Flagstaff Approves 141-Unit Canyon Del Rio Subdivision and $1.8M Affordable Housing Pinehaven Rezoning; Authorizes $2.3M Butler-Fourth Design Phase

Thank you. turned on. Shut up. All right, we are ready to get started. Today is Tuesday, August 26th, 2025. This is the city council's regular meeting agenda. I am calling it to order and giving notice to the city council and the general public that at this meeting uh we may vote to go into executive session which will not be open to the public for discussion and consultation with the city's attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda. Can we have a roll call?

Mayor Dagot here. Vice Mayor here. Council member Alen I'm present. Council member Garcia present. Council member House, I'm here. Council member Matthews here. Council member Spence here. He likes to make an entrance. Um, Council Member Matthews, would you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? Be my pleasure. Please stand if you're able. The mission of the city of Flagstaff is to protect and enhance the quality of life for all.

The Flagstaff City Council humbly acknowledges the ancestral homelands of this area's indigenous nations and original stewards. These lands still inhabited by native descendants border mountains sacred to indigenous peoples. We honor them, their legacies, their traditions, and their continued contributions. We celebrate their past, present, and future generations who will forever know this place as home. Thank you. Moving down to item 4A, we have consideration and approval of previous minutes.

Staff, good job getting all these minutes done um while council was on break. Uh council, do you have any questions or comments about any of the minutes? And if not, I'll entertain a motion. So moved. And a second. I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I Any opposed? Okay, moving down to open call to the public. This enables the public to address the council about an item that is not on the prepared agenda.

Comments relating to items that are on the agenda will be taken at the time that that agenda item is discussed. Open call to the public appears twice on the agenda, now and at the end. And um you have you have three minutes. There's a uh clock right here. And because whatever you're going to talk to us about is not on the agenda, we can't ask questions, answer questions. Um so I am going to call up our speakers. We have Rebecca Sers. Good afternoon everyone. Welcome back. I'm Rebecca Sers.

I'm your pros director. I wanted to share some great news that uh happened this summer and I have some colleagues here to join me in this celebration. We have Chief Gaylord, we have Chief Connelly, we have Heidi Hansen, we have several other directors in the room, but we would love to celebrate uh Shannon Anderson. Please bear with me for receiving she was the recipient of the May 25 Gabe Zimmerman Civic Leader Award.

And if you may, if it's okay, Mayor, I'd love to show her acceptance speech if that's okay. Um, as long as it's less than two minutes and 15 seconds. Working on it right now. And I have backup plans in place. Our 2025 civic leader is Shannon Anderson, senior deputy city manager for the city of Flagstaff.

Shannon plays a vital leadership role overseeing departments that direct impactly directly impact the daily lives of residents, police, fire, water services, parks, recreation, open space and events, and public works. Shannon has been part of the team Flagstaff since 2006. With a professional background in human resources, she brings a people centered approach to her work in the city manager's office, supporting staff, strengthening departments, and fostering a high-erforming collaborative team.

For Shannon, public service is a priv privilege. Her compassionate leadership and dedication make her a deserving recipient of the Civic Leader Award. Shannon. [Applause] Uh, thanks everyone. Uh, this is typically not a place where I tend to be. Uh, usually I'm often in the background trying to support those who are doing great work on behalf of our community.

want to thank the Center for Arizona Future as well as Ross Zimmerman for continuing to recognize the public service that this room and many other service professionals provide to Arizona and our community on a regular basis. I'm very honored to be nominated for the Gabe Zimmerman Public Service Award. I was certainly surprised when I received the information.

very thankful to Rebecca Sers, Chief Shan Connley, and Chief Mark Gaylord for the time they took to submit this information in recognition of the work that we do. I'm certainly privileged to be able to work with amazing professionals on a daily basis and I'm so thankful for that opportunity. Feel very fortunate and grateful each and every day. Thanks for everything you do on behalf of your community and our state to make us continue to be better each and every day. Thank you. Thank you.

Next up, we have Charlie Silver. Hello, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Council members. My name is Charlie Silver. I'm a 45-y year resident of Flagstaff. And I know you can't ask questions and we can't have a discussion here, but run this through your mind just now this question. What is unique about Flagstaff? Is it mountains, forest, climate? I'll answer for you. Well, lots of places have those things, right? Uh lots of mountain towns in the west. Uh lots of places with fantastic climate.

And our climate is pretty unique, especially in summer and when the um monsoon season decides to show itself. It's pretty fantastic. And of course, we have um uh forest surrounding Flagstaff. And lots of places have forests and trees, right? But you know what that is absolutely unique is our history, our historic built environment, and the stories that bring it to life.

I think we have all seen to one degree or another our historic and heritage resources being chipped away, especially in the downtown area east of this city hall. Flagstaff has already lost a lot and I want my city to do more to protect and preserve what's left. Flagstaff prides itself on being a tourist draw. So why undermine the very foundation of what makes Flagstaff unique? I think it is shortsighted, irresponsible, and not in the best interests of the residents and the city as a whole.

There is a concept of old town and new town. I want to see old town areas respected and cared for and the city should lead the way and exhibit this behavior by its actions. Thank you. Thank you, Charlie. Colleen Maring. Good afternoon, Mayor C, Vice Mayor, Council. Excited to be back. My name is Colleen Mering. I'm the chief people officer at Northern Arizona Healthcare. And thank you to several of you who were able to attend um our uh recent presentation about our new strategic plan.

If you weren't able to attend um and anybody or for anyone in the audience who wants to check it out, the plan is on our website naalth.com under about us. And our four strategic imperatives that we identified in that plan are first putting our people and community first. Second, advancing our path to clinical excellence. third, growing our reach, including through the construction of a new modern regional referral facility. And fourth, to achieve financial and organizational stability.

Um, what's really cool about this plan is that it was drafted uh after two years of listening to voices in the communities that we serve. In preparing to publish the plan, we actually went back and counted um and found that we had heard from more than 4,000 community members in the creation of this plan. um through forums and small groups and advisory councils, surveys, listening sessions. And as a result of that listening, the plan is focused on engaging with the communities that we serve.

Um being a partner in improving health and healing people. That remains our mission in our region and helping strengthen our community health infrastructure. Also recently published, one of the ways that we accomplish these goals is through our community health needs assessment and implementation plan. Um so that we do every three years and we've just published our most recent one.

Uh and our community health needs assessment is based on population level data, incident rates, incidents rates of disease in our community as well as input from healthcare and community um leaders. Uh and our new CHNA identified four specific areas of focus. First, access to care. Um meaning just our community members ability to get the care they need when they need it and locally. Um, second, preventative care and chronic disease management.

Third, behavioral health and substance use, and fourth, drivers of health and well-being. So, ultimately, both of these plans focus Northern Arizona Healthcare on on doing the work our community partners um with our community partners to help uh folks access timely care, mental health care, and support without having to leave the region whenever possible. And both plans help us focus on supporting a path to a healthier community um in Flagstaff and Northern Arizona.

Um so again, both of those uh plans are up on our website, northern uh I'm sorry, nahalth.com under about us. Um and we'll also post progress um towards achieving those goals as we move forward. Thank you. Thank you, Colleen. All right. As we move into um the regular part of our agenda, I um just want to take a moment and recognize that the city of Flag Staff um both the organization and the community lost a um a true servant to the community um in Captain Paul Sanders.

And I know that there are many of us who are grieving this loss. And I just wanted to ask us all to please take a um moment of silence and um remember Captain Sanders. Thank you. All right, we're moving down to proclamations and recognitions. We have a proclamation for Smart Week and we have volunteers with Mom's Demand Action um here to join us. So, if you'd come and join us on the deis and council, I'll see you down there.

So after After I read the proclamation, we'll take a photo and then um whoever would like to speak on behalf of the organization can come and share a few words. Whereas guns are the number one killer of children and teens in the United States, the city of Flagstaff is committed to creating a safe environment um contributing to the safety and well-being of our children.

Almost every single day, a child gets their hands on a gun and unintentionally kills or wounds themselves or someone else in the United States. Research shows that the most effective way to prevent children from um accessing firearms is by making sure all guns are stored unloaded, locked, and separate from ammunition. There are steps we can all take, gun owners and non-gun gun owner own.

I haven't read in public in um two months and non gun owners alike to make sure children can't access guns and put themselves and others in danger. More than half of gun owners don't lock all of their guns securely. And an estimated 4.6 6 million children live in a home with at least one unlocked and loaded gun in the United States. When guns aren't properly stored, tragedy can strike.

Whether it's a child finding a firearm and wounding or killing themselves or someone else or someone stealing it and using it to commit crimes in our communities, schools, hospitals, state agencies, and community organizations are committed to their crucial role in reducing injuries and deaths by promoting secure gun storage and safety. Smart Week raises awareness and promotes efforts to educate the public about secure gun storage.

The city of Flagstaff commends Be Smart, a program developed by the Every Town Every Town for Gun Safety Support Fund and all involved in their endeavor to keep communities safe. Now therefore, I, Mayor Becky Daget, Mayor of the City of Flagstaff, Arizona, do hereby proclaim August 25th through 29th, 2025 as Smart Week. [Applause] All right. Thank you so much, Mayor Dagetan and City Council for this important proclamation and for having us here today.

As she said, every year nearly 360 children under 18 gain access to a gun and unintentionally shoot themselves or someone else, sometimes fatally, and more than 700 children die by suicide by gun every year. That's why keeping guns safe and secured is so important. The BS smart program is a way to make a difference and save lives by building awareness of how crucial proper gun storage is. Our goal is to keep our kids, families, and communities safe.

With back to school season upon us, we as adults have some homework. The most helpful thing that adults, gun owners, and non-gun owners alike can do to keep classrooms and communities safe from gun violence this year is to promote secure storage. It is always the adults responsibility to prevent unauthorized access to guns, not a curious child's responsibility to avoid guns.

The SMART campaign encourages people to secure all firearms in their homes and vehicles, model responsible behavior around firearms, ask about the presence of unsecured firearms in other homes, recognize the role of firearms in suicide, and tell others about be smart. A hidden gun is not a secure gun. Securely storing guns means keeping them unloaded, locked up, and stored separately from ammunition.

We need to normalize the conversations about gun safety and spread the BS smart message far and wide. Smart week is a communitywide effort. Change happens every day through meaningful conversation with our friends, our family, our neighbors, and our community leaders. I would like to just take a minute to recognize those in our Flagstaff community that have already partnered with us to help us spread this important BS smart message.

We're thankful to FUSD, the Cookanino County Health and Human Services, Mountain View Pediatrics, the Flagstaff Police Department, and several others. We're always looking for more partnerships. If you work with families, you can help. Reach out to us. We have left some printed materials in the back. We encourage any of you to take those resources for yourselves or to display in your own spheres of influence. Thank you.

[Applause] Now for our viewing entertainment, I believe that we have a video. Hello, Flagstaff. I'm Mayor Dagot and this is Police Chief Connelly. Today we want to talk to you about every one of us. Safe gun storage. Every year, too many tragedies occur because firearms are not stored safely. Whether it's a child finding an unsecured gun, a teenager in crisis, or a stolen weapon used in a crime, these incidents are preventable.

76% of school shooters under 18 acquired their gun from home or from relatives. 4.6 million children live in homes in America with at least one loaded, unlocked firearm. The key is proper storage. Proper storage can reduce the risk of youth suicide by up to 85%. That's why we're launching the safe guns, safe homes and cars campaign. Our goal is simple, to ensure every firearm in Flagstaff is stored securely, out of reach of those who shouldn't have access.

Secure storage means a lot of things, but it means keeping your guns unloaded, locked, and separate from ammunition. It's not just about preventing accidents. It's about protecting our children, our families, and our community that we love. We're partnering with local organizations to provide free gun locks and educational materials. You can pick up a free gun lock at the Cookanino County Health Building on King Street. No questions asked.

And if you need help or have questions about safe storage, we're here for you. Visit the BS Smart website for resources and support. Together, we can make Flagstaff a safer place for everyone. Secure your firearms. Protect your loved ones. [Applause] Okay. Thank you, um, Chief Connelly and, um, and, uh, the police department for taking this issue seriously. and um doing the video. We um greatly appreciate it. Okay, we're moving down now to July and August work anniversaries.

Thank you, Mayor Daget. council Shannon Anderson uh here to share uh the last two months um with everyone so we can um gosh certainly I'm forgetting where we start. Here we go. Um so these are the July work anniversaries that we'll start uh two separate presentations so that way it's very easy to know who we're recognizing for the month of July and then the month of August. Um oops.

So for our first year anniversaries um we've got folks from management services as well as pros, water services, the fire department, um community development. Uh so, a lot of folks that are celebrating their first year with us um here this last July. Uh then we have a 10-year uh work anniversary. Hans Walsh, one of our police officers. Also, Matthew Thompson, who's one of our sergeants, uh is celebrating his 15th work anniversary. Um, and then Justina Costa. Um, she can't be here with us today.

Um, but she is our assistant housing director. And I don't know about you all, but that picture of the boxer is just so cute. Um, but I am a boxer lover, so that could just be me. Um, but again, Justina started with the city uh Flagstaff 20 years ago. Uh, she actually started in human resources. Um a little tidbit, uh Justina was the person that called me when there was an opening in human resources to let me know that I should apply. Um so very thankful for um her doing that.

She started as a recruitment specialist um and after her first year uh she was lured over by Sarah Dar uh the housing director over to housing uh where she has built her career as a housing practitioner and a leader for our community. She serves as the assistant housing director and is consistently demonstrating unwavering commitment and expertise in her field.

Her certification as a certified public manager from Arizona State University underscores her dedication to excellence in public service. While her practical experience has been honed in on her housing management and administrative skills, her leadership and insight have been instrumental in shaping housing policies and programs to meet our community's diverse needs.

While her passion for creating sustainable and inclusive housing solutions reflect the deep-seated commitment to fostering equitable living conditions for all of our residents. She's known for her team-based nature and her nononsense problem solving. She works well with others internally and the community has never been known to run with scissors. So, that's a good thing. Uh kudos to Justina for her commitment to the city of Flagstaff and our Flagstaff community.

[Applause] Next, we have Kathy Gucha. I believe she is online with us today. Um she works for our pros division. Uh she's currently an administrative specialist there. Uh she's been a core component of the parks and recreation team since 2005. She supported the team through many changes and challenges. She was instrumental each week in completing complicated payroll and cash deposit processes for which the pros team will never will forever be grateful. Excuse me.

Uh she was instrumental in the process to implement a new recreation software program when the aquaplex opened and she assisted with a major overhaul of that system in 2018. She's an integral part of the pros team and we thank her for her 20 years of dedicated service. Kathy, would you like to pop on and say a few words? Hi, thank you. I'm honored and thankful to be recognized for my 20 years of service and appreciate the support shown to me by Rebecca and the wonderful people I work with.

It has been invaluable to me. again. Thank you. Congratulations, Kathy. [Applause] So, that finishes our month of July. If you'll give me a moment, I will pull up our August celebration. All right, here we go. So for August, um again we have a fairly large group of folks celebrating their first year with us. Um our police department, uh economic vitality, um some from pros, water sustainability um also public works, management services.

So a really good mix of employees here celebrating their first year. Moving on to our fifth year work anniversaries, Bryce Dodie. I know you all probably recognize him. He's here often talking about um the dealings of real estate within our community. So, congratulations to Bryce. Uh we also have Maria who's one of our police training coordinators over at the police department. Does a fabulous job of coordinating all the training that our officers uh take on an annual basis.

We also have Charles celebrating. He's one of our equipment operators. And then moving into 10 years, we have Tara McCarron. Uh she works for Pros as one of their recreation leaders. 15 years, we have Dan White, who is also a Pros employee as a parks technician. And then we have quite a few celebrating their 20th work anniversary this month. We're going to kick it off with Christina Barnett. Uh she is one of our fire inspectors.

Um she has proudly served the Flagstaff community for over 20 years. Uh she became uh a member of the fuels crew first which oftentimes they were temporary employees and that's why we're celebrating 20 years but she's been here a little longer than that um working to reduce wildfire risk around the city and has since dedicated two decades to the Flagstaff Fire Department.

Throughout her tenure, Christina has held several key roles within our fire department, including firefighter, engineer, and now fire inspector. In her current position, she's responsible for conducting plan reviews of the fire protection systems, performing performing acceptance testing, and carrying out routine inspections of commercial buildings, all to help ensure the safety of our residents and our visitors.

Outside of work, Christina enjoys spending time with her family and pursuing outdoor adventures such as skiing, mountain biking, surfing, and traveling. I am not seeing Christina in our audience, so we'll say congratulations to Christina. [Applause] Matthew How is of fire engineers. Um, also celebrating 20 years. Um, I know he's unable to join us today, but I'd love to tell you a little bit about him.

Uh, he's a shining example of what makes the Flagstaff Fire Department such a great place to work. He brings an infectious, positive energy with him on a daily basis. He was promoted to the rank of engineer in 2009 and promptly took over the small tools program for the department. This program covers all of the hand tools along with the engineers fittings that we carry on all of our structure and wildland engines.

As you can imagine, these are items that are used every day in all types of emergency situations. Matt started assisting with the driving portion of the engineers promotional test 12 years ago and is still very active in that role. Three years ago, Matt became a technical rescue technician and followed that up by becoming a hazardous materials technician as well. So, he is definitely a part of our Flagstaff Fire Department special operations team.

He's been married to his wife Sarah for the last 13 years and have three children, ages seven, nine, and 11. Matt was born and raised in Flagstaff and loves giving back to his community that helped mold him into the man he is today. So, congratulations to Matt. [Applause] Um, our next 20 year work anniversary is Jolene Mononttoya. Um, I know that she is also not with us.

She had an appointment during the same time, but she serves as a section director within our water services division and she oversees regulatory compliance. In her 20 years with the city, Jolene has worked her way up through the ranks by consistently going above and beyond. As the head of that compliance section, she demonstrates understanding and kindness while ensuring that rules are followed. Here is what her team members had to say. If you have a question, Jolene's the gal with your answer.

She's a tremendous resource. She also takes the time to get to know everyone. She works with not just what their job is, but who they are and what they're into. She remembers everything, which is a great asset with as much as this department does on a regular basis. And she is a great baker. So that's a little bit about Jolene. Congratulations, Jolene, on your 20 years. We've got a few more. Uh Robert Oberly uh is one of our fire captains.

Uh we want to congratulate him on his 20 years of dedicated service to the Flagstaff Fire Department and our Flagstaff community. He's progressed through the ranks of firefighter and engineer throughout those years. And besides being a captain on the department, he's also a certified hazmat technician, a technical rescue specialist, and certified as a fire investigator. Certainly one of our valuable employees for the organization. So, thanks to Robert.

[Applause] Uh Matt Meyers uh is one of our fire captains who is also a certified paramedic. Um he is unable to join us today, but he's been serving our community for the last 20 years and has spent his entire career on training crews. A few years back, he started the House of Jacks program, which has become a great source of pride and tradition within the department and the fire service in general.

He's taught in the academy, mentored countless young firefighters, and continues to share his experience to help others be successful. He's known for always putting his crew first. Captain SM focuses on their training, safety, and growth while showing pride in both the department and the community he serves. He makes a lasting impact on everyone who works with him. Congratulations to Mr. Snyers. [Applause] Now, we have Ryan Watkins. He is one of our fire engineers.

Um, again, 20 years of service at the Flagstaff Fire Department. In addition to being an engineer, he's a certified fire investigator. He's also part of our fleet program where he helps keep the apparatus maintained and coordinates repairs with our city fleet services shop. So, congratulations to Ryan. [Applause] Now we have Terry. She is one of our library clerks. So she is part of our economic vitality division.

Um she's been with the city for 25 plus years as an integral part of the circulation department at the downtown library. Originally joining the city from the world of retail. Fun fact, for longtime Flagstaff residents, Terry used to work for Dusty's Shoes and Things that was located in our Flagstaff Mall, if you might remember it. Her excellent customer service skills have always been a huge benefit, especially when working with someone who might be confused, upset, or even angry.

In addition to her stellar work at the downtown library during the mid 2000s, she regularly took shifts at our East Flagstaff Community Library off of Fourth Street to help during a time of massive growth and chronic staffing shortages to help at that location. In the past years, Terry has seen multiple technology changes, including several ILS migrations and implementation of our RFID technology. She's always been adept at staying up to-date with this evolution.

She's one of the first people you'll see when entering the downtown library and has helped countless patrons get library cards, check out materials, and get answers to their questions. I'm unsure. Is Terry not sure that Terry's here today? No. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Um, so congratulations to Terry on her 25 years. [Applause] Uh, we have Sergeant Melissa C. Um, she was hired by our Flagstaff Police Department in 2000.

Uh she started in the records division and her father Dale Young was serving as a detective at this time. In 2002 she promoted to police officer and attended the Arizona Law Enforcement Academy in Phoenix. She served many years in patrol division working on multiple squads. served as a detective in criminal investigations from 2007 to 2009, specializing in work with child crime and domestic violence victims.

She returned to the patrol division for several more years when she was promoted to patrol corporal in 2016. She supervised the selective enforcement squad and was transferred back into the criminal investigations division as a detective for a second rotation. She was the voice for many victims of crime. In 2023, she was promoted to the rank of sergeant where she was a patrol supervisor.

And in 2024, she was assigned to be the class sergeant for the High Country Training Academy where she mentors and trains new police recruits from all over Arizona. She's received numerous awards and accommodations while serving at the department for the past 25 years. Most notably, she was selected as the victim witness officer of the year, and she was also awarded the Medal of Courage for her bravery with an armed suspect.

She's received numerous life-saving awards and meritorious service awards. I know Melissa is online, so I'd like to pause for a moment um if she'd like to say a few words. Thank you, Shannon. And I would just like to thank the city of Flagstaff and the Flagstaff Police Department for allowing me to live and serve in such a great community. So, thank you. Congratulations, Melissa. [Applause] And then I believe uh Judge uh China is here in the room with us.

If you want to come on up, I'll tell you a little about him while he's coming up. Um Judge China is our presiding magistrate for the municipal court. um celebrating 35 years of service with the city of Flagstaff. 29 of those years were dedicated to the municipal court. He was appointed to magistrate in March of 1996 and served the municipal court with distinction, guiding the court through nearly three decades of change and growth.

Since becoming presiding magistrate in August of 2002, he's led the court with a steadfast commitment to the fairness, professionalism, and public trust. During his tenure, the court established its mental health court and veterans court. His leadership has helped shape a court that is efficient, accessible, and responsive to the needs of the community.

Before joining the bench, Tom began his legal career as a law clerk to two superior court trial judges and a vice chief justice of the Arizona Supreme Court. He subsequently entered private practice before relocating to Flagstaff in 1990 where he served as an assistant city attorney and later as chief prosecutor. Judge Shotina is deeply grateful for the opportunity to serve the residents of Flagstaff and for the support of the city council, legal community, and the dedicated court colleagues.

He remains proud to serve in a facility that reflects the city's investment in justice and values the community. So, I'd love to turn it over to Judge Sautina. Thank you, Shannon. uh mayor and council. I just wanted to make an appearance and express my appreciation for the support from the city of Flagstaff over these many years. Want to thank the C council for my latest appointment as a presiding magistrate. It's an honor and privilege certainly to serve as a judge.

I greatly appreciate that and I just wanted to express my thankfulness to uh the city and I'm proud to be a member and work with the city's workforce. Thank you. [Applause] That is the end of our August anniversaries. Thank you for your time today and we'll be back in September to celebrate again. Thank you and congratulations to everyone. I see a lot of um long-term firefighters on our list, so that's great to see. All right.

So, we are moving down to item eight, council liaison reports, and I will start with council member Matthews. I have nothing today. Thank you, Mayor. Council member Garcia. Thank you, Madame Mayor. I'll start off with the parks and recck section.

playground equipment was at the top of the list and um along with the continued annual program of updating outdated equipment in on the recreation side we see uh HVAC installments of um at held Jensen Recreation Center and one second pull this back All right, I'll start over. Um, we started with Bushmaster Park Sports Courts updates. The construction and redevelopment of sports courts is nearing completion and ahead of schedule.

There was discussion about the fair brought to us by council member Spence regarding the sound mitigation for the surrounding neighborhood which was met with interest um from the from the commission. Strategic planning, prioritization and funding of existing projects has been the main topic of discussion. Uh the commission has agreed that so much has changed over time that it is important to re-evaluate what comes first in the future.

Um the in the uh recreation section, HVAC improvements at Hell Jensen Recreation Center and the affforementioned sports courts at Bushmaster Park, the development of Highland Mesa Park, Heritage Square restroom remodel and Ponderosa Park redevelopment and Continental Park expansion are all on the table for discussion for rep prioritization. the overall summertime feel for the commission is eager to get more work done and satisfied with the work that they have gotten done so far.

A huge shout out to Amy Hagen and of course her staff for pushing so many projects through. This is a great committee to be a liaison to because there is so much um involved with it and I'll be having my library committee me meeting um this week. So I'll be bringing that to the next council meeting. Thank you, Council Member Alen. Madame Mayor, all my uh council liaison appointments uh are occurring later this week, Thursday and Friday. And vice mayor, thank you. I have a couple of updates.

Um over break, I was nominated as the vice chair of Nikk. So serving in that role Thursday will be my first meeting. I'm excited to be part of it. Um, Metrop Plan has been doing a lot with grants and um, 2025 we were awarded over a little over $34 million for projects in the region. Um, so great job with Metro Plan. Mountain Line has our meeting tomorrow 10 to 12 at the new DCC. It will be our first meeting at the new DCC center. So, I'm excited. Bpack.

I don't know if you all go to Buffalo Park, but the water tank has a fresh coat of paint, and I'm excited to see what mural will be up there. And um that's a big deal for BPAC. And then water. Um last week I attended the water commission online and there was a great presentation and discussion on reclaimed water with the focus of the use of reclaimed water and our golf courses in Flagstaff. Thank you, Council Member House. Thank you, Mayor. Nothing for me today. Council member Spence.

Thank you, Mayor. Uh during our council break, I have continued to attend um the open space commission and the transportation commission, which as many of you know has two committees, the bicycle committee and the pedestrian committee. Um, these commissions uh remain active in uh assessing what our community needs, but I have u nothing to bring before the council at this time. Thank you. The commission on inclusion and adaptive living has a meeting tomorrow from 11 to 1.

Um so I will be attending that. Moving down to appointments, we are going to start on a consideration of appointments for the beautifification and public art commission BPAC. And council member house, this is your um appointment. Yes, it is. Thank you, mayor. Um I just want to thank all the applicants who uh have applied for this commission. There were some great names listed and folks that have been involved in various aspects of uh Flagstaff's art culture in in a number of different ways.

I am happy to nominate uh Meredith Curley to the seat on the uh BPAC. And do we have a second? Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Wonderful. Next, we have airport commission. The first to make an appointment is council member Spence. Thank you, Mayor. Um, I too would like to thank all of the comm uh the community members that have um submitted their applications to serve on the airport commission.

Um, we have a number of people in our community that want to see the airport thrive and services for aviation to be improved. I would like to um appoint Thomas Wadell who is the current chairman serving his first term on the airport commission and I recommend him for reappointment for another three-year term. Thank you. Thank you. Uh any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Next is me. And um yeah, this was amazing. We had nine applicants for three positions.

So that's wonderful. Thank you to everyone who applied. I would like to uh nominate Robert Hanovich who is a current commissioner. Um I'd like to reappoint him for another term. I'll second that motion. Any discussion? All those in favor? I I. Any opposed? I. All right. And next we have Council Member House again. Thank you, Mayor. Um, yes, very tough call with a lot of strong applicants for this commission.

It's great to see a lot of people interested in serving the community, I'd like to nominate Chris Spelky, and I apologize if I'm mispronouncing that last name. Uh, but to round out the appointments for the airport commission, I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Next up, we have the personnel board and we have an appointment by Council Member Alen. Yes. I'd like to go ahead and reappoint Cynthia Chilcote uh to the available term. Is there a second?

I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I I I. Any opposed? All right. and Council Member Matthews. Thank you, Mayor. I I'd like to nominate Kenyan Lemon to the personnel board. Is there a second? I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. So, next up we have uh liquor license public hearings and we have I'm going to open the public hearing and we're going to have a staff presentation. I was just looking on how many presentations we have. We have two.

Um so, good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Adriana Stasky, deputy city clerk. Before you today are two liquor license applications. The full packet materials included in the agenda for conciseness and motioning. I'll provide the information for both licensings together. Um Flagstaff Mountain Market um for a series 7 Beer and Wine located at 1508 East Route 66. The agent and the manager handling the day-to-day operations um is Rhonda Renee Stump.

The second is Mother Road Brewing Company uh series 1 for an instate producer located at 1300 East Butler Avenue, sweet 200. The agent is Michael Walter Maris and the managers handling the day-to-day operations are Charles Dylan Prader and Peter Atwood Krueger. The police department and community development have conducted their respective investigations.

The reports are included in the agenda packet and there are representatives from the divisions here to answer any questions you may have and representatives from the business have also been invited to attend the hearing today. Thank you council. Do you have any questions? Mayor, I'd like to hold up hold your horses there. Um, is there any public comment? Okay. So, I am going to close the public hearing and then Council Member Garcia, did you have a motion that you would like to make?

Yes, Madame Mayor. Thank you. I'd like to forward the application to the state with the recommendation for approval. And was that on both or one? the applications Thank you. Is there a second? I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I I. Any opposed? Okay. Congratulations. All right. We're moving down to item 11. This is the consent agenda, and it's been requested that item 11 C be removed from the consent agenda. And this item will come back at a future meeting.

So I need a um well, first I need to ask, are there any other items that you would like to pull from um consent? All right. I'd like to pull uh item H from the consent agenda and I can make a motion for the other ones to approve if you'd like. Okay. So let's pull H. Um and You know, it's been two months. Do I need um do we need to vote on removing on polling H? Thank you. It's it's like I've never done this before. Okay. So, yes.

Then I will entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda except for items 11 C and H. So moved. Do we have a second? I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Okay. And uh council member, would you like to share with us why you wanted to um discuss this item? Um yeah, I think it's a a crucial and impactful item to at least share sometime in the uh public domain.

And I also had a question about um how the uh program gets put into effect if there is staff members here to answer those questions. So, I guess my main question is um what is the apparatus you guys use to let all of your employees know that the program is in place if I'm understanding the program correctly as I read it?

And um also is there so that that's as a preventative measure, but is there also some reinforcing measures when there's like a critical event that happens where these services could be more used where they're um where they're uh where you guys step in and how does that look with respect to uh the contract and the provider? And I I'll just uh have uh Deputy Chief Fennel, he can talk a little bit more about this.

And um Chief Fennel put this program in place for the surrounding fire districts uh in our region and it's a innovative program. For years fire departments took better care of their fire trucks than they did their members. And so for us uh we extended that protection to their their physical well-being, but we didn't have u we didn't have those tools and that support for mental and behavioral health. And so I'm so excited.

I'm so grateful to the council uh for placing that into um our toolbox to support our folks. Um I would just say that uh this morning because of the crisis within the fire department redemption led uh a critical incident stress meeting with our team the entire shift. That's what they do for the critical incident stress piece. of importance to me is much like uh the emphasis we place on an annual physical to make sure that our folks are fit for duty.

Um we now have annual mental health and behavioral health checkups. And so we're now not only providing those services um with respect to emergency and crisis uh we're providing uh services for the maintenance of our individual's health. I'm super excited about that. I've been involved with the program for about three years and the ability to sit down with someone and and we assess our folks much like a physical examination.

And so we're able to catch trends and try to catch things early and provide continued support. Uh the program comes with education. One of the things that's really important is uh mental health professionals are um in short supply in our community. What that contract has done, it has provided access and so we're able to uh quickly get our folks into services if they need it. Uh in previous our previous experiences, um you know, we'll get you in a couple weeks. We can see you then.

That's not good enough. And so we're very pleased with uh the work that uh has gone on. I'm so grateful to Chief Fennel, Chief Conny's leadership as well, kind of bringing this forward for our team. And then, Chief, you have anything you'd like to add to that? No, I think that pretty much sums it up and it's been uh used already by both fire and police. So, um it's really good to have that option available for our staff and we uh look forward to it.

As Chief Gaylord said, we've had that in the fire district surrounding Flagstaff. Um they're about five years into it now. It's saved marriages. It's saved jobs. Um, in one case, it saved a life. So, the program has shown a lot of effectiveness so far. And we're so glad that their support to bring that here to the city as well. So, thank you. Thank you guys for shining a highlight on that uh on that for me and for the community.

It means a lot to me when we can keep the people that keep us safe uh safe as well. So when this came across um our packet, I wanted to just let the public record reflect that u we are taking care of those who are taking care of us on on multiple levels. And I thank you guys for bringing this forward and I hope to support it as we go on with that. Mayor, do I need to make a motion to pass this? Yes. And oh, excuse me. Sorry. Yes, Council Member House, I'm sorry. I did see your C in the chat.

Thank you, mayor. Uh, thank you, chiefs, for the information. Um, I had a couple of questions initially, but you uh both answered them uh and and covered all of them in what you just shared. So, I'll just uh move to the comment which is just uh thanks to you all for prioritizing the mental health and well-being of our um police and fire teams and our public safety officers.

Um, I think it's it's such an important move um for our community and part of uh the work that I know um we've been doing in terms of traumainformed uh employment and uh mindfulness of the importance of mental health and behavioral health for um our entire community and particularly for those who are out there protecting us every day.

Um it's just a a real um uh honor to be part of a council that can support um this type of work and I just want to express deep gratitude to all of you for having that foresight and wisdom to prioritize this for our teams. So thank you all very much. Did you have anything to add? So, yes, I will entertain a motion now. I'd like to move that we approve um agenda item 11H on the consent agenda. I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Thank you.

Moving down to routine items 12A, consideration and approval of preliminary plat. Good afternoon, council. My name is Ben M. I'm a planner with the city of Flagstaff Planning and Development Services. For your consideration today, we have a preliminary plat request for Canyon Del Rio, the Highlands. That's uh parcel R1 of the Canyon Del Rio uh block plat.

This request was filed by EPS group on behalf of CDR DevC Corp uh Ltd uh and requested a single family home subdivision consisting of 141 lots uh on 27.07 acres in the medium density residential zone within the resource protection overlay using planned residential development standards. That was long. Um the uh IDS staff uh approved the preliminary plat on May 29th uh 2025.

Uh this went to planning and zoning commission on June 25th and received uh a recommendation of approval unanimously with 70 vote. To give a little context for the site, uh the parcels of the southwest intersection of Wetstone and Fourth Street. Uh to the north is Kenyan Del Rio block N in the MR zone. To the east is a vacant uh R&D parcel, research and development parcel and a vacant uh RR zoned parcel as well.

uh as well as have a strip here and wrapping around south and west is uh what's known as Kenya del Rio phase 2 or track Z of the original block plot and that's in the AMR zone and here this kind of peanut shaped uh is is block and P. Just a little refresher on Canyon Del Rio.

In June of of 2019, city council approved a resoning request development agreement and preliminary block plot allowing the development of Canyon Del Rio, a 261 acre site consisting of uh 1,426 residential dwelling units uh using a variety of of housing types as well as uh 225,000 square feet of commercial development. Taking a look at the the plat itself. Uh access is provided from Wetstone and the future John Wesley Powell Boulevard as it extends to connect to Fourth Street.

Um as I previously stated, this is 141 uh attached and detached single family lots. It provides 8.67 acres of common space or 32 uh 32% of the gross lot area which exceeds the 15% uh required in code. Uh there is a foots connection. You can't really see it here, but off of this culde-sac, you can see my mouse. Um that provides access to the the main uh foots trail that runs north and south through Canyon del Rio. And uh you'll see that the three colors here.

This is a phase uh is proposed to be developed in three phases. Uh so phase one will utilize the existing access from wet stone and at the time of phase two, it's it's anticipated that John Wesley Powell will already be in place for them to provide that additional connection there. Just as a a reminder, limitations on short-term rentals are not a part of staff review for subdivisions. This is in the resource protection overlay.

So, natural resource protection plan was required uh and reviewed uh for forest resources. The requirement for preservation is 47.5% for forest uh resources and the applicant provided uh 54.5% in this proposal. uh Kenya del Rio development agreement allows for banking of resources so that those resources can be um kind of preserved in in some blocks where where a deficit might be created and in this case there is a bit of a additional so so deposit in that uh bank account there.

So moving on into the slope uh natural resource protection plan uh with the exception of 25 to 34.99% slope category where there is a a small withdrawal from the bank uh the other two slope categories are being met and and or exceeded. So zoning code standards for the for PRD or planned residential development in the MR zone. Uh the density for this project is gross 5.2 units per acre and net 5.7 units per acre.

The MR uh zone has a range of 6 to nine units per acre within the resource protection overlay and outside of an activity center or pedestrian shed. The DA does allow for minor transfers of density between residential blocks and establishes a minimum density of all R blocks. There's R one through five in the original uh concept block platting of the the site. U has a minimum density of 367 units. That unit count is being tracked as as development continues in Kenya del Rio.

Uh lot design and resource protection resources are primarily uh preserved outside of lots. So they're in in the common space in this in this development. As for lot sizes, PRD standards allow for greater flexibility in lot size and dimensions uh which includes a minimum lot area of 2,000 square feet. This application shows a range of 2,000 square foot to square foot uh lots.

And the lot dimension for the proposal varies between 25 to to 80 um foot size uh lots and 40 40 by 80 uh lots of the larger size lots. Those are the typical dimensions and that meets the the minimum lot uh width of 20 feet and depth of of 50 feet and applies the setback standards for the PRD which is a a front setback of 5T 20 ft for parking a side setback of three feet and a rear setback of three feet as well.

So this is a PRD of planned residential development and uh code does require the selection of of design elements and the applicant has selected the following um at least or uh design element K at least 50% of the required resources are maintained within common space areas and we'll go back to the the resource protection plan so you can see that if you'd like uh but that is a design element that has been demonstrated in that natural resource protection plan design element N.

Uh the subdivision CCNRs and setback standards do not prohibit the development of accessory dwelling units. Uh staff will review the CCNRs at final plat to ensure conformance with that. Design element Q subdivision includes enhanced pedestrian environments including outdoor seating areas or larger landscaping areas and there's one point for each for that. Uh this proposal includes six outdoor seating areas throughout the subdivision, two in each phase of the development.

So those initial two uh are counted towards this this criteria. So it's uh two points for for outdoor seating areas. proposal uh meets engineering standards. A public systems analysis was conducted to confirm preliminary compliance with engineering standards. Compliance uh will be confirmed with civil engineering plans which is the next uh step after preliminary plan for access and traffic. A TIA was completed in conjunction with the resoning that included this site.

So no further study was required and Since the original TIA was conducted, John Wesley Powell has been proposed to extend across the southern boundary of this parcel. So, a lot of the the impacts of that will be or has been studied as part of the uh review of Kenyan Del Rio uh phase two. So, the the rest of Kenya do Rio's study and not particular to this this uh development of this lot or parcel uh for water and wastewater.

New 8 inch water and sewer lines will be provided through the new streets serving the subdivision on each lot. Um and for storm water, the proposal uses four detention basins. Uh two extended detention basins are located offsite to the east. extension extended detention basin located to the south as well as a a connection to a proposed regional detention to the southwest of the site that is part of uh the phase 2 development of of Canyon Del Rio.

The proposal meets subdivision and landsplit regulations. Uh it meets preliminary plat procedures and application requirements as well as the minimum required subdivision improvements which were identified in the public systems analyses on the previous slides. The subdivision standards and regulations for lot street easement and block design were were reviewed and found in conformance.

And with that uh the required findings is the city council shall find the preliminary plat meets the requirements of city code title 10 black flagstaff zoning code, city code title 11 general plans and subdivisions and city code title 13 engineering design standards and specifications. Staff recommends the city council approve the preliminary plan in accordance with the findings presented in this report and the planning and zoning commission recommendation. Thank you. Thank you.

We have a question from council member house. Thank you, mayor. Thank you so much for the presentation. Um just really quickly uh and I don't know that it necessarily applies to the the findings here, but I just noted in the staff summary for this item.

Um it it mentioned um the connection to the 10-year housing plan and uh encouraging diversity of housing options in all neighborhoods, understanding that exclusive communities are incompatible with the city of Flagstaff's mission to protect and enhance the quality of life for all.

And you talked a little bit in your presentation about the um the range of lot sizes here, but is this all uh standard single family development or is there actually a more diversity of of floor plans or um develop models in this uh in this area? Uh I I would direct that question to the applicant regarding uh the construction plans for the for the uh subdivision. At this time, floor plans aren't being evaluated for the subdivision. It's just the creation of the lots. The applicant is here.

If you'd like to direct that question to them, I would if they're willing to come up and see her on her way and address that. Good evening, council. Charity Lee with Capstone Homes. Um, thank you for your question. Uh, as uh, Ben Mahia had pointed out in his presentation, the development has a range of different lot sizes. So, we have 24 by 75 foot lots as well as 40 by 80. So, that will provide the um, ability to have the diversity in housing. So, we'll have a variety of different town homes.

Um, we'll have similar town homes to the Canyon Del Rio uh N subdivision that came to you recently for preliminary plat. And so we're calling those kind of tall, skinnier uh town homes range of of uh square footages from around 1,200 up to 1,800 2,000 square feet. And then our 40 to um uh our larger lots are those will be uh floor plans that will range from somewhere probably around 1,600 up to 2400 square feet.

So there will be a range of different price range ranges available for for um home buyers. All right. Thank you very much, Charity. Appreciate it. And Charity, before you sit down, can I insert a question here? Sure. Is there an HOA with this development there? There is. Yes, there will be CCNRs. And um do you know yet whether there will be a prohibition on short-term rentals? Uh there will not be a prohibition.

We are looking at different restrictions to impose on short-term rentals that might include parking restrictions and registration uh with the HOA. So, we're still exploring that, but we're not going to prohibit short-term rentals. Okay. Thank you. Um, Council Member House, was that it? Yes, it was. Thank you, Mayor. Council member Garcia. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, excellent presentation, Ben. You guys did a great job as always with all the staff report. I really enjoyed reading it all.

This question is more on me than it is on you. Uh because I I just can't hear all the time perfectly. So you said something something STRs. What what did you say? Something staff can't or can something something short-term rentals. Oh, short-term rentals. Yeah. So it's not a part of our review of a subdivision. Short-term rentals. Uh so limitations on short-term rentals are not a part of staff review for subdivisions is what we said. Thank you for that clarity. Council member Spence.

Thank you, Mayor. Um, I have a question with regard to the traffic impact from this uh subdivision at 141 um dwelling units. Um, is there a projected impact onto looks like from your map that there are two uh places where people would exit this subdivision onto John Wesley Powell. Is that correct? Wetstone and then directly onto John Wesley Powell. So, so there's the direct connection to John Wesley Powell proposed here if you can see it on the screen there.

Uh, and then it would be the the connection from Wetstone. Wetstone connects to to existing Fourth Street currently. So, I realize John Wesley Powell is still in the design phase, but is it projected that there will need to be a traffic light or a roundabout or some other traffic control mechanism uh from these 141 homes exiting onto John Wesley Powell? or is that just going to be a stop sign and they wait for traffic to clear on JWP before they enter John Wesley Pow Boulevard.

It's an excellent question, council member. I have Steph Santana with traffic to be able to give you some Good evening, council. My name is Stephanie Santana. I'm a transportation engineer here at the city of Flagstaff. Um, so the TI for this was actually approved back in 2017. This R1 is part of phase one. So it was approved back then with that TIA. So I believe you're talking about the intersection onto JWP and the intersection on to Wetstone. Those will be both stop controlled intersections.

So stop signs for people that want to get on to to get out of the subdivision. That is correct. And is is that acceptable? I I'm I'm I'm trying to think of how many people uh would be queuing to uh exit the subdivision. Is this a pretty standard uh uh having a stop sign? Is that pretty standard for a subdivision of this size? Yes, it is. I'm about 99% sure it would not meet for any signal warrant. Um, it was not completed here for this TIA.

Um, but the volumes for this project are projected to be quite low, so I'm about 99% sure it would not meet. Thank you. Thank you, council. Any additional questions? All right, I'm going to take public comment. We have Andy Fernandez. Andy Fernandez. Uh, a lot of people here in the last, uh, 35 years, they know me as, uh, the native son of Flagstaff, native son of Arizona. Also, they know me as a candidate for mayor.

I initiated the for street overpass in 1995 and then I came back to in 1997 and initiated the scenario on a referendum that was manipulated by corruption and nepotism and you can go on my timeline. You can see that on my Facebook account. But I initiated the uh recycling program.

That was in corruption scenario when I contacted the Daily Sun and I was told to speak with Randy Wilson and then my friends uh called me and said, "Hey, my cousin just went to the meeting with the mayor of BVI and just so happened to be had to arrive at the time the phone call came in from Randy Wilson that hey, we got to do something.

And Fernandez is circulating the petition for recycling." Well, you should have known that from the beginning because I went to art with Margie Brown and then I picked up the packet to facilitate doing a referendum just that because I had waited for seven months asked numerous times for you guys to facilitate recycling people and I'm talking about your predecessors and they on nine different occasions in seven months said flagstep was too small and this is why I initiated the scenario but then the Republicans they said holy smoke Randy said hey Andy's facilitating the scenario and this catapult them into the mayor role say we need to do something boom all of a sudden magic emergency meeting in the paper five days later and there'll be a meeting in three weeks and boom all all of a sudden unanimously it passes.

Isn't that amazing? I initiate the fourth street door pass and numerous other scenarios with turning lanes to fix black traffic and whatnot. But right here on this particular scenario also one of my uh my main scenarios here now is I actually I have several hats. One was uh army army corps engineers. I've seen this manipulation like that fourth street fiasco over here on the roundabout is ridiculous. 1.2 million. Same thing with the fourth street overpass.

I said why is it that flight staff's paying $85 a yard concrete but a similar bridge right down the road at u 139 miles from here? They're paying $40 a yard less. Corrupt nepotism. Now, with this said here, my my key uh issues I've been fighting for years is uh finite water resources. We have limited water. And all of a sudden, three years ago, what happened? Uber Dam 83% empty. What does that mean? 27% of water capacity. Lake Pow 87% empty. Now, that's three years ago.

What just happened last year in November and then March of this year? Five months winter. Don't you remember? We only had one foot, seven inches of rain, I mean of snow. We have no water. And then you guys keep on approving these plants to facilitate corrupt lies. Then you have HOAs that manipulate segregation, which is red lining just like for street. Green law, $75,000 more in 1980 and 1997 than Sunnyside. Same size houses, same age houses. Same age, same size houses, same material.

Your time is great and racis. All right, council. Uh, there's no more public comment. I see. And no additional questions from council. So, I will entertain a motion. I would like to make a motion to recommend the city council approve the preliminary PRA plat in accordance with the findings presented in the report and the planning and zoning commission's recommendation which voted 720 in favor. Is there a second? I'll second. Is there any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right.

Thank you. Moving down to B. Consideration and approval of contract. Good afternoon, your honor. Members of council, I am Trevor Henry. I am the capital improvements engineer and we like to share with you our presentation. I want to be relatively quick, but I also want to be thorough on the information. So the item tonight or this afternoon is change order number three for the Butler forth improvements project and it is for what we are calling phase B. Here is kind of an overview of the project.

We've shared this before. So this is I40. This is the Butler Avenue corridor. And our project starts on the very westerly edge of the diagram here or the picture here. And this is still within ADOT rightway for the traffic interchange. It's on Butler Avenue and it goes all the way to the east. So this is the very westerly edge of Sawa Heights subdivision. And then we also have a little bit of Four Street, a little bit of north, a little bit of south. So this is what we are planning currently.

We do show two roundabouts that are proposed and we do have Herald Ranch Road being realigned and connecting into the Westerly roundabout. So this is kind of the the overview of the project.

So what we have tonight for you or this afternoon is change order number three and we are looking for approval for change order three which is to Burgess and Michael for the amount of 2.2 2 million 730 calendar days added to the services or the design services contract and staff is recommending approval to Burgess and Knipel in the amount shown there with the calendar days for an extension and to authorize the city manager to execute the necessary documents. So what is change order number three?

I'm sure you're asking. So we are going to move into the second phase of this design. So initially we were phase A which got us from initial planning to 30%. So now we're going into phase B which will get us from 30% to finals. So that is a 60 90 and 100 level design effort for plans specifications and an estimate. We are going to be working on some environmental documents and services to help uh meet our conditions and warrants through the grant that we received the build grant.

We will have some final traffic and drainage reports. We will complete a Clomar which is a conditional letter of map revision and we will be working through the 404 permit process with the Army Corps of Engineers. We have extensive coordination and discussions with property owners on rightaway and easement acquisitions. We will coordinate with our partners and property owners as well on what this project will look like along their corridor. We will have public outreach as well.

We have that as part of phase A and we plan to have that as part of phase B so that we get to a final complete project. And I did highlight there change order number three is funded with the current fiscal year authorized budget of 2.3 million. So if you remember back change order number three is 2.2 million. So we have the budget to cover that. Uh we do have in phase B or change order number three what we're calling if authorized tasks. So these are items of work should we need them.

We don't know currently because we need to get through the process and those add up to about $330,000. So those are for post design services. Whenever we start a project, we like to have our designer on board so that they can help us with construction items. We also have a construction manager at risk involvement and we have a roundabout relocation effort should they be needed. And I'd like to go into a little more detail on those last two on on the upcoming slides.

So I'll just leave that for there right now. So this is what change order number three involves. Project improvements. Uh we have a proposed four-lane configuration. So it's two lanes in each direction with a five-foot bike lane and a six-foot sidewalk. We have a landscaped center median. And we also have parkways between the sidewalk and the bike lane and the road. Uh we do have roundabouts at Butler and Fourth proposed and we have another roundabout proposed at Butler and Herald Ranch.

And here I have pending discussions with Little America. So earlier this year, Little America came to us and they had requested moving the Westerly roundabout a little closer to their development and that kind of works with some future plans and uh we we talked with them. We got a little more information, but also if you remember we have AOT who is part of this project. they are a partner. And if we move the roundabout closer to their interchange, it could affect how traffic begins to back up.

As volumes increase on certain parts of the day, we get traffic that might start leading into the off-ramps. So, I40 has offramps. So, some of those could get backed up and then start going into the main interstate 40 on part of that work there. So we have to talk with AOT. We have to go through an exercise with them to ensure that it's safe and compliant to move the roundabout. We are currently working with our designer on that report.

We hope to find it acceptable in about a week or two and then we will ship that over to AOT and then we can go through a little more um measures to determine if that is the right thing to do. So that's why I have it there in parentheses pending discussions with Little America and also with ADOT. So just just understand that potentially that roundabout could move, but we we'll do our investigation to ensure that is the right thing to do.

We also will have storm water infrastructure improvements at Butler and Fourth. That intersection will be raised approximately 10 to 12 feet. So that'll help with building a drainage structure underneath to convey the water across and through. We are also planning to do a pedestrian shared structure with that drainage. So we'll have drainage and a pedestrian crossing very similar to what we did at the Bula University realignment project. It'll be a shared component going through there.

Um we do have upgraded water and sewer infrastructure in the area and we also are going to conduits for citywide fiber networks. And then we will have dual left turn lanes within I40. So underneath the bridge right now is a single lane. So we have five lane five lanes, two in each direction and a single turn lane. So we're planning to add one turn lane. So it'll be six lanes. And I'll go have another picture coming up here that will kind of show a little bit of how that might work.

And then the last thing that is not shown on here is we will be working with Mountain Line on bus stops. We have approximately six that we are planning with them through their operations to ensure they're in the right location. So those will be part of this project as well. So these are just some pictures that we've shown before. Upper left is the corridor kind of how it's going to look. Two lanes each direction. There's the center landscape median parkway. You got a bike there.

And then the outsides are where the pedestrians will be walking. If I talk a little slower, we'll see a guy walking. Actually, he's on this side. And then bottom left, these are the the turn lanes I was talking about. The pink or purple are the walkways. So, what we're going to have to do, like I had mentioned before, we have five lanes currently. We're going to add a turn lane.

So everything will fit between the peers or the columns of the bridge and then the sidewalks will be on the outside of the peers or columns of the bridge and that's what's represented with the pink and purple. Uh on the right is a just an example picture of the roundabout. This is at Harold Ranch Road in Butler. bottom left of this picture, you can kind of see where the current Herald Ranch Road connects to Butler Avenue. And right now, it's at a non-compliant angle.

So, what we're planning to do is bring it in, tie it into the roundabout. And this area here is city rightway. So, that blends in well to doing a roundabout and making that connection. So, these are just some exhibits, some pictures of what we currently have for the project. Uh, just giving a refresher on what we've done to date. So, in two in 2022, we released an RSOQ for the design services. We're doing them in two phases, A and B. Council awarded in November of 2022 to Burgess and Naple.

And the first phase was 700,000 a little overund 700,000 for phase A and it's 300 days. Since then we've had two change orders that added approximately 300,000 to the contract. So right now we're just a little over a million currently on our design contract and updates for this calendar year. So we did get notification in January that we are going to receive the raise grant which is now the build grant. So that was awarded in January of this year for 19 million and that is construction only.

Uh in June we uh were awarded we applied and were awarded the a smart fund amount in uh for $2.9 million and that can be contributed to the project in whole. So we may use some of it for design if needed, but most likely we will use most of that for construction. And so phase B, we're planning right now to have it complete calendar year 2026. So we hope to have a complete design in by the end of calendar year 2026.

And then just there it talks about what the final construction documents will be from 30% to final environmental services for our grants that we need to comply with and then potential SEMAR involvement. So let me let me talk a little bit about this SEMAR involvement. Right now we are working with the Federal Highway Administration on the build grant and their provisions require a cost or a price component on uh selecting a contractor to move forward with the design.

And typically for these larger projects, we like to use an alternate delivery method procurement, SEMAR, construction manager at risk, which is a qualifications based process or procurement. So, we're not quite lining up with what the Federal Highway Administration and their provisions are looking for with what we particularly like to do here at the city of Flagstaff.

So what we're doing now is we are working with the Federal Highway Administration and we are going to make a request through their CFR standards to make a request for a procurement process that does not comply with a price component which is Seymar. So we are currently working through that. We're working through that process. We're generating a letter and we're going to get that out here shortly.

And we hope to have this resolved and have authorization to use construction manager at risk by the end of this calendar year 2025. So that's the kind of the update we have for 2025. Now our schedule. So we are again we are complete with design under phase A up to 30%. Change order three was approved at the change order committee on August 7th with a recommendation to take it to council for final approval. And that'll take us from where we are now, 30% to final design.

And again, I mentioned we do have the awards for the grants that we received and the funds that we received, but we need to take the agreements to the council for approval. So, we are going to get those lined up, receive them from the agencies, and then we will be before you in hopefully before the end of this calendar year to present to you for your approval, those agreements. And again, we're working through the request for Seymar.

We hope to have that at the end of the calendar year, but if it bleeds into early parts of 2026, we should be okay. And then again by the summer of 2026 working on acquisition for property rights either rightaway or easements and then by the end of the calendar year 26 be complete with our final design and then bring to you to council a first construction package in the spring of 27 and then we'll have construction for two seasons 27 2027 and 2028.

and then we should be done with our project and I'll be happy to answer any questions. Council member Matthews. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Trevor, for very thorough presentation. I really appreciate it. Can you go back a couple of slides where you talk one more? Okay, one more. one more but I can probably ask a question there. So just to clarify this process um you know my favorite thing is the speed of government.

Um is this change order when I think of a change order because I used to consult for construction companies. Um they were presented because um there was an initial budget and cost and then um there were new things that came up, changes and stuff and so the the uh contractor would put in a change order to request additional funds. But I how I'm understanding this and others in the past we've had is this is just a typical process.

We completed uh phase one or a um and now when we go into the other phases it requires a new change order which was anticipated maybe some different costs um have increased but it was anticipated that this is the process in the additional 730 days. Um, is that all in the bigger picture anticipated and this is just how we go about processing each phase? Does that make sense? It does, your honor, council member Matthews. So for this particular project, we had the initial phase A.

So an actual contract was executed with Burgess and Knipel for the amount um I think it was for 7 6,000. So that was executed, signed, ready to go. As we move forward to start phase B, we got advisement and recommendations from our legal attorneys and from procurement that the best mechanism to move forward would be a change order to that initial original contract for phase B. So that's kind of how we got to this point of a change order for this phase B.

And then also should we have known we were going to do two phases? Um the request for statements of qualification. So that's an RSOQ should have been stated specifically that there will be two contracts. So contract for phase A and contract for phase B. But I don't think that was the case. So, the best mechanism to move this forward would be a change order to the original contract for phase B. I hope that helped. It does. Thank you, Council Member Spence. Thank you, Mayor.

Um, could you please uh go back to your uh very first slide with that overview of the two roundabouts? My question concerns the eventual access that the Bluffs uh senior living development. Yes. Where you have your cursor now. What will be the access that that Bluffs facility would have to um to Butler? um with the two roundabouts where they're currently pictured. Yes, your honor, Council Member Spence, thank you for the question.

So, we have the roundabouts spaced where they currently show on on the diagram. Uh Canyon Del Rio has a few access points coming from their subdivision connecting to Butler. And then the bluffs has two access points, one here and another one here. So as we and we're at the 30% level. So we haven't quite investigated how some of these connections will be made. Uh if you remember phase B is going to include a final traffic report. So all of that will be considered and evaluated.

But we do want to make sure that on this arterial, this minor arterial, that we do comply with how many access points are given for a development. But the bluffs are here. Our project is coming. So we have to make sure we design and accommodate what they currently have. So all of those factors will be uh considered and put into the final traffic report.

I understand it's a complex analysis that has to be done and uh I guess the canyon del Rio um traffic is something I hadn't hadn't thought about. Is there any potential for creating a parallel um residential road like you have on the I17 or other interstates down in Phoenix where they have um a road that goes parallel to the arterial or the interstate up to a point of an interchange. In this instance, uh, Canyon D Rio or the bluffs would, this is how I imagine this could work.

The bluffs or Canyon de Rio traffic would go on a slowmoving side road up to one of the uh, roundabouts and then they could enter or exit uh, Fourth Street at at those roundabout. Am I making sense of what I'm thinking is an alternative way for those uh two traffic patterns to merge onto Fourth Street? I'm sorry. Merge onto Butler. Your honor, Council Member Spence, uh you're making sense. I understand what you're talking about.

kind of like a frontage road for developments to get to um acceptable access points, something similar to that. So, what I what I can offer is if we were to do a parallel road or a frontage road, that's just more rightway that we need to acquire. And the plan for this project was to build it within the existing corridor. We may have little spots of right away that we need to to work with or easements, but we had planned to put this project within the existing corridor.

If we're planning to do something like a frontage road or parallel road, we're definitely going to need more rightway and I don't think we have the ability to do that. A lot of these projects like Woodshshire, the Bluffs, Canyon Del Rio are pretty much developed and I don't think they are able to donate or give that right away or the city cannot purchase that right away to to ensure that this project is completed. Does that help? Yes, it helps.

Um I I'm just uh trying to envision the traffic patterns that could emerge with the two roundabouts as shown. And and I realize the the the roundabout closest to the interstate. You're talking about moving it even closer to the interstate. If you if you can work that out with with AOT.

Um currently the um Butler going from four lanes uh in front of Little America down to that temporary u traffic control signal at Fourth and Butler um is a real bottleneck and I suspect it's u somewhat of a not only a bottleneck for traffic But I suspect a safety issue as well. Four lanes to two lanes, back up to four lanes as you go further down up the hill after that uh traffic control signal.

So, I just I think it's important to realize that there is going to be increased traffic on Butler with these two roundabouts improving improving the traffic access and and I I'm trying to imagine how canyon to real traffic and and the bluffs traffic is going to do with I assume what you're uh designing here is stop signs for those um entry points. Is that correct your honor? Council member Spence. Uh yes.

To answer your question just now, we do have stop control access points right now currently. So that will be continue on what we're going to do with the final design. We'll investigate those and make sure those are correct. But one of the other items you mentioned is currently this corridor is two lanes. To the north, Fourth Street is four lanes. To the south will be four lanes. To the east is currently four lanes. And then right by Little America and going west is four lanes.

So we are going to build a project to meet these connection points. So, I think we're going to get a good handle on the traffic. We'll make sure that everything is moving correctly. And before you came on to the city council, the staff, the project manager that was part of this project brought to the council several evaluations. They did a matrix. They looked at volumes of traffic with an intersection, with a signalized intersection, with roundabouts.

So different type and then different lane configuration. So one or two or just how the roundabouts would fit and everything suggested a roundabout two-lane roundabout would work. And that was presented to the council and it was approved for that direction to move forward. So what what we have here, what I'm showing here is what has been reviewed, analyzed, and endorsed by the city council.

um if if we need to, we can look into it a little more, but what we're presenting to move forward is what we have been given direction to do. Thank you for that uh background. And I guess now that I'm listening to your response, one other idea to improve traffic from Canyon to Rio and the Bluffs would be a slip lane, a a turning lane to uh enter uh Butler. I don't know how much right-of-way access you'd have to acquire for uh slip lanes, but that might be another consideration.

Your honor, Council Member Spence, when you say slip lane, are you talking about off of Peak Point or are you talking about off of Butler? I guess I'm referring to a a slip lane. Maybe I'm not using the right traffic control term, but a slip lane for traffic that's wanting to enter onto Butler, where your cursor is now. Canyon Deio wanting to turn uh right onto Butler that there'd be a a lane where they could accelerate and get into traffic.

Your honor, Council Member Spence, we do have a turn lane going into Canyon Del Rio. Eastbound traffic can turn and go south. Uh we don't have I guess you would call that an acceleration lane going to the east. So turning right, we don't have that plan, but again, that can be evaluated, can be looked at, and be part of the final traffic report. Thank you. I I I don't mean to be nitpicky. I'm sure this is a a complicated uh uh traffic analysis and and certainly complicated construction project.

So, um, I just wanted to be sure that we're giving all the consideration we can give to traffic from the bluffs getting onto onto Butler. Understood. Council member Garcia. Uh, thank you, Madame Mayor. And as you discussed Oh, and thank you, Trevor, for for the great presentation.

And as you discussed with council member Spence about some of the different alterations and kind of wrap my head around it, I don't think my question's so relevant anymore or my u my suggestion is really relevant because we will be seeing this come back in front of us. But my my concern was just the Herald Ranch Road access to the roundabout regardless of where we decide where we land on where it's going to be with Little America and ADOT.

um that that in my opinion that that access to the roundabout still needs to to coalesce with wherever that roundabout's going to end up. Um but of course you have experts that will tell you what that you know what what really needs to happen with that. I just don't see that a road of that great of access going through to John Wesley Powell Boulevard and as an access point before you get down to Fourth Street. So a more used road.

Um, I'd want to see it have enough access to both ways of traffic without having that stop point. Um, so if you could take that back to your staff, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, your honor, Council Member Garcia, we do have experts. Yes. Trevor, can you um this this is the only photo that you have of the entire project, right? I want to ask about the Sawa Heights improvements because that tends to come up um every time we get a presentation about this.

Could you just briefly share um what is planned east of that roundabout? Uh yes, your honor. Uh so what we do have what we have here is um coming off of the roundabout eastbound, we will have potentially two lanes coming off and they will stay two lanes going east and they will connect into the actual the existing road configuration right there at the westerly edge of Sawa Heights subdivision.

And we are not planning to touch anything related to the subdivision and we are not planning to change the way that road ends at the very east end. So everything will be accommodated with our project to meet that existing configuration right there at the westerly edge of Sawa Heights subdivision. We don't plan to touch any parcels. We don't plan to touch any property. We we're not going to be asking for right away or anything for that existing subdivision. So they they are potent they are safe.

Um westbound again you're coming off of the existing road configuration. Two lanes westbound. We will keep two lanes westbound. Then we start our center median landscaped. As you get to the roundabout, we will have a turn lane which will get you to go north fourth street and then you will have one lane to go through the roundabout and continue on or go south, however you want to, however the the user, the traveling public want to use that.

What you see here as green and white, those are crossings. So, very similar to what we did at the Cedar Locket Fourth roundabout, we will have crossings. We will make sure they are um ADA approved and they um work with what the users are going to be doing out there. Um again, we'll have a pedestrian crossing underneath this intersection.

So, should they want to be crossing the intersection going on the trail on the uh the foot trail, they can use that or stay above ground and make the crossings at the uh at the intersections, the leg intersections. So, does that help? Is that enough information? Yes. And um do the separated bike lanes end at the roundabout or do they continue down Butler east toward Sonawa Heights?

So what we plan to do there, not enough detail here to show, but if you remember what the roundabout looks at the Bula University realignment. So as the bicyclist gets to the intersection, they can come off, get into the roundabout, make the turns, go through the legs, and then get back up on the bike path. But as always, if a bicyclist wants to stay in the road, they can. So, how far east do the separated bike lanes go? They will just be for the corridor shown.

So, at the very east end, uh we will have the bike lane separated, raised with the sidewalk, but then they will come off and we will put them back into the existing bike lanes. Okay. Thank you, council. Any additional questions? Mayor, I'd like to move that we approve change order three to the professional services contract with Burgess and Nipple, Inc.

in the amount of $2,262,434 for the Butler forth improvement projects and add 730 calendar days to the professional service contract and authorize the city manager to execute the necessary documents. Is there a second? I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Trevor. All right. We have a couple of public hearing items. Um consideration and adoption of an ordinance. I'm going to open the public hearing and we will have presentations from staff.

Hello again. Okay, you are opening. Okay, sorry. I was worried it wasn't me. In case you forgot, my name is Ben Mahia. I'm a planner with the city of Flagstaff Planning and Development Services, unless you've heard something different. Um, for your consideration today, we have a direct ordinance zoning map amendment uh for Pinehaven. The site is located 2951 South Masonic Lane. Uh, it's the southwest intersection of South Lone Tree and East Zouri Drive.

Uh, to the north of this site is uh a vacant parcel in the public facilities and suburban commercial zone. Uh, to the east is Cook community college in the PF zone or public facility zone. Uh to the south you have the single family sub subdivision in the MR zone, Pinnacle Pines, and a vacant parcel in the HR zone. Um with development applications currently under review, sort of occasionally under review uh for this site for for uh high density residential development uh but currently vacant.

To the west of this site is the of that PF zoned parcel as well as I guess uh southwest you have rural residential zoned I believe this is Cookamino comm or national forest at this point um the existing conditions of the site are uh it's zoned rural residential and suburban commercial or splitzoned uh parcel it is within the resource protection overlay it is a vacant parcel uh of 13.82 acres um in size and it provides uh access to Pinnacle Pines via an access easement known as Masonic Link.

The proposal is for the property to be reszoned to the MR zone uh within the resource protection overlay to allow for 83 residential units. Taking a look at the the density uh reasonzoning we we look at density from kind of two lenses. First is the uh does it meet the uh in intended zone. In this case, this is the MR zone uh which allows for six to nine units per acre uh in the resource protection overlay outside of an activity center.

And then it's uh well does it conform with the regional plan? And the regional plan identifies this site as existing suburban neighborhood with an allowed density of 2 to 13 units per acre. The proposed 83 units is uh six units per acre and and in this case it meets both the uh density of the zone and the regional plan. This project uh provides a financial contribution to the city's affordable housing fund totaling approximately $1.8 uh million.

Uh the amount was determined using the construction cost method which is uh simply uh the land and construction cost minus the uh affordable sale price uh and in this case times the the 10 units that are uh being um accounted for in the contribution. So the the contribution is in lie of constructing 10 category 1 affordable units which represents 12% of the total unit count. Uh providing this uh incentive or this um this contribution allows the applicant to use three incentives.

uh they're using one incentive and that that that is the uh forest resource protection reduction incentive in code based off of that 12% uh category one uh provision. It allows them a reduction of 35% in the forest resource uh preservation. We'll go into greater detail when we get to natural resource uh protection plan exactly what that looks like.

So for site design now there are some changes that that occurred after uh or in response to discussion that was held at at the planning and zoning commission and recommendation for uh condition to bring the applicant's proposal into conformance with what's being presented here. So I've circled in in red where where I just want to draw your attention.

Um, so before we go into greater detail, there were some some elements uh that were that the applicant stated that they had intended to remove but wasn't being reflected in the approved site plan. So to provide them the opportunity to give you the most up-to-date information, uh they've given us an an amendment to their site plan, just the sheets that show uh specifically the parts that are being changed. That was included in the packet for this um for this item. But there you go.

That's what that's what the circle's doing there. Uh this site uh this proposal meets the minimum setbacks of uh front setback of 10 ft. uh side setback of five feet and the rear setback of 15 feet. You'll see that they've kind of focused the development central to the uh the site on an east west axis provides a unit mix of of nine two-bedroom units, 72 three-bedroom units, and uh two fourbedroom units.

Uh the proposal is required to uh provide 15% of the lot area as common space and that is provided in these resource areas that surround the site. At the time of original site plan review, code did require a 5% uh civic space provision which has been met with uh these uh trails which will be publicly accessible running through uh and around the site through the resource protection areas and that totals 6.7% of the uh lot area.

For parking, the required number of parking spaces was 188 uh spaces using the uh market rate calculation. So, they didn't use an incentive to reduce uh any any parking. Um and that is being met with the 189 spaces that are being provided. Additionally, there was a requirement for nine bicycle parking spaces and they're providing 12. Now you'll see what was circled was an observation deck uh that has been removed from their from their plans.

Um so that was in response to uh some neighbor concern. The applicant had stated that they would remove it from their from their application and had intended to do so, but prior to planning and zoning commission, it had not uh been made to uh into their uh a bird site plan. So that's why it's been uh called out as a condition of of approval here. Uh phase one of this proposal, and I should probably start with saying that they're proposing to develop this site in two phases.

Phase one of this proposal is west of Masonic Lane. It's the 40 residential units uh to the west of Masonic Lane and the clubhouse as well as the east west drive connecting Zouri to Masonic Lane. Uh there's a sidewalk along the north side of this uh drive a connecting to uh additional sidewalk that is being constructed with this project along the frontage of Zouri. and that that'll all happen as part of phase one.

Uh the improvements to Zonyi Drive include a new bike lane and sidewalk along the Zouri frontage and two bus stops, one on uh both sides or one on each side of of Zouri uh to go for both directions uh as well as the detention base inserting the storm water management. On the east side you have phase two uh which is 43 residential units another east west uh drive providing connection this time from from Lone Tree to Masonic.

You have a continuation of that uh north sidewalk connecting to some improved uh sidewalk reconstruction along Lone Tree because there is a southbound right turn lane. Uh and they've added a new five-foot parkway and uh reconstruction of the sidewalk as part of that project as well. Just going to briefly go through the the building design.

Uh you'll see uh unit A and A2 uh and B are the residential units all meeting the uh architectural design standards for material color massing uh and roof design. Um the clubhouse, we'll see another circle of mine. Uh in the in the meeting, it was also disclosed that as a product of neighborhood meeting discussions, uh there was some concern about uh the rooftop um deck, rooftop uh patio, and the applicant had stated that they would remove that uh from their proposal.

So you'll see they've already provided and it was included in the the packet uh some some changes reflected in their building design for the clubhouse where that rooftop deck has been removed. Resource protection uh residential uh development requires uh 50% forest resource uh protection. This project uses the affordable housing incentive which allows for a reduction of 35% to 35% of 50 gets you to a requirement of 32.5%. Uh they are proposing 33.6% uh preservation rate.

As for slope preservation they are uh meeting and and slightly exceeding all slope categories. A preliminary landscape plan was reviewed as part of the site plan uh project. The uh it met all landscaping standards.

Now there is also uh language in the development agreement that commits to a meaningful amount of pollinator friendly landscaping uh at the final landscape plan which is part of the civil uh review that conformance with that uh condition of the DA will be evaluated public systems impact analysis. So, uh, traffic rightaway impact. The study estimated peak hour trips of 48, uh, vehicles per hour in the morning and 56 vehicles per hour in the afternoon.

Uh, the estimated trips did not warrant a full traffic impact analysis. Uh, the Lone Tree improvements, part of a a city-led uh, project is is underway. This portion of of Loan Tree adjacent to this site uh will be part of a future phase. I believe it's phase three of the improvements to Lone Tree. Uh and any future developments that have sufficient impact where they need to study the the intersection for improvements will potentially provide improvements to that intersection.

But this development itself does not warrant uh improvements to Zouri and Lone Tree there. for storm water. A drainage impact analysis was performed to study existing and proposed conditions. Uh the results of the impact analysis show the proposed storm water system has the capacity to mitigate and improve upon pre-development conditions based on an analysis of two 10 and 100year storm events for water and wastewater.

AISA or water sewer impact analysis was completed in March uh 10th 2023 and new 8 in water and sewer mains will extend on both sides of Masonic Lane uh to provide service to each unit. This project as a public hearing did require neighborhood meetings. The applicant held two neighborhood meetings. the first on October 17th, 2024 and the second on November 21st, 2024. Uh per the sign-in sheet, the first meeting had 17 attendees and the second 10.

Concerns uh raised were traffic, parking, impacts to the natural environment, uh fractional ownership, which I can get into uh as well, and short-term rentals. uh in response to neighbor participation, the applicants uh removed fractional ownership from their proposal. Uh the applicant has included in their development agreement a restriction that prohibits leases under 30 days.

Uh so fractional ownership uh as provi as described in the the uh applicant materials that were provided in the neighborhood meeting uh allowed for the fractional sale of of property and and there was some concern that that would create a larger scale of impact and the applicant has removed that from their their application. and that has been made a condition uh which is being recommended to you today uh that that be prohibited.

Uh the planning and zoning commission meeting was held on July 23rd, 2025. As I have already alluded to, the applicant stated that they had made changes to the site plan to address neighbor cons concerns about the rooftop deck and the observation structure. And that's why it's been included in uh the recommendations for conditions of approval that they have this project minus those two things that that they've said that they've already adjusted in their their personal plans.

Uh so the commissions that have been added from or the conditions that have been added from the planning and zoning commission meeting are the the site plan shall be revised to remove the rooftop deck from the amenity building. The site plan shall be revised to remove the observation deck and a restriction shall be placed to prohibit fractional sales. There is a development agreement as part of this uh resoning application.

Uh the primary permiss purpose of this agreement is to set out roles and responsibilities in regard to the following uh but not limited to uh the developer obligations for public improvements to rights of way development phasing restrictions on short-term rentals no leases under 30 days and the administration of the affordable housing fund contribution payments uh as well as commitments to sustainability initiatives.

Uh the applicant has uh proposed 100% electric units for the entirety of the site. um two EV charging stations on site uh as well as hookups for each unit, a bus pass program for firstear owners and the applicant will uh promote the use of the eco pass for educators program as well and a bike share program as well as the pollinator friendly landscaping that I had mentioned earlier.

The findings for a zoning map amendment are uh the first is that the proposed amendment is consistent with and conforms to the goals of the general plan and any applicable specific plans. The second the proposed amendment will not be detrimental to the public interest, health, safety, convenience or welfare of the city and will add to the public good as described in the general plan.

And the third is that the affected site is physically suitable in terms of design location shape size operating characteristics, and the provision of public and emergency vehicle access and public services and utilities to ensure that the requested zone designation and their proposed or anticipated uses and/or development will not endanger, jeopardize, or otherwise constitute a hazard to the property or improvements in the vicinity in which the property is located.

Finding one uh conformance with the general plan uh as we already talked about when we looked at the density that does conform with the existing suburban neighborhood area type in ter in terms of density as well as the building type of the uh the lowrise apartment structures townhouse style development. Uh, I have a list. I'm going to get some water here. Um, here are uh some of the um goals and policies from the regional plan that this uh item is in conformance with.

Although a comprehensive evaluation of the the conformance of with the regional plan has been included as part of the uh staff report under environmental planning and conservation ENC 10.5 which is says support the development of watchable wildlife recreation opportunities. Uh so they have a a trail system that's running around the site in resource protection uh area which would encourage that uh activity.

Under open space OS 1.4 use open space as opportunities for non-motorized connectivity to interact with nature and to enjoy the views and quiet. the same as the previous they're providing a public access trail to accomplish that. Underwater resources WR4.3 development requiring public utility services uh will be located within the urban growth boundary. Under energy E2.1 uh promote renewable energy sources that reduce demand upon fossil fuels and other forms of generation that produce waste.

E1 13 promote and encourage the use of fuel efficient vehicles that use renewable fuels. As previously stated, this is a 100% electric project. Uh they have a bike share program, a bus pass program, and two EV charging station uh stations or units on site as well as EV hookups in all residential units. Community character CC 3.2 to maintain and enhance existing buildings and blend well-designed new buildings into existing neighborhoods.

This project uh uses town home style units with building massing compatible with adjacent uh development growth areas and land use LU 5.1 encourage development patterns within the designated growth boundaries to sustain efficient infrastructure projects and maintenance. Uh LU 5.2 to uh promote infill development over peripheral expansion to conserve environmental resources, spur economic investments and reduce the cost of providing infrastructure and services.

This site already has those services in the in the existing rightway. Uh under transportation T1.6 provide and promote strategies that increase alternate modes of travel and demand for vehicular travel to reduce peak period traffic. As previously stated, there's a number of incentives and and initiatives that are part of this proposal that that accomplish that.

Uh under neighborhoods, housing, and urban conservation, NH3.5, encourage and incentivize affordable housing, and NH5.2 provide adequate resources for individuals experiencing homelessness. This project provides uh a sizable housing contribution that accomplishes that not on this site specifically but allows uh the housing uh division or uh to be able to support the development of affordable housing elsewhere. They're fighting uh two community benefits and public good.

The developer will provide improvements along East Sunni Drive and South Lone Tree Road, including new or improved sidewalks, Parkway, and a bike lane. The developer will provide two bus stops serving both directions along East Sunni Drive. And the developer will contribute to the city of Flagstaff affordable housing fund commensurate with 10 category 1 affordable units or 12% of the total number of units at a total contribution of approximately 8 million.

Finding three siting site is physically suitable. Uh this project meets the applicable codes and requirements. Uh site plan was approved on May 9th, 2024 subject to the direct ordinance uh direct ordinance zoning map amendment. So it was condition on this action. Now uh mitigates any impacts determined uh by impact analyses.

So the traffic impact analysis, water or whissa and drainage impact analyses were completed and the off-site improvements that are required are being proposed as part of this and that's the bike lane, the sidewalk and the right turn lane from uh Lone Tree. With that uh the recommendation is for the the planning and zoning commission recommends the city council approve the zoning map amendment request in in accordance with the findings in the staff report and subject to the following conditions.

The subject property must be developed in accordance with the approved site plan and the conditions of approval dated May 9th, 2024. Uh modifications other than minor modifications to the approved site plan will require an amendment to this direct to ordinance zoning map amendment request. The site plan shall be revised to remove the rooftop deck from the amenity building. The site plan shall be revised to remove the observation deck. A restriction shall be placed to prohibit fractional sales.

All other requirements of the zoning code and other city codes, ordinances, and regulations shall be met by the proposed development. All terms, conditions, and restrictions detailed within the Pinehaven development agreement must be satis fully satisfied.

And in the event the property is reszoned and the developer fails to obtain final civil plan approval within two years of the effective date of the zoning the reasonzoning ordinance, then the city may schedule a public hearing before the city council for the purpose of causing the zoning on the property to revert to the former classification of rural residential and suburban commercial in accordance with ARS9-462.01. So that's it for for my presentation.

Uh the applicant is here with their own presentation as well. Um thank you Council, Mayor, good to see everyone tonight. Um, always a great excuse to come to Flagstaff from Austin, Texas. Um, so my wife supports this this move. Um, it's great to be here. It's been about two, three years in the making. Um, my name is Tom Stab. I am the CEO of the company, which is Roto Development Group. We are based out of Austin, Texas, as I said.

So, if you look us up as to what we do in Austin, Texas, it's a variety of things. I think what you'll find in whether it be LinkedIn post, our website, our communities is that we are an innovative master plan community developer. Um we are trailblazer. We bring innovation and we bring people centric communities across Austin, Texas. Um we got started in Arizona outside of Flagstaff um in Williams was where we broke ground back in 2016.

I always wanted to be in Flagstaff but land was very expensive and then we got an opportunity that was presented by a local agent here um who was part of the license uh approval earlier and it was a great site.

It's a it's an amazing site with a beautiful topography uh which was one of the inspirations around the observation deck which we now removed but it's an incredible site and so we had the opportunity to produce something special and I think what you'll see today is help with that and again if you look at a lot of our communities you will see a mix of rural and urbanism allin one so we do try to bring innovative products into our communities different typologies uh our price points any community will range from mid200 range to above a million, right?

So, we we really believe in attracting all different people of life. Um, mainly because it's changing. People are having less kids, they have more dogs, they work from home. This is a different world that we're living in. So, um, what you will also see in our communities, including this one, is we invest heavy in two main things. Um, one is park space and two is amenities. And we don't wait until the very end to do so. We do it very early on.

And so um in this one for example, we have a substantial investment in our amenity and and wellness center. So I am the CEO and and the person that deals with all the fire drills per day. But behind me there is a large team of award-winning architects, landscape planners. Um Terry Slavic Suzuki, for example, was the chief marketing officer for the biggest and most award-winning master plan community developer in the United States. Uh she is our CMO.

We obviously have our award-winning architect who is out in the audience today, Mark Win, who was trained in Copenhagen, and he was the lead designer of this project. And then in terms of the GC and the construction team as well as our agent team, th those are all local. In fact, they're in the room tonight. So, all of th those um fees and those services will be um hired here locally in Flagstaff. Again, just another view of the site. I think you know where it is, but it is close to NA.

It is next door to Pine Canyon and we are in the sea of longtime Flagstaff developers and pass off to you all. But we are trying to do things a little bit differently than the capstones of the world and the Miramontes. Um and I I think this this site does that. So I'm going to let Mark Lynn talk a little bit about the inspiration of the aesthetics because I think it's a really important part to talk about.

Um and then also Mark if you could could you talk about how we you know focus on the nature and the site as the leading factor to our design versus the homes. Sure. Yes. Thanks Tom and mayor and council. My name again is Mark Lind. I'm the architect of record. Um I want to start by saying um I'm an Austin native but I went to grad school at ASU down in Tempi.

Um, my research on Native American cliff dwellings as architecture as good examples of regional climatebased design took me to the Verde Valley and up to Flagstaff quite frequently. So even though I'm a Texan, I'm I'm very familiar with that area. And you cannot go from the sonor and desert in the Phoenix area up to the coonino forest of Flagstaff without being aed by the beauty of the the forest. So whenever people ask what is the inspiration of this project, it's the forest. It has to be.

Um we decided early on that we wanted to make the architecture understated to let it be the backdrop to the forest rather than vice versa. We did this by keeping the massing simple, uh, grouping the buildings together closely so we could preserve as many trees as possible. We painted the buildings a dark color so they recede into the forest. So, it's really the forest that pops, not the buildings.

Um, we employed simple shed roofs so that rainwater is directed to the back of the units, not the front where the driveways and and roads are located. And by shedding to the back, we also facilitate snow snow removal. Um, it also helps keep the massing and the height of our buildings down. We opted to not to the traditional 10-ft ceiling plate, but to actually bring it down to 9 ft, that with the very low sloped roof makes the massing more minimal and it allows greater views to the forest.

As a consequence, most importantly, we followed WOOI design guidelines in addition to the city guidelines. The WOOI while you guys I don't need to describe what WOOI is. you guys live with it every day. But we designed um the buildings to have fireresistant materials on all the walls and roofs. We minimized roof overhangs because these elements trap flying embers direct them into the attic. So we also eliminated atticss. Our projects uh are lower as a result.

Our roofs are simpler to construct and because we eliminated the attic, there's less of a chance of the roof burning because when the roof goes, the house is lost. So following these WOOI guidelines really helps to protect both the buildings, but by doing that, we're also protecting the forest because if the buildings burn, it's it's exacerbating the wildfire problem in the the surrounding forest.

Um, I wanted to say that as right after shortly after we finished the design of this project, those devastating wildfires, sorry, wildfires in Los Angeles occurred. And I did a lot of research on the buildings that um withtood the the utter devastation that entire communities suffered as a result. And it was the buildings that followed WOOI guidelines that were largely unaffected. And it was the older buildings with the broad roof overhangs, the wooden brackets, all those wonderful details.

Unfortunately, those were the buildings that were devastated by the fires in Los Angeles. So, I feel really good that that we're designing buildings that will not only protect the occupants, but also help protect the forest. And I I like to think that the the design that we have put together for Pinehaven that includes maximizing openness on the front-facing and rearfacing walls uh to the maximum extent our our structural engineer will allow.

We've got glass in those areas to connect people to the exterior. Every room on the exterior of the buildings has direct access either to a balcony or to a patio. So, not only we protecting the forest, we're trying to give people a really strong connection to it. Um, as Ben said, we're we're using all electric. We've got trail systems that allow people to experience the forest surrounding the buildings.

And I I my hope is that our design acts as a precedent for environmentally responsive building design in the Flag Staff area. Um I Tom, I think that kind of covers everything, but I'm happy to answer any questions anyone's got. Yeah, thanks.

and then I'll I'll take over here in terms of again um if you look at our communities um in fact I'm on a panel here in two weeks talking about how we're redefining success in terms of communities across the nation really and if you look at a lot of developers they measure on one really key metric and that's called ASP which is your average selling price and if you look at how we measure success in our communities that's not a metric now it's important because economics but we measure things like park space per uh per home uh dog dog park space per resident um resident engagement in the community happiness index wellness index these are things that we're leaning into because we believe that if we focus on the people that ASP will happen um that is a rare thing and what you will have to see is um that's just a talk track we have to invest in things that are peopleentric and that is where this came to fruition the the wellness and the amenity center um in phase one is above and beyond um so much so that it it pushes out profits all the way to the very end of the project, right?

Because we are leaning so much into the wellness category of this where you will see sauna in cold plunges, Japanese meditation rooms, yoga rooms, event rooms that are open to the public. Um, and then of course a substantial amount of trail systems around the site. Okay. Um, now I did want to make mention on the last item here, which is our affordable housing fee.

Uh I I don't know if there's any people here in the room who develop, but I'm sure you will know that copper prices are skyrocketing with the demand of electric from the data centers. Um permit costs are going up, water costs are going up, sewer costs are going up, materials are going up, labor's shrinking, which is increasing cost of labor. So it is very difficult to build a home that's affordable. Um I don't know how to do it. I'm not going to pretend that I do.

Uh but this commitment, which is the largest in the history of Flagstaff at $1.8 million is our testament to you all that if you can find experts that can do it. I here's here's some investment for that to be done. Um that said, we we we think that that's that's a sizable amount of money to begin that effort, I would assume. Um with that, I do have the civil engineer in the room. Um, council member Spence has asked a lot of questions around traffic.

So, I think you'll appreciate his explanation around probably one of the bigger concerns in these meetings with the neighbors is the traffic. How are you going to mitigate against traffic? What is your plan? And so, Luke, if you would not mind talking about that and um we can get into the other things too with, you know, fractional or short-term rentals or whatever it may be. Good afternoon, council members. Uh Luke Carowway.

I'm president of Viewpoint Land Solutions and we're the project engineer for for Pinehaven. Um Ben did a really good job kind of going through the specific improvements, traffic improvements that that are contemplated in the development and memorialized in the development agreement.

Um, I think just to share a little bit about what we're, you know, from a from a traffic standpoint, what we're most proud of with this project is the addressing of the four different types of transportation from from obviously doing, you know, traffic improvements that are making turning movements safer, providing multiple connections to the the public roadway. Um but also looking at how we can improve the site for for cyclists, for pedestrians. Um the proposal of of the bus stops.

I think that's one of the things that that you know when we look back at this community, we're going to take a lot of pride in is the ability to to not just facilitate traffic, but facilitate other modes of um of transportation. Um, I don't really I think that's really, you know, all that I want to share. Like I said, I think Ben covered, you know, the traffic and and utilities and and a lot of the engineering for you all.

Um, I would say the other thing that, you know, I think we're really proud of is, you know, the the amount of the site that that is going to remain undisturbed, the amount of, you know, of open space and and wooded vegetation that we're going to have be able to provide to our residents. uh with with over 3,000 linear feet of nature trails internally that then connects to the uh the public pedestrian system. So, just a couple things that u I wanted to point out.

Uh we appreciate you considering our project uh today and and the team is on standby to answer any questions. Thank you. Should we talk about STRs? Are you pretty satisfied with that? More or less, we're prohibiting them. So, that's what we want to hear. Does that conclude your It does. Yes, sir. Okay. So, we have um some questions and I don't know whether they're for Ben or for the applicant. So, we'll see. Um C uh Vice Mayor, may I I apologize before you ask? I I do need to correct myself.

I did not update a condition the exact language of which um has changed since I originally wrote this presentation. So I want to just clarify. So uh a restriction shall be placed to prohibit fractional sales. That's no longer how that condition reads in the in the ordinance. So I just want to read that for you now.

that says, "Should the development result in condominiums, a restriction prohibiting the fractional sale of units shall be placed in the codes, covenants, and restrictions and recorded prior to or concurrent with recordation of the final plat. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you, and thank you both for the presentation. A couple of comments and then I'll have a question for Ben. Um, for the developer, I do like that you included the multimodal transportation.

I I like the architectural design, um, and using the elements from the outside and, uh, looks like you really spent a lot of time researching Flagstaff and and what would fit in here. Um, my questions are, Ben, I'm wondering, you know, I I am concerned with the traffic.

I used to live in this neighborhood and the the intersection zoning zouony and lone tree to me is pretty dangerous and I would like to figure out a way to be proactive and not wait on doing more of a traffic study and you know it's that intersection there's topography it gets very icy in the winter I almost spun out and I'm a very slow driver and I almost spun out in my forerunner on that corner.

Um so I would really like to ask that we look at that in further detail and not wait and then my question um really goes to JW Powell. part of it. The existing is at 40 miles an hour and the new extension will be at 35. And I'm wondering if we have looked at making it all one um speed limit and I would advocate for the 35 m mile per hour um speed limit. Have you looked at into that? And I've sensed uh Steph Santana with traffic is ready to answer that question. Thank you. Good evening again.

Steph Santana, Transportation Engineering. um to touch on your first comment. So, this project is actually not meeting the thresholds to require a full-blown traffic statement or a TIA. Um the threshold is 100 trips in the peak hour. They're at 56. So, this was a reszone. So, they were required to put together their trips, um look at that trip generation, and we actually required them to do a right turn lane warrant analysis.

So, this project is required to add a right turn lane southbound into the site off of Lonree. As for the intersection of Zouri and Lonree, it just didn't trigger um the need to study that intersection. It's not proportional to the size of this project. Um the second question that you asked was JWP speeds. I think that'll be covered um with that JWP project looking looking at um you know when the city does their section of JWP. I believe we'll assess that when that time comes.

We haven't um put that into any studies or or changed the speed limit currently, but I would imagine if we are posting it 35 for the section that you just referred to, we would probably change it um for the rest of it as well if it's the same feel. Okay. Thank you. And can you expand a little bit looking into the future? If we can't do the traffic study now, what does trigger that or how do we monitor to know when that study can occur? Thank you.

Um, so there are two large projects that will be looking at this intersection. So the state trust land 405 acres. This intersection is in their TIA to look at as well as Juniper Point. They're both working on a master TIA that includes um large portions up and down Lone Tree. So this intersection will be studied with those project. And I do think Ben mentioned that we have a project and funding um to to study and then funding to actually build the widening of of Lone Tree.

Um there's the three different stages. So right now we're working on the overpass as you are all aware of. Um and then the next chunk will be um Olyri to Pineol and then the last chunk is Pine Nol to JWP. So um that will be studied. I believe there's actually funds in this budget year to study that that portion of of Lone Tree and this intersection will be included. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Matthews. Thank you, Mayor. I have questions for both uh Ben and Tom.

Um Tom, I think you um already gave me the answer, but I just wanted it repeated. Um because it's going to go to a fair item that I'll be bringing up later. Um you said you've been working on this for two to three years. So you've been working on this project and you were required to do site plan or I mean you came a long way and you don't even know if you get a reszone yet, right? Yeah, that's that's part of the process.

Yeah, it's um again adding cost to you know affordability issues across really the nation. Um even in Texas, you know, twoish plus years to get approvals on a project. It's very costly and and I'm guessing a few hundred,000. Oh, maybe more. Much much more. Yeah, thank you. That I just needed that sound bite for later. It's Yeah, it's it's around um I'll just be transparent. It's around $2 million that we've spent to date on design and engineering.

And that doesn't include interest costs, carry costs, payroll. I mean, it's it adds up. It's a lot. It's a lot of money. And you don't even have I have investors who yell at me all the time about time time. So, it's it's it's a challenge. Thank you for that. And then, um, and I might jump back and forth, Ben. Um, I was just curious. I know that um we've been the city we've been working on a pilot program to re-evaluate our resource protection overlay with new science and the concerns with fire.

Um I love that this developer has um incorporated some fire resistant roofing and stuff that's so critical. Um, and I think I've asked that question in the past, the cost and stuff, but um, is the required resource protection overlay percentage that is used on this project, is that using the old, um, existing um, ordinance or is this in the pilot program where we're reducing that? So, yeah, this site is not using the pilot program.

And then also um because I live in that area um I'm just trying to this is just for my own curiosity the bus stop across the street. So there's a big ditch um across the street on um um Zoneyi. So um and I'm assuming the the developer is just doing the construction, not easements or anything. So is that going to be on the road? I'm assuming the road side of the the ditch, which isn't a lot of room. Let me see if Steph is still here. Thank you. Hi, thank you.

Um, so that bus stop on the north side of Zouri will actually fall within Rightway. Um, we've placed it in a location that doesn't fall in the ditch and doesn't go into the road. So, we've um, the developer has been um, very kind in in working that out and adding a little bit of sidewalk to connect to that bus stop. So it is falling within right away that pad and don't sit down. Okay, I think this next question.

So, one of the one of the things that triggered me or encouraged me to run for city council several years ago was watching a city council meeting where um that um council um had a very robust discussion on the low lone tree overpass and intersection and I believe if I'm correct there was some redesign um encouraged at that point after I don't know how much money was spent um and I remember distinctively just like I can see this gentleman he was a consultant from San Diego uh talking about if you build it they will come so don't build um the intersection and overpass to accommodate the anticipated track um traffic flow so um I believe if my memory serves me right um the redesign um was would cause um traffic backed up to from Lone Tree and Butler.

And now I'm listening to this and I I'm not going to question you guys as experts in the traffic, but I'm just now that we are developing all this stuff off JWP Pal and this this uh project here.

Um, you know, was when when we did that redesign, was that all factored in that at one point we're going to have hundreds more housing units and all this extra traffic and that was going to result in the 15 minutes to get through that intersection and then back up to the 40 or is this something that is now came up and and that's going to be an additional factor. Does that make sense? I I think so. I'll try to tackle that.

Um, so the study of the Lone Tree overpass, I wasn't quite in that when that first happened, but to my knowledge, they did use the regional plan and assumed, you know, Juniper Point and STL and all these large projects that are south of town are coming. Um, I I think the someone needs to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the big um great thing about the Lone Tree overpass is actually alleviating traffic um from um Milton actually.

So, taking some of the traffic off of Milton and and using this as another cross versus just going under the um the railroad tracks. So, I I to answer your question, I I do believe when the study was done, they were assuming these developments were happening down on this southern empty part of town. Thank you um for that. Just because I have a personal interest since that's the road I use and it will it will be studied further for those projects.

Um then just a curiosity um maybe Ben can answer this again just feeding my curiosity. It sounded like a observation deck um would be really cool like so why was the neighborhood concerns like why did we not want to do that? I mean that's part of the LOL's Observatory attraction that we have a rooftop over there. So, uh, Tom was in the neighborhood meeting where that was discussed. Okay.

So, in the first meeting, um, and and by the way, your the residents were very informed in all of our meetings that we've done. Very informed residents. Uh, one of the concerns was line of sight, right? So, our our buildings don't encumber the line of sight from the the adjacent communities. The observation deck, I think, debatable because it's essentially was a pyramid style. Mark, give me a two or three story um deck that would overlook the entire site.

So if there was one thing that could have encumbered the line of sight, it was that and and we had diagrams that sort of show that. So um you know, and in asking them what what would they like, they they decided that they did not want anything in the parks, just keep it trails. Um and so we we leaned in into that and and removed the observation deck. And and by the way, my GC was thankful because he said it was a impossible feat anyways. So cool. But I'm with you.

Yeah, that was just curious because I thought, "Oh, wow. That'd be really cool." Um, then lastly, um, and it you probably may have already just had these in your design, but, um, as I'm getting more informed and educated about, um, how we go through the planning and zoning process with our developers and, um, understanding that our state doesn't allow us to require uh, certain amenities like electric and EV plugs and stuff.

Was that um in your original design or was that part of the horse trading um that went back and forth? Well, again, I mean um well, and just to interject, I asked this because I have concerns about cost of build to then the affordable housing component. Yeah. I mean, one, it's it's somewhat expected in new homes, at least where I where I come from. Um and then two, I actually designed this community as well as where I want to live. So, you know, and Mark knows that.

So, there are elements in here that I I wanted and I appreciate the EV hookups and whatnot. I appreciate all the enormous windows that cost a lot of money. I did want the observation deck. I did want the wellness center. So, these are some of my own selfish ones. Um, but I think if you look at the trends on motor transportation and what we're seeing, EV is kind of a needed um accessory to housing.

Uh, and then one of the things that we leaned into that was also somewhat risky and not advised with other developers in the area is to not have any gas. And so both the electric and the EV front was one of our ways to to do that. Thank you. I It looks like a a beautiful project and um you know, I've been wondering what was going to go on that corner for some time, so it's good to see it. Well, not a gas station. Not a gas station. Thank you, Council Member Spence. Thank you, mayor.

Um, before I got on the city council, I was driving a school bus for three years and my route twice a day took me to the Zouri Lone Tree intersection. And I agree with Vice Mayor Suite that this is a very problematic intersection, especially when Cookanino Community College students are um turning into CCC. uh traffic backs up on Zonyi and I I appreciate that widening of of Loan Tree to make it a a better road um both for residents and for college students. That that's a big project.

Lone Tree is a long road and to make that all into a four-lane uh road or to improve the two lanes that are there is a very big project long term. But I can see a tremendous benefit to an early roundabout at Zouri and Laundry. And I I think there should be a way to design and build a a roundabout that would improve the existing u traffic that would improve the improved traffic that comes from uh from Pine Haven that would be compatible with eventual uh improvements of Lone Tree.

So, I I would request that this doesn't impede the reszoning request, but I would request that the city look at um the um construction of a roundabout to improve Zouri lone tree traffic. And my question for the developer, on one of your bullet points, it said there's dedicated right of way to facilitate future roadway improvements. Is that dedicated rightway? Would that apply to a roundabout at Lunian Lree? St. Santana with traffic. Thank you, Ben.

Um so there has actually been a study done by Metrop Plan um I have it right here some environmental study planning and environmental linkages. So um Metropan has already completed a study um of that intersection. It might even include the intersection of Lone Train JWP and it recommends a roundabout I believe at both of those intersections. Um so that is what is uh planned for I would imagine the widening when it's studied we'll we will also study it.

Um, as for right of way, I don't have it in front of me, but I I have a feeling we've already got a lot um in that area, and I actually would probably assume that we have enough to put a roundabout in there. Um, but I would have to we that's a good question. We can consider that when I'm looking at the plat again. Thank you. I just I think it's a beautiful development and I think if the traffic issues can be resolved um it it it's a great addition to our community.

Thank you, Council Member Garcia. Thank you, Madame Mayor. And not to add to the scrum, but I will dogpile slightly on Vice Mayor's comment only to get some clarification. So I will not be duplicative but uh in looking at you know the crossing there I didn't see any outlines for crosswalks they there was some mention that there's access to the urban trail but but I'm trying to remember exactly where the urban trail comes out there there.

So I was wondering since you guys are not going to be doing any traffic treatments in other words I'm assuming that means you're not going to be putting even a crosswalk light right there. Will there be at least a crosswalk so folks can cross that street uh from um east to west or north to south? That's antana open. Um so I believe with the recent road repair street safety project I think they just came out here and did zony like an overlay.

Um they actually striped a crosswalk on the west leg so across Zouri. Um, as for crosswalks across Loan Tree, there's warrant analyses that need to be met um, in order to stripe a crosswalk. It's not as simple as, hey, here's a crosswalk. We're just going to stripe a white a a white thing across the road. It's actually quite unsafe on a road with these speeds, a road with these grades.

So, um, there would have to be a warrant analysis conducted to determine if it would warrant, and it would likely be more than just a striped crosswalk if one were warranted here. So, a one of the RFBs or one of the PHBs, it's a lot of acronyms, but either the flashing lights or the red the red that actually stops traffic.

So, um that is not required of this project to to conduct one of those with their um thresholds not meeting for that TIA, but it will be studied um with these upcoming projects. Thank you for the clarification. That helps me a lot. And then um so so was I was I was I wrong when they said that there would be access to the urban trail. So the urban trail I believe is the one you're referring to on the north side of Zouri. Um I don't really know how that ends right now at at at a loan tree.

Have to pull up an aerial. I I don't think they're doing any improvements on that side. they will be putting the the um bus pull out just to the west of Masonic on the north side of the road with a short section of sidewalk. So other than that there there will be no new connections to the to the urban trail. Okay, thank you. I guess uh my next question would be for Tom. Thank you. And Tom, thank you for this project.

I've uh followed it a little bit here and there um seeing seeing some of the meetings that you've attended and I'm happy about the project. I like all the progressive kind of notions that you took upon yourself to get it to where it's at and to add this type of community to Flag Staff. On that note, and I really don't want you to take this the wrong way. It's seriously a question. Sure. Like I'm really I'm really I'm not concerned, but I'm really wondering. I'm a big equity guy.

You know, I'm always concerned with how lowincome people can mingle with the rest, you know, the the people who make lots of money. So, um, while I I I really really appreciate your contribution to affordable housing, um, but what spurred that decision as opposed to just adding some units here for those who can't will never be able to afford a place like this? Yeah. And again, I'm I'm a straight shooter. Um, so I'm happy to share economics of our plan here.

So, um, land and just civil cost aside from permits, soft costs before we get into actually building vertical, um, is just around $180,000 per unit. Okay? You start adding in materials and labor there. There's just no way, at least for me, that I can get um, a home under $400,000. Now, I don't know how to do the craftsmanship of a Dr. Horton or LAR that can do low quality. U there might be a way but I I don't have the means to do that.

So for us it was it was a decision of okay well obviously you know if there's a way to optimize by building 10 units that do make money it allows us to do things like the wellness center whatot because that's very expensive. So um I mean that center alone is $ three and a half million dollars. Okay. Okay.

So, if I want to do those kind of things and do the things like the EV um you know, stations and all the programs um and not have short-term rentals, I have to really derisk the project and I do that by optimizing on the economics. So, and that's just the honest the honest answer. I really appreciate that.

So, so, um, I'm not putting words into your mouth, but what I take out of that is that you're trying to put the the dollars where they could count most 100% into a project that, you know, could fulfill many more beds than you could ever offer at the place where you're at right now. Yeah. And I would actually take it a step further.

In all of our council meetings across all of our projects, we always say there's a bucket of money and we want to invest it in parks and the wellness center and the amenities and the quality of the homes. We can do things like traffic improvements and we can do things like or you can do things like affordable housing. You just dilute the entire project and then you really got to question well where where's your focus?

Well, I think you guys are doing um we're going above and beyond with the affordable piece here. So, I didn't want to minimize what you guys are doing. I just needed that question answered and it was great great answer and a great project. Thank you for bringing it to Flagstaff. All right, council. I don't see any additional questions, so I'm going to take public comment. Mary Norton. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, I wrote you an email and I'm so thrilled that obviously you've read it.

Um, I am a I back up. I am a community member. I live in Pinnacle Bines. I serve on planning and zoning. Um, I found this process to be really refreshing. Um, I want to commend uh Tom Stab and his team. They were very receptive and responsive to not only the neighborhood, the community community as a whole, the Flag Staff needs. And like I said, in my experience in the development in my development career as well as my civic engagement, I find it really refreshing.

Um, and I'm so glad that you're having this conversation about the traffic. And so, you know, what I had summarized is what I was hoping to see happen is a reduction in speed on the streets that are surrounding this project and the greater area as well as mitigation to the Zouri and Lone Tree um intersection because, as we've all agreed, it's dangerous. Now, they've done their part and that it didn't trigger a TIA.

The problem is, and I think we even saw that in their case prior tonight, things happen. These TIAs are done years prior things happen and it doesn't trigger anything. Um the other piece the um towns on loan tree that has a 25year-old development agreement for 210 units and we've seen a couple applications. There's one in there now. We know that will be 210 units.

If I recall the earlier ones that didn't trigger a mitigation at Lone Tree and Sunni either so what has happened since then is Juniper Point is growing, Pine Canyon is growing. Um, all of this is growing and we don't have a way to make that a safer intersection in the meantime for the next three years, five years, maybe it's even 10 years before that all gets fixed.

So, I would hope that whether it's the roundabout may that might not be cost-effective, but at least make it a four-way stop, put in a protected crosswalk there, something to that effect. And as well as now that Zouri is becoming more residential that that entire uh strand of Zonyi in front of this project gets reduced to 25 miles per hour. Um that JW PAL is now made consistent and gets slower to 35 and something gets done with Lone Tree because it's too fast, too icy.

There's just more and more traffic, more and more construction traffic, which will come with this project, as well as everything else that's going on in that whole JW PAL corridor. And keep in mind, until there's that connection from to Fourth Street, everything on that side of town, the only way they can get into town is either going up Lone Tree or going down Lake Mary. So, Lake Mary serves everyone well, but boy, Lone Tree can be really dangerous. So, thank you for reading my email.

Thank you for my comments. I appreciate the discussion. Thank you. I see no additional public comment. So, I am going to close the public hearing and I just want to add my thanks. I really I love to hear the attention to design and the attention to um I mean maybe maybe um you have our our carbon neutrality plan in mind with the electric and the um EV chargers, but to us it's a big deal as is the connectivity for the trails. So, these are all um things that we'd love to see in a project.

So, thank you. Um, I want to thank PNZ for the amount of work that that you put into considering this and for the recommendations that you made to us. Um, I just I don't think we thank you enough. So, thank you. I know there's just one of you in here, but if anyone's watching, um, thank you. Uh, so I will entertain a motion to read the ordinance by title for the first time. Mayor, I'd like to I apologize. Um, Council Member House. Thank you, Mayor.

Um, yeah, I just wanted to add my thanks to both the uh to Ben and the city team for this presentation, to the planning and zoning commission, and to the developer for all the work that's gone into this. I think this project is a really good indicator of what can happen when we truly work as community to uh bring these types of projects to Flag Staff and uh work together in that way. So, thank you all for the contributions to that.

And with that, I would also like to move that we read ordinance number 2025-17 by title only for the first time. Can I get a second? I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I I Any opposed? City clerk.

An ordinance of the city council of the city of Flagstaff amending the Flagstaff zoning map to reszone approximately 13.82 2 acres real property generally located at 2951 South Masonic Lane APN 103-26-00002D from the rural residential RR zone in the resource protection overlay and suburban commercial SC zone in the resource protection overlay to the medium density residential MR zone in the resource protection overlay with conditions providing for se severability authority for clerical corrections and establishing effective Thank you very much.

Thank you, Ben. Thank you. And I would just like to state that uh the second read for this is scheduled for September 2nd. Uh it didn't clear the routing in time. So I will be back on September 2nd asking for a continuence for that item to to move to September 16. Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you. And um for the audience, just to let you know, after this next public hearing item, I'm going to call a 15 minute break.

So, we're moving down to item 13B and I am going to open the public hearing for this item. Hello. Good evening, mayor and city council. Erin Young. I'm here on behalf of water services with Rick Tatter in management services. And we have a ordinance for your consideration and adoption uh to Flagstaff City Code uh the water system regulations for two capacity fees that were mistyped by I think it was me in July 2024. and we're asking those be corrected and we're here if you have any questions.

Thank you. Okay. Um council, any questions? We have discussed this um previously, right, that we needed to do this. So um and we have no public comment. So, I see no questions from council, no public comment. So, I will close the public hearing and um we can deliberate or someone can make a motion. Council member Matthews, thank you, Mayor Erin. Thank you for getting me the information that I asked for. I really appreciate it.

So, I'd like to move that we read ordinance number 2025-18 by title only for the first time. I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Any opposed? Uh, city clerk.

An ordinance of the city council of the city of Flagstaff amending title 7 health and sanitation chapter 7-03 city water system regulations of the Flagstaff city code by amending section 7-03-00001-0011 water main capacity charges providing for penalties repeal of conflicting ordinances severability and establishing an effective date. Thank you. All right, we are going to um have a 15minute break and when we return I was still talking. All right, I'll see you in 15 minutes.

All right, we're ready to That's right, Council Member House. You do get bonus points. We are ready to get started on our regular agenda. Item 14A is consideration and adoption of ordinance number 2025-15. So um hello. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Bryce Dodie, your real estate manager. Today, I am here to present an ordinance authorizing acquisition for some additional public utility easements needed to construct the Wildcat sewer interceptor upgrade project.

Um, this is the exhibit B of the ordinance and we've got three additional um, parcels where we need additional public utilities. So, we have existing lines in there. We're expanding those. We need about 15 feet on the south side of these lines to put the new lines in. And so, it's going to affect Cookino County. It's going to affect the United Metro Materials. That's the CX plant there right here.

And it's going to affect the parcel that was state land but was recently purchased um by an entity, El Paso Road Land LLC. And so this uh ordinance is going to authorize us to do what we need to do to acquire those public utility easements. And that's all I have available for any questions. Council, do you have any questions or comments? And there is no public comment. All right. Well, I will entertain a motion to read the ordinance by title only for the first time.

Mayor, I would like to move that we uh read the ordinance 2025-8 by title only for the first time. Did you say it's 15-15? Yes. Thank you. 202515. Is there a second? I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Thank you, Bryce. Next thing. B, consideration and adoption of ordinance number 2025-14. Can I read the ordinance really quick? Oh, no. Yes, please. Please, would you read the ordinance?

An ordinance of the city council of the city of Flagstaff authorizing the acquisition of real property interests for the Wildcat Interceptor sewer upsizing project, providing for delegation of authority, providing for severability, authority for clerical corrections, and establishing an effective date. That was well said. All right. B. Consideration and adoption of ordinance number 2025-14. Hello again. Good evening, mayor and council. Bryce Dodie, your real estate manager.

This ordinance uh so routinely whenever we receive easements and real property from uh as a result of the development process. So if somebody comes in and they need um we need a waterline easement and for in order for them to do their project, we receive that. Um all real property that the city receives needs to be accepted by ordinance. And so we routinely bundle up all of those and put it on one ordinance. And that is what this ordinance is doing tonight.

And I'm happy to address any questions you might have. Council, do you have any questions? No public comment. I will entertain a motion to read the ordinance by title only for the first time. Mayor, I'd like to move that we read ordinance number 2025-14 by title only for the first time. I'll second. Any discussion? All those in favor? I I. Any opposed? City clerk.

An ordinance of the city council of the city of Flagstaff ratifying the grant of easements and formally accepting dedications of easements and real property interests, providing for severability, authority for clerical corrections, and establishing an effective date. Thank you. Moving down to discussion items. 15A is an introduction to virtual power purchase agreements. Good evening, mayor and council. Uh I'm Jenny Neiman, climate action section director. Here's Nicole.

Was she just vamping while you got down here? Great. Well, good evening, mayor and council. Fun fact, you don't have to make a decision on this item. This is anformational update for the council on virtual power purchase agreements. So, it's good to see you. I hope you enjoyed your break. I'm here this evening with Eric Nielsen, who is the chief sustainability officer at Northern Arizona University. as well as the professor of environmental science and policy.

I am here to introduce the variety of opportunities afforded through a virtual power purchase agreement framework and how it could complement the city's commitment to clean energy. The presentation is divided into four sections. I will brief briefly touch on commitments to clean energy, then provide a high-level introduction to virtual power purchase agreements, the role they can play within the city's commitments, and next steps for exploring cost-effective options for the city of Flagstaff.

The city has a long commitment to clean energy dating back several years. It started with direction from the former city council to become a 100% renewable energy city as an organization and as a community. Then the city formalized its adoption of clean energy through the climate action and adaptation plan followed by the carbon neutrality plan. There are several models to support clean energy goals an organization can use.

variety of them, including agency-owned power purchase agreements, renewable energy credits, also known as clean energy credits. You'll hear people go back and forth between that terminology, as well as virtual power purchase agreements. I'm pleased to say that the city currently utilizes three options um listed here on this slide already. We are here this evening to talk about virtual power purchase agreements.

This graph provided by the clean energy buyers association offers a snapshot of the various models used to achieve clean energy goals. I offer this graphic only to give context to the trajectory of increased demand for clean energy. You can see from 2014 to 2024, corporate clean energy procurement through power purchase agreements, clean energy credits or renewable energy credits, equity investments, and direct ownership grew exponentially to over 100 gigawatts.

Virtual power purchase agreements are an important tool in the clean energy landscape. But before we dive in to virtual power purchase agreements, let's talk about power purchase agreements. I would like to walk you through a power purchase agreement, which I'll refer to as a PPA, um, which is an energy contract between an energy user and a clean energy project developer. The user guarantees the purchase of the energy produced for a fixed price for a fixed duration of time.

Typically, the buyer has available land to host a project which is used as an anchor in the fixed pricing. These contracts usually span from 10 to 25 years. The city entered into its first power purchase agreement in 2011. We were one of first in the state of Arizona. Through that PPA, the city has three renewable energy projects at the aquiplex, city hall, and Wildcat wa wastewater treatment facility.

At each location, the city owns the land and the third party, in this case is Clearway, owns the systems that produce the energy which the city purchases at a fixed price. This slide offers a deeper dive into the city's current PPA. The graphic on the left represents the power purchase agreements, energy and financial flows. On the right hand side of the slide are the size of each systems and the economic framework of each. So you'll see at the aquiplex we have a roof mounted system.

The system is just a little bit over 93 kilowatts. We pay just over 11 cents a kilow excuse me a kilowatt hour. APS pricing averages at.138 cents per kilowatt hour. So you can see the savings. I would like to add that all of these are average prices of APS because price prices can fluctuate during the day. So to ease complexity, I'm just using an average. At city hall, the parking canopies host a 201 kilowatt hour system.

we pay 0.124 um cents per kilowatt hour where the average APS cost is almost 0.15 cents per kilowatt hour. And then at Wildcat, this is our largest system. It's 568 kilowatts. It's a tracking ground mount system and we pay uh just a little bit over 10 cents a kilowatt hour where the APS average is just a bit over 12 cents a kilowatt hour. So this gives you a good idea of the economics of a power purchase agreement. So power purchase agreements offer a variety of pros.

They have long-term price stability, 20 years in our case, by locking in on energy costs and reducing exposure to market volatility. They also mitigate risk as the developer assumes most financial and operational responsibility. their incentive to generate and deliver energy reliability is directly tied to their revenue stream. So in the city's power purchase agreement, we retain land ownership and main direct relationship with the energy supplier which minimizes the risk of supply disruptions.

So if there's a challenge or a problem at one of our systems, we can make a quick phone call and they'll come up to fix the system. Additionally, our PPA developed new renewable energy systems to be deployed, which is a critical component of our climate goals. VPPAS are an effective way for organizations to support Oh, excuse me. Sorry, I have Yep. One slide up. There we go. Um, it's been a while for me as well. Um, now let's add the virtual concept to the power purchase agreement.

With a power purchase agreement, the buyer purchases the energy at a specified delivery point such a me as a meter or it's sent to the energy grid. With a virtual power purchase agreement or VPA, the energy is sold on the open wholesale market. VPPAS can be used for clean energy production or purchasing renewable energy credits to achieve clean energy goals.

So, VPPAS are an effective way for an organization to develop support the development of large-scale renewable energy projects even outside of their immediate region. These agreements help bring new clean energy onto the grid, reducing carbon emissions and improving air quality. These benefits directly support public health as well as the city's climate goals. VPPAS are also providing financial predictability by locking in the price of renewable energy credits.

By so, organizations can stabilize their costs and protect themselves from energy fluctuations. They can also offer an opportunity for collaboration. Cities can join other cities, for example, by joining a co-op to help negotiate better rates. This graphic provides a visual representation of the mechanics of a VPPA. What I'd like to invite the council to do is focus on the renewable energy credits aspect of this slide as this really is the main focus of our discussion today.

So summing this up, the the role of a virtual power purchase agreement um is allowing the city to procure cost-effective renewable energy credits to offset our electric consumption and maintain our clean energy commitments. The city currently purchased renewable energy credits through APS's green power partners program. The city was integral in getting this program initiated with APS and in fact we were its first customer.

However, there are more cost competitive mechanisms now available to procure these types of clean energy credits. Additionally, it's essential that the city support new clean energy development on the grid. As many of us have read the recent headlines about APS's response to the growing electric demand in Arizona, APS's announcement is in response to the significant increase due to the rise in data centers.

In late 2020 to excuse me, 24, APS CEO stated that their peak demand growth is rising at a rate 100 times faster for data centers than for any other type of power customers. This demand is anticipated to increase the strain on the grid and energy costs. As leaders, the city of Flagstaff should not rely on APS to be at the forefront of greening the grid.

From all accounts, they are behind in catching up with this demand, which means Flagstaff's leadership is even more critical to help fortify and bring new clean energy projects onto the grid. And there are some challenges that can occur with a virtual power purchase agreement. Mainly there is complexity with initial agreements because the clean energy is sold on the open market. There can be monthly pricing fluctuations. However, we already see this with the APS green power partners program.

There is also staff oversight. As a VPPA may be outside of APS's service territory. It may result in additional contracts. However, staff already manage additional contracts which I will discuss shortly. So, as I hinted to earlier, a VPPA can complement the city's ex existing commitments to clean energy. So, let's discuss how this will fit into the city's clean energy portfolio. And just a note, this is a photo from the Rio to flag wastewater treatment solar array.

This slide provides a snapshot of the city's current clean energy portfolio. As you can see, we have four elements of our portfolio. This is in alphabetical order. First, we have a contract through 2057 with the Arizona Power Authority, schedule D. We purchase roughly 850 megawatt hours a year from the energy that's generated at Hoover Dam. The operational cost that we see because of this contract is just a little bit over 35, excuse me, $38,000 annually.

Second, we purchase, as I mentioned, green power partner credits from APS at the cost of on average about $97,000 a year. This is the crux of our clean energy portfolio. We offset our electric use with renewable energy credits in the tune of about 36,000 megawatt hours a year. The third element of our portfolio are the systems that we own as a city.

We financed these systems at the aquipex, the parking canopies at the aquiplex, which I'm sure the council has seen, a system at Rio de Flag wastewater treatment facility, and an additional system at Wildcat wastewater treatment facility. These yield about,300 megawatt hours a year, and with a savings of just about $32,700 a year.

I would like to point out that those systems are financed through the year 2029 and according to the pro-forma, the city will start incurring significant savings in the year 2030, roughly about $176,000 a year. And then finally, the city is in contract, as I mentioned earlier, through a power purchase agreement through the year 2031. and we receive about 1,500 megawatt hours through the power purchase agreement. We see an operational savings of just under $33,000 a year.

So quick math, we are pretty much at a cost break even point with the expenditures for the renewable energy credits that we use through APS. The good news is that Flagstaff is not alone. We have a statewide consortium exploring the purchase of renewable energy credits through this collaboration of a virtual power purchase agreement consortium.

The Arizona consortium includes Arizona State University, the city of Flagstaff, Northern Arizona University, the city of Phoenix, the city of Sedona, and the city of Tempe. Each agency has a commitment to clean energy. We are incredibly fortunate from our local part that our local partner NAU, which also has a carbon neutrality by 2030 goal, has led this effort for the last two years. They hired an energy firm to facilitate the VPPA process.

And I'd like to take a moment to express my gratitude to NAU and specifically to Dr. Eric Nielsen for his time, his commitment, and the creation of an inclusive approach toward clean energy. So why a consortium? Well, it can leverage our collective commitments and increase economies of scale, which in turn increases options for a stronger financial package. Energy users in Arizona have the option to work with local utilities through approved green rates.

However, there are more cost competitive pricing options out there. Virtual power purchase agreements um with the collective electric need. the consortion can support the development of a very large renewable energy project. This photo is of a 200 megawatt solar project in Bell County, Texas. It's called the Big Elm Solar Project, which is one of the renewable energy projects that is being funded through a virtual power p purchase agreement consortium.

This project is expected to contribute towards generating an estimated 1.3 million megawatt hours of clean electricity a year. This Bostonbased area consortium is made up of universities, a health system, and members of regional groups of governments and nonprofits. And I can only imagine the complexity of all of those agreements. So, how do we move forward? On October 7th, I will present an intergovernmental agreement to the council for consideration.

The IGA will authorize NAU to issue a nonbinding solicitation on behalf of the consortium to procure price competitive renewable energy credits. Two important things that I want to point out that have been at the forefront of this initiative is that we want to prioritize regional participation from APS or SRP in this process. Secondly, we are going to open this to national energy markets favoring the southwest power pool.

Now, there are some images on the right hand side of the slide that offer snapshots of the wholesale markets across the country. In 2027, the Southwest Power Pool is going to open up and that is in the lower corner of the slide. So you can see that this power pool is actually quite ripe for opportunity for new development. On this slide, we are presenting just a draft timeline for the council's reference.

If the IGA is approved in October, NAU will proceed to issue a solicitation on behalf of this consortium. The consortium will then make up the review and scoring committee and begin negotiations for finalized pricing, at which point I would then return to the council for approval to enter into a long-term contract for renewable energy credits with operational delivery expected in the year 2027 or 2028. With that council, I would like to ask Dr.

Nielsen if he has anything to add to the discussion and putting him on the spot. and giving myself an opportunity to Thanks, Nicole. Uh, mayor, council members, um, it's been a really, um, I really appreciate Nicole bringing this. It's the first city that's heard of the consortium that we've been working with, the sustainability directors, um, from Phoenix, from Sky Harbor, from Tempee, uh Sedona and uh ASU.

um looking at the challenges of meeting our clean energy goals and what are the options that are available. And I guess I just one thing in the IG that we just emphasize what Nicole said because we're in a monopoly uh with utilities in Arizona. The the idea is not we're not going to not talk to APS. We've all been talking to APS and trying to work with APS uh for clean energy solutions. The idea is that we'll have competition with APS.

So, we'll see what's out in in the marketplace, ask APS what they can offer us, and and see, then we'll have a decision. Do we move forward working with our our local utilities? Um, but in the end, the climate doesn't care where we're getting rid of carbon emissions. So, if we get rid of carbon emissions in uh New Mexico, if we get rid of them in Utah, if we get rid of them in uh Oklahoma, it's better for the climate. and we get the credit for reducing those emissions in the United States grid.

And that's u I think a really important thing to think about kind of in terms of the geography of what these solutions might look like.

But um NAU administration uh we are sort of fully committed to uh both uh bringing on outside counsel that would represent everyone and that will be in the the language of the IGA um and and working with our consultants and taking kind of the upfront cost of of this development and developing the idea uh and and getting us to a point where we can make a good cost-effective solution. So, look forward to showing you the in six weeks or something. Uh, Council Member Matthews has a question.

Thank you, Mayor. So, um, I just want to make sure I understand. Um, because I thought I understood until we have comment. It's nice seeing you again. Um, so this what we're moving towards is similar to buying um, clean energy credits. Like we're not We're not going to buy the energy that's clean and use it here.

So, in our carbon neutrality plan, um does it specify, you know, my understanding and belief always was to reduce our carbon emissions in Flagstaff, not in New Mexico, not in Canada or wherever. So, how does this align with our carbon neutrality plan? Thank you for that question, Council Member Matthews. So, renewable energy credits, we have as bringing these forward for council's consideration a few years back, um recognizing you were not on the council at that time.

This we recognized as a first step towards cleaning our energy and our commitment to clean energy. We have not identified funding to identify renewable energy projects as a city organization oursel and with this initiative we feel that we have a unique opportunity one as we continue on that path to use clean energy credits to offset our 36,000 megawatt hours annually of energy that we consume. We would rather it be a coste effective purchase for the city organization.

So with that in mind, the ultimate goal is yes that we one day will be able to have a large-scale renewable energy project that is regional that we are directly receiving that energy from. But at this point in time, we just don't have that luxury. So I'm working and as Dr.

Neielson stated, "We have an opportunity to move towards a consortium that would allow us to ensure that we are getting the most cost-effective projects um excuse me, cost-effective renewable energy credits for the city organization." And I'll just go back up to this slide. So, at the tune of spending $100,000 a year, if we can reduce that to $20,000, that will allow us to redirect funding for other opportunities to improve efficiency.

meantime, in the meantime, we are looking at other opportunities for renewable energy projects that are more localized, right? And and I've been on some of those conversations, so we're hopeful. So just again to to clarify because this is not my wheelhouse. Um this would replace in theory the uh GPP where it's costing us an additional $100,000 a year to purchase clean renewable energy um I think in New Mexico.

Um and this if we move forward with this that cost that line item will be hopefully reduced and the other projects in our portfolio then we'd actually I guess what I'm getting at is our net we have a net gain of um not net cost growth but cost savings correct right now we're we're about zero we break even um and it would be fantastic if we could actually incur savings and especially when you look that um and I I went back up to our portfolio slide.

If you look at our city-owned systems when we brought when I brought forward this program uh project specific to the council at the time focusing on year 2030 and when the city really starts to incur savings at the end of life for this these three systems for example we expect and as as pencled out in the proforma a savings of well over a million dollars um at the lifetime of the project. So we know there's tremendous opportunity.

Again, this is about uh the overarching benefits of the consortium equally as creating an opportunity for the city to save money on the renewable energy credits we are currently buying through APS, which will then free up money so we can do other projects. I like that part. Yeah. Council member Garcia. Thank you, mayor, and thank you for the presentation.

This is a really interesting and intriguing uh way to kind of depart from where we're currently at, and it seems to have more uh rewards potentially. So I guess my question is is under the under what we're doing currently with APS and the GPP, is there um a riskto-reward ratio as it feels to me like there will be with this next project? Um, of course leaning towards reaping the rewards of it, but what's the dichotomy between the risk and reward for what we have and where we're going?

Council member Garcia, thank you. Um, I think the the most important thing in terms of risk and reward and and I'll ask Dr. Nielsen if he has anything to contribute when I'm finished is the way that Dr. Nielsen has set this up with the solicitation coming out of NA creating space and time for negotiations.

It's going to afford us as an organization to look at what number of course if the council approves the IGA but um if we move forward with the solicitation it will provide us this opportunity again the consortium is an economy of scale um and as we see here pardon me um oh I went too far but as you see here we have through this consortium a pretty buying co-op. Um we're talking, you know, approximately 666,000 megawatt hours a year.

And so that should anchor us in a price friendly um opportunity. So from a risk um versus reward, I feel that because we have a lot of experience under our belt with these other contracts and sorry I'm flipping through everything so quickly. We have a fair amount of experience since 2011 negotiating energy contracts and navigating staff time to with the oversight. I feel that the reward will outweigh any risk. Uh that's just my professional opinion. Eric, would you like to add anything?

One thing I I think also something to keep in mind in terms of the the risk, we might say we're first in this space to go into this type of contract. However, both the council that we're going to bring on uh the retain council and our sister institution ASU, they actually entered into one of these. they were at the forefront of virtual power purchase agreements quite a while ago.

So, as a as a as a state university, we have experience entering into these types of contracts and we're going to be working with an attorney who has done hundreds of these. So, I feel very confident that if we find an attractive project, we can come to terms that would actually, you know, meet the consortium's needs. And one one other question is um does this like sever any relationship with APS or how what does it do to our relationship currently with APS? Yes, thank you Council Member Garcia.

We are in a monthly contract with APS for the Green Power Partners program. So, we wouldn't be violating um any contracts and um as we see in the timeline um if everything moves forward as we anticipate, we would not start receiving or purchasing those renewable energy credits until 2027 or 2028, which will give us ample time to to work with APS if we were to discontinue the green power partners program. Excellent. Thank you for that.

Um, while rather speculative, I'm encouraged by this uh program to actually benefit us u monetarily locally and putting that money back into our u renewable energy economy or whatever that looks like as far as the sustainability department is concerned here. Um that's that's kind of a no-brainer for me. So, I'm looking forward to um getting more information and um the vote on this in the future. Great. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I just had a quick comment.

I wanted to thank Nicole and Jenny for walking this walking me through this a couple of weeks ago and great presentation. I I definitely understand it and that's incredible. Um and I'm thankful for our partners for helping us add to our portfolio. I think it's very important. So, thank you. All right. Any additional questions, comments? Thank you. Thank you for all the work that has gone into this. Thank you.

All right, moving down to land availability and suitability study and code analysis project lovingly referred to as last cap. Take it away. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um, sorry, I am It's been after the break. I forgot how to put this in pres presentation mode. Thank you. Wow, I'm a year older since the last time I was here and clearly less technical technically stabby. Okay. Good evening, mirror and council.

Um I'm Michelle McNeli, planning and development service director for the city of Flagstaff and I'm here this evening with our land availability suitability last cap team. Um Tiffany Antl, zoning code manager. Genevieve Par three sustainability analyst. Jenny Neman, climate section director, and Jennifer Michaelelsson, housing planning manager. We are back here this evening to seek council direction on the six discussion points um in the draft code concepts report.

Based on this direction, staff will direct the consultant team to recommend specific code amendments to update core development standards and incentives to be included in the final code amendment report. A comment was received this afternoon stating that a big thing missing from the last cap proposal is changes to the way that community development now planning and development services conducts this business and suggests that staff believes we are doing things right.

I would argue quite the contrary that staff knows that we have 30 years of lagging development code updates and decades of shifting policy that have contributed to our current um development patterns and housing cost. Staff is acutely aware that we cannot do business as usual and that we need to change as an entire city how we conduct business. The very nature of what we are doing with the last cast project last cat project demonstrates this.

So, as WA staff walks through the decision points and staff recommendations based on public outreach, you're going to see a common thread. We are recommending big changes to meet our critical housing and climate goals. Much of what we are recommending changes sorry much of what we are recommending changes zoning code. It is not holding back and we can achieve by right development the community wants.

These code changes are essential to making the reszone process more streamlined and efficient and less dependent on requiring a site plan, which adds time and cost to an already lengthy process. I wrote these notes prior to the presentation earlier um and did not paid Tom to say any of the things that he did. So, just a reminder of the goals um that are really setting the stage for the last cap project.

We have the 10-year housing plan that aims to reduce the affordable housing need in our community by half over the next 10 years through um impacting at least 6,000 low to moderate income Flagstaff residents. And that's through a creation of unit creation or combination of unit creation and subsidy provision um and creating or preserving almost 8,000 housing units by 2031 with a minimum of 10% of those being affordable.

And we know we have a enormous goal of trying to become carbon neutral neutral by 2030 through a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Zoning is only one piece of several needed to reduce housing cost. A development is only built if it is economically feasible, which means that the cost to rent or sell a residential product must be greater than the cost to build it.

While zoning can impact the cost of development, as noted earlier, and again not tipped off to do that, if labor and construction cost or interest rates are high, zoning um zoning changes alone may not result in affordable rents in sales prices. But that does not mean that zoning um changes are not significant and worthwhile. For example, some building types are more expensive to construct than others due to development code requirements.

Changing these requirements can do can reduce the cost of construction. Zoning can uh reduce the amount of permit fees or shorten review timelines and increase review certainty and it can allow a developer to spread land cost across more units. So think high density. Lower parking requirements can enable a lower cost construction type um or influence unit size.

And as mentioned earlier about the different costs that go into it, you can see that there are several different things that do go into the cost of a house. Zoning being a small part of that, but a very important one. So with all this said, it is important that the code changes that we bring forward represent input from a wide wide range of the community. This team has met with numerous boards, commissions, community groups, the development community, and members of the public.

Public engagement culminated with the June 13th community conversation framing our future together. We had over 80 attendees, including developers, elected officials past and present, members of the community, housing advocates, climate advocates, realtors, city staff, and members from city commissions. This group included familiar faces and new faces, all bringing valuable perspective and input that have been that have informed the recommendations that staff will be discussing with you tonight.

And with that, we have Tiffany is going to start with the first decision point. Hi, thank you so much. Uh, tonight we're going to talk go through each of these decision points. Um the first up is all of the three points you see here in reference to density. So the draft code concepts report provides alternative for code updates that address some of the most significant barriers identified in the code diagnostic report.

These alternatives focus on these core inter interrelated use regulations and development standards that can have the greatest influence on the housing and climate act outcomes of new development and redevelopment in Flagstaff. These core standards include regulations and housing types by zoning district, maximum densities, um floor area ratio and so forth. Um, we want to just cover really quickly the general themes that we heard out of the community conversation.

And essentially concerns were raised about the current restrictions um on density in the rural residential zone and estate residential zones with many advocating for increased base density in these zones to streamline development and avoid time consuming reszoning processes. Uh the planned residential development tool was discussed as a way to preserve land for future density, but some felt it may be unnecessary if base densities were increased.

Uh that there's a desire to simplify the development process to make it easier to build high or higher density and support a broader mix of housing. So there is support um for increasing density um also about increasing density by itself um uh will increase new housing or if density increases need to be paired with other tools to ensure housing affordability. Uh there are concerns about infrastructure costs and fire risks uh for development in forested areas.

So with council support, staff will direct the consultant to explore examining base density increases for all zoning districts excluding the R1N zone. The R1N zone already has a much higher density allowance. It's essentially the equivalent of medium density residential. So it already was set at a higher limit. Model the benefits of increasing density within the RR zone. So there are a lot of pros and cons to changing the RR zone.

Um the concerns go with RR would lead to the need for future resonings to hit densities in our regional plan. Um and the densities we hope to ex expect um but again through the resoning process which we know can be a complicated and difficult and timeconuming process. Um uh the some of the cons would be just basically replacing one zoning district for another basically replacing R1 uh RR for R1 essentially and changing R1 to much higher.

Um, also in larger green field areas, if we were to just go in and change residential to residential without planning for other zoning types like commercial um, and multifamily, we could not see the mix of housing types or other land uses that we would want to see in our green field areas. So, there's definitely just some balance there and what where we need to go. Um staff will focus the highest density projects in areas that are supported by DRA transit and other multimodal facilities.

Um, also in the meantime, staff will work to simplify the resoning process by developing what is called a planned area development, a pad or planned unit development, PUD, to pro, because it's just fun to say, um, to provide greater flexibility to develop large land holdings and potentially encourage a greater range of housing opportunities. What a planned area development, it does, it's it's a whole different zoning district.

that allows a developer to come in and blend and mix all the best parts of our zoning code and maybe others that aren't in there as well to sort of create their master plan for their site. This gives greater flexibility not knowing what that um what those land uses look like. Pads are usually centered around open space. We're exploring the possibility of wildfire uh risk reduction as part of our pad as well. Um so there's lots of really great things that can happen.

They work really well for master plan communities, which we're seeing an influx of in our remaining green field areas. All right, so decision point number two, which is my absolute favorite topic, floor area ratio. Don't ask me what it is. I'm just kidding. Um, floor area ratio is the size of a building in relation to the size of the lot. Hopefully I made that simple enough.

um our consultant has put together this nice little uh graphic to show this is kind of emulating what you would see in the R1N zone. So currently um what you have a lot in this zoning district is is single family um detached single family although there are a lot of mixed of middle housing types in this neighborhood. Currently you can build up to a duplex in the R1N zone. Um, we're about to change that with the middle housing to go up to forplex. So, this goes up to that forplex example.

And it shows you that just changing the F, what it does slightly is change the size of those dwelling units. Doesn't change the total number of units, but changes the size of the dwelling unit, which in turn has the potential to reduce the cost of the rent. So the smaller a unit is likely the smaller the rent it will achieve. So that's primarily what this is showing that it could potentially have um an impact on those overall costs.

I will tell you that where we can go in terms of F is still limited because of state legislation on middle housing. It does have um a cap of where we could go. So full range of play is not emotion, but is still something that we'd like to explore. Even though this wasn't one of the best understood um topics at the community conversation, it's a very hard um planning very very technical focused item, but we still want to explore how we might be able to use those tools.

It may not be appropriate in every zone, but again working with um our consultant, the interest in how far could continue to help support the development of smaller unit sizes um especially if density increases. The desire for a better explanation. We have that visualization. There was a lot of that feedback of what really is FAR and what does it do? And so we're we're trying really hard to explain what F does. The idea here is we're trying to promote smaller unit size.

Uh the concern that the floor area ratio may make de development more complicated. It could absolutely. Um it it often gets confused with lot coverage which is also a separate um requirement we have in code. And in some places it's actually important to have both because they do different things.

Um so one is more about sort of the visual massing of a building and then one is about just the overall size of the building and then the questions about how um F impacts different development types and sizes and how F would work in neighborhoods that are already built.

So um we've already had ongoing conversations with the consultants and they've shared with us lots of different communities uh lots of Historic areas have been really successful using F in scaling um home sizes within historic neighborhoods. So again, this is a tool um we'd like to see explored further. And with that, I'm going to hand Oh, so the next step is I just covered the next steps. So we will continue to work with the consultant on this.

Um, right now, uh, we are proposing to use an F cap in the R1N zone as part of the middle housing amendment, which is coming to you sooner rather than later. And, um, as a trial to see how it might have impact um, trying to work with um, resident in the neighborhood to see to explore different projects. Um, again, the state mandates make it a little bit more complicated. We really want to focus on that calibration.

We need to figure out with log coverage and um how to work in tandem with that maximum bedroom density, what what it'll look like. So more work to be done is essentially the short answer is where we're proposing to go on this item. And with that, I'm going to hand it over to Genevie. Not so fast. We have a question from Council Member Garcia. Thank you for the presentation up till now. And since we're on the FAR topic, I just wanted to u kind of ask you a couple of different questions.

So, it's my understanding that the um that that FAR could have some redundancies as far as um as far as lot coverage setbacks, height limits, things like that. Um is there in your opinion is there an opportunity for us to increase um the uh the dwelling um status like in other words give more floor air ratio to a twobedroom or a two a duplex over a single house or a triplex or a quad house um by removing some of those limitations with the setbacks and other things. Thank you so much.

um it it makes it seem as if they're redundant, but each one of those things does something very specifically different. So, what setbacks can help guide it they work more in tandem with building code requirements and they lead homeowners to a better place in terms of um lowering the expense. The closer you build a building to the property line, the more expensive that building's going to get, the more fire rated it has to be, the less openings you can have on it.

So think of setbacks in that area. Um in terms of lot coverage, lot coverage is more about massing of a structure and leaving area on the site for other uses. Floor area ratio is about managing the total size of the building. So lot coverage for example only takes into account the building footprint where floor area ratio takes into account all levels of of the building all floors of the building.

So each one of these things does something very specific as we move forward to make these changes and we recalibrate all of these places where we can do away with something that is absolutely redundant.

we will where we need to calibrate these very specifically we will where we don't need to include them we won't um what I can also say is a scaled F is a fantastic tool unfortunately the state did tie our hands with the middle housing um legislative act which sets a minimum place where we can go to with F so we need to work within the parameters of what the state has already mandated Okay, thank you. And then I had another question.

Um, what is the range of of the FAR value in existing neighborhoods like Sunnyside and and Townside and Southside of the places where we're trying to push the the more density in development? Sure. Thank you so much. Right now, we don't apply a FAR or F to residential development. We only have the FAR tool in our commercial zones. And at the end of the day, that may be where it remains the most appropriate.

I I don't know based on what where what the work we do and the modeling work we do with the consultants um in again the F needs to be calibrated for each of the different housing types um within each of the zones in coordination with the allowed density in each of the zones which the the decision point before we were we're looking at changing densities across the board in each of those zones. All of these development standards have to be calibrated together. Cool. And then one last question.

Um there was a mention potentially replacing lot coverage with for the FARCAP. Uh what other standards are you guys considering? Um well right now we are the decision points we're most focused on in these two slides are density and whether or not we want to include F. So F is not something we specifically allow in our residential zones. The proposal is not to necessarily replace lot coverage, but to calibrate all of the development standards together. Cool.

And then again, this is my understanding, so I so correct me if I'm wrong, but we're currently offering floor floor area ratios in commercial buildings. How's that working out for us? Thank you so much. Uh the floor area ratios we currently have in our code are very high. So they do little to manage um what we're talking about in this case. Um the proposal to recalibrate F that is in the code analysis actually ends up lowering our F in some of our commercial zones.

Thank you so much for the time. Thank you. Thank you Tiffany. Good evening, mayor and council. Genevie Pere three in the sustainability office and I will keep this conversation going. So we are on to decision point number three which is the menu of sustainable design standards. Um and as part of that the question of whether there should also include transportation demand management strategies in the menu. So basically strategies to get folks out of their single occupancy vehicles.

So, we heard a lot of uh we heard quite a bit at the community conversation about the sustainability menu. Uh you know, before I get into some of the feedback, just a little bit of background on this. So, basically, the menu would require developments to take basic sustainability steps and go beyond what we're currently seeing. So, really would do two things.

Give developers flexibility to choose their own path and what works for them while also moving the needle with respect to climate and health. Um, so we did hear some concerns about what's going to be in the menu. Um, during the community conversation, uh, the draft code concepts report did include some examples of what could be on the menu, but it's still pretty high level.

So, there were things like energy efficiency, water conservation, electric buildings, solar, sustainable materials, um, waste management, EV charging, and things like bike parking, transit passes, things like that. But really, so there's a lot of options that what could be on the menu.

And one thing we heard at the community conversation was also to really focus on the most impactful items in terms of um you know, health, quality of life, reducing greenhouse gas emissions, also having the least impacts on upfront costs. Um and really wanting to consider items that promote long-term housing affordability, including that really provide savings on monthly utility bills.

Uh so really was is a way for to make sure that all developments help meet Flagstaff's quality of life and climate goals. And just one other thing um you know we do have the building code update um coming up and it's apart from this project but we do have to look at them together and it basically is a minimum um and the sustainability menu would be beyond that and so we're kind of we're having to look at these things together.

Um and one thing just lastly before I get to the next slide is that folks there was a lot of support for a menu um at the beginning when the facilitators did a poll but then when we talked about it being required there was a little bit less um support for that and some of the concerns were just making development more complicated which is a theme we heard throughout for a lot of the different decision points too.

So that's why we're looking at all of this holistically just to see you know what can we make easier you know basically how does this all work together in terms of making the development process easier. So next steps uh with council support we would like to direct the consultant to explore what the menu could look like specifically so kind of beyond general ideas what specific things would be on there and how would that actually have an impact on new development.

um as well as include items that were somewhat in the consultants menu but definitely can be explored more um for transportation demand management and then um again looking at how does this you know fit in the larger development process what can be streamlined you know how can we calibrate things how can we make things easier as well as you know helping us to meet our climate and housing goals okay so the next one is parking um so there's a couple questions here just generally we asked folks do they support moving moving forward with parking reductions.

Um, and should parking be left to the developer or should there be minimum standards or no standards? What about on street parking? Um, and there was a lot of support. Actually, before I do that, there was a lot of support for parking reductions at the community conversation. Um, there was even support for no no parking at all. So, or no, not no parking, I misspoke, excuse me, no parking requirements at all or even having parking maximum.

So, we had a pretty robust conversation there and I'll get into that in a little bit. Um, before I do that, there's some slides that our consultant prepared for us. There's a lot going on in this slide, so I'm going to try to explain it. Um, I got some notes. So, basically, it shows a spectrum of monthly rent. So, from left to right in black, it shows four income ranges from low to high income.

The first four numbers are uh in black are affordable monthly rents to different folks in different income brackets. Then if we then it outlines what housing costs would need to be to consider affordable for folks earning in these different income brackets. Then if we move to the right, we go to the text in red. It shows the minimum feasible rents for new multif family construction. Um and it compares the different rents between how much parking spaces they're required.

So these are obviously very high. Um but they're based on Flagstaff's current market. So, um, these are much higher than what's affordable to most residents, but it's based on their market analysis. Um, and this the really the point of this slide is that it costs a lot more in rent the more parking you have. And so, really the point is just trying to show the connection between requiring more parking and higher housing costs. Um, and parking is one lever that the city can influence.

Michelle mentioned in her intro, there's a lot of things that impact construction and housing costs. Reducing parking is something we know can reduce those costs. Here's some more graphics. Uh so hopefully they're these are helpful. So it's basically showing how parking requirements impact building form and site design. Um and this really shows again that rents decrease with less parking. Um and I'll go into each one of these in detail in the next slide. So this is the first one.

So this is all of these developments have 50 units. Um this one requires two parking spaces per unit. Um because of the really high number of parking spaces required, a lot of the land is taken up with a parking garage and the building is is five stories, which is a very expensive construction type. Um and so the rent is high. There's really no space, not a lot of space on the development for anything other than the building and the parking.

Uh the next model um that the consultant prepared is having one space per unit, same number of of units. We can see that there's no longer a parking structure and the building is now four stories instead of five. So, the building is a less expensive construction type and there's more space set aside for land and the rent is slightly cheaper. Uh, but there's still not a lot of open space there. This is the last one that still has 50 units, but it only requires 0.5 parking spaces per unit.

The building is now three stories, which is the least expensive of the three construction types in these images. And there's a lot less parking. there's a lot more space for other things on the lot um and the rent is lower. So really the whole point of all these images just to show the connection between parking and rents and the less parking tends to lead to lower rent. So I mentioned we had a pretty robust discussion at the community conversation.

There were a lot of different options that were discussed um and again a lot of support for lowering parking requirements. Um so there was support for reducing minimum requirements, no requirements and also having parking maximums. Um there was some talk about that we have a housing crisis, not a parking crisis. So that was something that came up quite a bit. And um themes about parking covering a lot of land that could be used for other purposes like housing and open space.

Wanting residents to be able to choose housing where parking costs are separate from rent so they don't have to pay for a parking space if they don't have a car. Um and then there were also concerns about impacts of reducing parking for short-term rentals in single family neighborhoods.

So uh because of that strong support that we saw for exploring reducing parking uh staff would like to direct the consultant to explore lowering minimum parking requirements as well as implementing maximum and then how looking at how parking reductions impact and are impacted by reducing street widths and the winter parking ordinance which are the next two decision points that are definitely related to parking. So I want to look at that together and with that I will uh hand it off to Jen.

Thank you. Not so fast. We have a question from Council Member Matthews. Thank you, Mayor. Um, and you kind of answered one of them just now, but um, on the menu, um, expand a little bit on how that works. A developer comes in, they have a menu of items that they can choose to get credits, density credits, or just Yeah. What's What's going to motivate them to pick menu items? Yeah.

So, we're going to have the consultant explore really that in a lot of detail, but generally it would probably be something like they have to earn a certain number of points from this menu. And some items might be worth more points that are more impactful than other items that are worth fewer points and they can basically pick and choose among a variety of items as long as they meet the minimum points.

So, is that a way to get around the state um laws that that don't allow us to require them to put in certain conditions on their houses like 100% electricity and like we can't legally make a developer be all electric or put in infrastructure for EV. So, is this a a workaround? Um, I don't know if I have the best answer to that. Okay. Thank you, Council Member Matthews. Jenny Neman, climate action section director.

What we've heard from the development community is that they would like flexibility. Um, what we've seen in resonings, like we saw tonight, is that the development community is really ready to offer those sustainability options. And so, what we want to do is help them say, "This is how we want to move sustainability forward. This is how we want to be part of Flex Climate Action." And so we don't it's it's not a law workound around law.

It's just saying some developments want to work on transportation. Some developments want to work on energy. Some developments want to work on water. Right? Developers have different expertises. We see it every time there's a development up here. They're already choosing those paths. What we want to do is provide certainty and say these are the paths you can choose. Maybe you want to work on this like that is absolutely the path that you can go to take there.

Our goal is simplification here as opposed to the current process where it's sort of throwing things out there and seeing what sticks in some ways. And so, um, you know, in terms of state law and electrification, that may be a path that a developer chooses. Frankly, there a lot of them are already choosing that way. Um, so that will be an option, but there will be many options that have nothing to do with electrification. Okay. Yeah.

I just, you know, again, my concern is at the end of the day, the cost of housing And are we giving them a menu saying you have to choose from these things, not opting out and just saying, you know, I just want to build this product this way. And I just want to make sure we marry up the two crisises together and one's not superseding the other. Absolutely. Council member Garcia. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

And and just like a point of process, are we supposed to be keeping up with where they're at on the slide or do we wait till the end and then come back to all these things and talk to them about it. You can do either. I guess I'll have my um more in the weeds questions now and then I'll do higher level things at the end. So my first question is um I mean I could speculate on this one all day, but how are the Flagstaff current parking minimums created? That's a big question.

I will do my best to answer. Tiffany's going to jump up, but before she does, I'll just add that there's a long history of parking minimums across the United States that kind of got promulgated as zoning got promulgated across the US and they're not as scientific as we might think. So, um Tiffany, you probably have a better answer than that. No, that's that's a that's an exceptional answer. Um oftentimes parking is also linked to um transportation related modeling as well.

Um That's all a lot of the other places. Um I can tell you that some of our standards are specifically calibrated to Flagstaff like high occupancy housing um started out as being calibrated to Flagstaff to a degree but then just got expanded even more. Um so there are places there are times when we'll go out and do studies on developments within Flagstaff to see what is the actual parking ratio.

Um, I know our traffic engineers have been out counting parking spaces at night and occupied parking spaces just to see. So, that's some some of the places that it comes from. Um, sometimes it's just working with the developer when we have to establish a new land use, but they haven't changed much over the multitude of years that we've had zoning. Cool. And is it going to be more advantageous for us to go through and kind of claw back some of the more arbitrary numbers that we see there?

I just want to throw this out there because it's fun and funny. It was a bone that was thrown to me by the community. Um, we have a I guess it's it's on the books. I I actually didn't read it. It was part of the part of the comments I received that it requires one space for every 50 foot of or at a bar it requires one parking space for every 50 foot of floor space when a car space is 320 ft. So you need to make a to create a bar.

Um so so I guess that's where where when we when we talk about lowering parking minimums. Um and this is also I guess to kind of communicate to the community and those who are watching out there. It's not that we're anti-vehicle. It's that we want to have more livable space than we want our cars to have livable space. If that makes any sense. Sure. I don't I'm not sure how bars have livable space, but I'll go with you wherever you want to go on that.

Uh, you know, the commercial parking standards are all based on the square footage of the building and generally they're based on sort of occupancy or like cafes and bars are the same, just so you know. Like if you have a coffee shop, technically the parking is the same as a bar, but a restaurant is also much higher. Um so yes, you know the there is some transportation related aspect of why those are but um is it hard to claw them back? No, it's easy. It's the opposite of hard.

I I I just mean as far as is is is as as far as uh staff time and you know and where we're at in the process. Like at what point do we start going back and making them a little bit more realistic? Right. Right now, that's what we're proposing to do is we're working with a consultant to go back in. I mean, specifically, our focus has been on housing and affordable housing, which is usually one of the harder areas to have this conversation on.

I I'm sure if we come forward with an amendment to remove parking um minimums for residential development, we'll probably get a lot more public comment and feedback than we will if we reduce the parking minimums on a movie theater. I I I can agree with that completely. And when we talk about that component of affordable housing, and I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I guess I'm just leaving it in the air for the people that are listening as well.

Um there's there's studies that show that depending on where you go to um there's four to eight parking spaces for every human in the country. Now that may be wrong wrong numbers but let's even say that there's two or three. That means that a car itself lives for free. I mean somebody pays for that parking space but we don't that's the car doesn't. The car lives in for free in a space where I can't even afford to buy for myself to live.

So that affordability component drives back straight to that parking component in my opinion. So um that leads to me to ask can like I see lowering and and and uh parking requirements and then also implementing maximum parking requirements like so high lowering them and then doing the hiring. Can we just eliminate them and let the market kind of decide while we figure out what the plan forward is?

because I'm pretty sure uh I have a notion that that they're still going to require parking for their customers to an extent. Sure. Uh we can do whatever the council sees fit. We can absolutely re remove minimums. I think you want to do consider maximums though. Um we actually already have maximums built into the code to a degree.

So, um, you know, you don't want I mean, if you let the market decide, you may end up with the the parking lot that is, and I won't call out any particular retailer, but a parking lot that's designed for one day of the year, um, which eats a lot of real estate. And so, you know, maximums also do a really positive thing in the direction of which you're discussing. So, would consider that. um you know, we can fully eliminate the minimum requirements. That's definitely a possibility. Okay.

And then lastly, um I almost don't want to bring this up, but uh does the staff see parking management as a solution? I mean, we look to the southside neighborhood and it seems like we're already in kind of a little bit of a quagmire from um you know, in in certain conversations we're saying we need less parking in other places we're saying we have too we don't have enough. So could manage you know management such as downtown management of parking throughout the city help things.

So parking management is usually to deal with not so there different so the code requires a property a development to park onsite uh parking management deals with off-site parking so that's parking in the rideway um things that are generally open to the public. So some neighborhoods and some areas in the city are more desirable places to be and everybody wants to go there so therefore they all want to park on the street.

It's a good problem to have really in reality, but it can be hard for the people who live in those neighborhoods as well. And so parking management has its place um you know in the neighborhoods that have concerns and where they may need it and where there may be competing parking interests from different land uses in the in the area. So um is it a cure all for all situations? No. But is it one of the tools to manage on street parking?

Yes, thank you for answering these questions and I don't mean to bog down the process. I just don't know where to jump in. So, I'm just going to jump in wherever I can. That's good. I'm sorry. You're not done yet. Council member Spence, thank you. One of you is not done yet. I would I agree with Council Member Garcia and I'll just phrase it in my own words. I would like to see the staff talking about this uh slide.

I would like to see the staff direct the consultant to explore eliminating minimum parking requirements. That is to say, add a bullet point to what you're going to ask the consultant to explore. All right. I think you can proceed now. Thank you. Okay, everyone. We're in the home stretch here. I'm Jennifer Michaelelsson, housing planning manager, and I have the last two decision points uh have to do with reduced street widths and the winter parking ordinance.

So, we're definitely continuing um coming off of our parking uh conversation we just had and kind of stepping now into this arena of uh reducing our street widths. Um so, we we've asked the community the decision point is do you support developing a strategy and outlining a process for creating narrower local street design options? Um here is a um fun visual because it's so helpful to be able to uh interject our presentations with these concepts.

Um staff was very supportive um of a minor reduction uh of the rideway. This is a 54 foot rideway. Our standard residential street uh rightway is 57 I believe. So just a three-foot reduction um gets us this. It gets us seven foot uh sidewalk which includes a gutter, five foot uh parkway, that's where the two the trees are parking on street.

Um so see I mean if we want to choose to uh prioritize on street parking one side, both sides um to handle or absorb some of these reduced um parking requirements. some of that that parking can be accommodated um on street. So this example, this this uh illustration is showing that on street parking with um a 15 foot travel lane um which would end up requiring us to queue for two-way traffic.

So you can notice there there probably wouldn't be enough room for two cars to pass each other on a slightly reduced um street. So, this these are conversations the community can consider when we talk about um narrowing some of our residential street um sections. Um uh and and this 54 foot rightway was studied in our code concepts report that we received from the uh the consultants this whenever it was a a while back and we've been kind of sh you know sharing it with the community.

their um modeling and study of this minor, you know, three-foot reduction showed uh you know, a a moderate uh um increase in the number of residential units that could be fit into a new subdivision. So, if we're spending less land on streets in a new subdivision, um we might be able to make some, you know, minor advances in more lots within that development. So, that's the message there.

And so at the community conversation, um some of the themes we heard related to reduced street widths was um there was general consensus in the community for reducing residential streets. Um, I think a lot of people really latched on to this idea that re overly wide, massive, you know, residential roads um or any road really for that matter can feel very dangerous uh to to pedestrians especially um as as well as drivers.

So, uh reducing the the size of some of these streets, making them narrower might help with feelings of safety um and safety outcomes. Um and of course, you know, the the upside to less for uh right ofway might might get us a few more residential units in our new subdivision. So, um another theme was uh there's this uh acknowledgement that we need enough room to accommodate all of our ride-of-way activities.

The list here, um you know, we've got emergency uh vehicles that need uh plenty, you know, access on our roads. uh we need to consider snow plow operations. That's the next decision point too. Um snow storage became uh was raised as a topic. Um you know, you've got trash and recycling services happening on everybody's residential streets. Uh and of course this idea that we might be more dependent on on street parking too to meet our needs.

So it's it's essentially acknowledgment of yes, maybe they could be roads could be smaller, but we still have all these needs. And so how do we um you know let's explore how to how to accommodate all of these things. And then uh there was great acknowledgement um I believe from pros that parkways would be a really clever like helpful they are helpful places to store snow during snowplow operations. So um the other theme was uh reductions in street width.

Um well, of course, this acknowledgement that we're talking about reducing our parking requirements and narrowing our streets and changing our winter uh parking ordinance. All three of these issues work in tandem and they need to be considered together. Um so there was acknowledgement um of that those interrelated dynamics that we're talking about here um if we're seeking changes to all three of these topics.

So um the next steps related to reduce street width is um you know if council's supportive we would be directing the consultant to explore how um you know smaller street widths um can accommodate all of our our rightway needs. Um, how might we be able to reduce our standard residential street cross-section? And can we explore even more alternatives to to different uh residential street crossrods?

Um, so that we can accommodate a lot more of that higher density residential development we're really looking for. um which would also benefit um some of these different ways of delivering um a residential street could really be helpful and impactful in our historic neighborhoods um or historic downtown district.

So um next steps uh we would want them to explore again yes we want them to explain to us try to understand and really turn it around how um smaller streets would impact and be impacted by these other changes to parking and our snowplow operations. So that takes me to the last decision point parking ordinance. We asked the question um do you support developing a strategy and outlining a process for replacing the current winter parking ordinance?

Um this at the our community conversation this did receive um a a really decent like a pretty strong um uh positive support for this like let's let's talk about this. Let's look into some alternatives. Um what do those different options look like? Uh like I said in our in our concept uh um code concept report that we were given by the consultants, they outlined a couple ideas for us that we discussed as a community.

You know, examples are how about we only park on one side of the street or you could um have you know these parking restrictions apply only during a declared snow event or you know weather event. Um other things uh another example was prioritizing certain streets only. Um so I think there was general interest um consensus from the community that they're open to talking about these updating this ordinance.

Um of course there yes there was acknowledgement that um this topic is tied to our narrower streets and the parking reductions decision points um all that kind of interrelated um those connections there. Uh there was some of a bit of concern from um the community that snow play um might lead to part you know crowded conditions on streets and if they aren't you know perfectly plowed it might just create like add to some of that winter play kind of chaos.

Um but at the same time we may see fewer snow events really extreme snow events going into the future with climate change. So things to consider and kind of and um as we move forward with these alternatives. So um the next steps for the winter parking ordinance if council is on board um staff would direct the consultant to explore uh a little bit further a little bit more detail how we might uh revise our our ordinance based on what this the you know the community is interested in.

Um, oh, I do want to announce um there was mentioned in the staff report there there wasn't a whole lot of obvious consensus about right about not having a lot of consensus about having different rules about the winter parking ordinance in different locations in town. You know, I think it's an idea, you know, if one area, you know, these are your rule like downtown gets a set of rules. uh your typical more suburban neighborhoods. These are your roles. Um we didn't discuss that at length.

There wasn't a whole lot um covered there, but maybe, you know, we can get a little bit more dis like specific um examples from the consultant um when we asked them to to continue to explore these these alternatives to our current ordinance um while of course accommodating all of our right-of-way needs. um trash pickup. Do we have adequate space for emergency operations and their equipment? Um obviously snow plowing and um street parking.

Is that is that something that can be accommodated if we're changing our winter ordinance? So um that concludes this that's all of the we just have a next step slide that I think so we have some comments and I believe that they're about what you've just talked about. Great. Um, Council Member Garcia. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Can we go back to the number five section of the street widths? Um, so, so first of all, I want to thank staff for all of like none of these.

I mean, I'm sure a lot of these are your own ideas as well, but you're just conveying the community's messages to you. So, I really appreciate the fact that you did reach out to the community in such a way that you can convey these messages, this idea. So this is on this is so thank you for what you're what you're doing and thank you for answering my question so candidly.

Um but this picture here looks great to me but I couldn't imagine this happening in already developed neighborhoods like just plowing up the street and redeveloping the sidewalk and everything like that. So where I see this which maybe that's a possibility but I don't see that happening. Where I see this being relevant is in neighborhoods that haven't been developed yet. But I also don't really see it relevant out there because of the zoning code.

I mean, I don't really care if this is how it's going to look on a single family home that's on 5,000 square feet of land. It It's not going to help us a bit until we get that density to where where we actually could use this amenity, you know, with having um builtup structures and again, like I said, density, which I would like to see in these areas of land that that we're going to develop in the future, which I will bring to the point after we listen to public comment.

But um as I look at this picture, yes, the idea is great, but if we don't have the the development and the density that supports it, it's all for nothing in my opinion. But I do appreciate that the the graphic, the idea, and conveying the community's will. Council member. Oh, did you want to I just want to um you are correct um councilman that this would likely be what would occur in new development, but you also have situations of redevelopment.

And so as roadways go in and are um you know capital projects and you have infill development or you have road projects, this becomes a new standard in even our developed areas. So I I I don't want those two things to be conflated that it's only new development. It's not a fast process and it will take time, but it will eventually become the new standard of roadways. Yes. I hate to blame things on getting late and me getting tired, but the brick just fell and hit me in the head.

Like we just talked about earlier doing the butler. Um Exactly. Which looks identical to this. Exactly. So, so I back I back that statement up quite a bit. Thank you, Council Member Matthews. Thank you. Um I live in a fairly new development. Um I think our house is maybe eight years old. I don't know the street width. Um I haven't measured it, but it's narrow. Um people if someone has football, you know, and they have a couple of friends, the driveway isn't long enough to park all their cars.

If people don't stagger their cars, it's almost impossible for our one car. There's not it's not a two-lane to go through. Um and so all these ideas of the the street width parking reduction um standalone you know I I'm for them.

Um but I just want to make sure as we p you know pursue these ideas that we think when we combine all of these changes what it looks like because um there are times in the last two months that on my horseshoe development, had an emergency vehicle needed to come down that street, it would not have made it. Um, and it just coincidentally hasn't happened. So, nobody's highlighting, oh, this is a problem with these streets.

So, I I just share that to ask that, you know, I I want to hear when the consultants look into this that they've considered if we combine our changing our parking and changing this ordinance and changing that that collectively if we did all of them have we created a big mess. Um because I already see it's a little challenging. We had a new homeowner move in and do a lot of landscape work. And so they had, you know, landscape, you know, people there.

And so that has nothing to do with renting there and and everybody having a car. It's these things happen and they're they're on the street. And I had to go the other way the other day because I couldn't even get through. So um and thank goodness I had another, you know, access route. So, I just wanted to share that experience so when we are looking at those things, we're not looking at them individually and you've said that.

Um, but I'll want to feel reassured that when the consultant comes back with its recommendation or you're presenting it, I want to hear how it was all considered and how it's not an issue. Whatever is recommended, if that makes sense. It does. Thank you, Council Member House. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you all um for all of the this presentation so far. This is amazing work that's been done, and I know that it's taken a lot of labor over a long period of time.

Um, I I wanted to just express general appreciation for the comments that were made about um the things that need to be considered in tandem um and alongside each other because I I think that's so important. And um moving forward in the presentation a little bit as we were talking about the winter parking ordinance and just the questions of how that can be adapted.

Um the the first that came to mind and has come to mind throughout these conversations for me is how much we look at um other areas that have similar types of policies whether it's within the state or outside of the state. Um, for example, I I lived and grew up in Pennsylvania, and when we had major snowstorms, there were different rules for different areas of town, whether it was urban, suburban, or the downtown area of when and where you could park. Um, and it it came with many benefits.

It came with many challenges. For example, a full residential street trying to park on one side isn't necessarily going to work. um unless some of those homes aren't occupied or um are are completely demolished. Um at the same time, it it does require a lot of collaborative thinking and ensuring that um our community is on the same page with whatever shifts that we're making. Um, I think of that when we talk about uh reductions in in parking minimums or um or having no parking minimums.

Um, I think one of the things that comes to mind for me is when I worked in property management and we uh were managing some homes in a a residential area where there were parking restrictions for um who could park where. We had an an incident happen around the corner from one of the properties that we managed where a resident was uh literally assaulted because they parked in a spot that someone else didn't want them to.

And so just ensuring that we are thinking through all of the implications of uh any of the decisions that we're making and ensuring that at the same time as we're making these changes, we're readying our community for the changes that we might see. um that we are not just stating that we are um uh moving towards multimodality but also um preparing the community for what that looks like in both practice and and that ideology and even in thinking through uh changes to the winter parking ordinance.

um not only thinking about that in conjunction with the other uh programs and policies that may have to change alongside it, but also thinking through what that change looks like at the community level. how we communicate that, how we educate the community on what those changes are looking like and how we bring the community along with those changes rather than um hoping that if we make the change, people will just kind of fall in line.

So, I am just uh I'll wrap up just by repeating I'm very appreciative of all of the work that's gone into this and all of the thoughtfulness that our team is putting into all of these policies um and ensuring that that you all are thinking through all of these things.

I've I've had separate conversations with uh the team working on this and I know that there is so much that is rattling through everyone's brains as you're um trying to navigate all these policies and I I hope that the community season recognizes that just as much as we do. So, thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you. A lot of what I was going to say has been stated. Um, I can't imagine doing tonight without the full day retreat that we did with the community and our partners.

Um, I know a lot has gone into this and I'm very supportive. So, I just want to say that when it comes to the next steps and with the consultant, I'm hoping that we can see scenario modeling. Um, I know that for me and I'm guessing for a lot of the public, it's really hard to fully grasp the real world impact without those visuals. So, um, if you can just relay that message. Thank you, Council Member Alen. Good evening.

I just want to echo um lend my voice to the praise uh of our staff and team that put so much work into this and had the foresight to uh embark down this path. Um, I do have one question. Uh, well, I I could have lots of comments, but I'm going to forego those. Um, I have one question. There's a there's a question in here about how how universally we apply this over over um new development. I'm wondering if we can say we're going to do this everywhere.

Um but anybody thinking to build can apply for an exemption and that would allow for council to consider these things on a case-byase basis. Um how how much has that been considered as a a way to frame the the ubiquity of or the the extent to which we we pull the trigger on this. Um, and is that feasible? Just as a point of clarification on which one of the on which one of the topics? Well, it's probably most uh it's probably most relevant for parking. Oh, for parking.

But also, you know, I'm trying to think holistically about this the way that council member Matthews um encouraged us to. We can calibrate by zoning district. It's harder to calibrate specifically by area and most neighborhoods and areas are made up of multiple zoning categories. So, we do have that requirement to keep things uniform. But the way that the parking standards It's not it's irregardless of the zoning district. It's based on the land use.

So each of the zoning standards are specific to land use. So I mean we can look at what exemptions look like for I mean I would assume it's all development is where we're looking at doing no. Yeah. And I don't want to go too far down that road because then all these all these changes we're making uh become sort of meaningless or um they lose their teeth.

Um, and so I'm just thinking out loud uh about contextually when it it someone wants to develop somewhere and it's very clear to everyone uh that the context um these these rigorous requirements um are prohibitive. Sorry. Um, so I think if I'm hearing you correctly, it's like if there's a neighborhood that already has a known parking problem, we might not want to see that spec a new development in that neighborhood not provide parking. I think that's um one example. Okay.

It's it's it's a good way to um sort of put a pin on it, pin it down. I also think just on the the parking and I don't want to steal any of the um members of the public's thunder because I I have a feeling someone might mention this that when we as we look at this of either reducing or eliminating parking it's remember it's important to remember kind of like the new street designs it's not going to happen overnight. We're not going to wake up tomorrow morning and not have parking.

Um there's so it's just this gradual as development occurs and you start to have new development come in. So, it's it is kind of a measured and phased um impact, if you will. And hopefully other other um improvements to our codes like multimo better multimodal connections and other things will be happening at the same time that we're reducing parking and they kind of catch up with each other.

I mean, I don't want to be too idealistic, but I think that's something we can also have maybe the um consultant see if they could look at similar to your scenario modeling of kind of what is the time frame that you start to see these changes come online and so we can understand the impacts. Is that somewhat what you're kind of hoping for? I I think so. I I think you understand where I'm coming from and uh you're clearly uh have a a great mindset for for puzzling that out. Okay. Thank you.

Um, and one last question since I have the mic. Uh, are are we are we going to discuss um our our uh holding zones or not? We can we have uh the minds here to do so. Um um if I could Oh, sorry. Can I No, please. When could I speak about next steps too or do we want to keep asking? Yeah. I'm I'm not going to I'm not going to pull the trigger on an RR conversation if if uh if if the conversation bubbles up anyway. I'll have some things to say. Yeah.

And I think just um you know, you heard Tiffany mention a few uh of the opportunities and challenges with ree evaluating the RR zone. Um I think we've we've put a lot of thought into it and I think we're ready to I think that could be part of the analysis of what happens. or there's alternatives to doing that. Um, we'll we'll look for direction from you all on that. Um, but I just if I could, I just want to talk about the next steps just so everybody kind of knows.

I think there's again I always feel like we've done so much thought on this that so many people think we're really far along and we are, but we also have a lot of work to do and so there's still a lot of time for a lot of input and so we're going to get the direction from you all and then we're going to give that to our consultants. uh we'll meet with them next Wednesday and once we kind of know where you want to take this, we'll be able to meet with them and revise that schedule.

We'll probably just send that to you maybe in a community council report or in a very brief update to you of what that new schedule looks like. Um we'll research and prepare the recommendations for very specific code recommendations or code amendments. That's where you're going to see kind of the the meat on the bones of this is how it can look and probably different iterations of the direction that you tell us to go forward with.

And then uh Tiffany gets to just roll up her sleeves and add to her work program of the preparation and adoption of the code amendments. Um it probably will be several, you know, a time that we come forward with. Um, and then as always, I just want to remind you that doesn't mean while we're doing all of this that we're not doing other code changes. Tiffany talked about the pad and the pud and um, different tools that we're already working on.

So, while we're doing this on some of the higher level policy issues that we really that do kind of need more of that um, balance and that kind of how does this work in tandem? other things that we can be running um to make development easier to achieve our housing and climate goals will be coming forward just like we have been with those code changes. Um and then for next steps on tonight, we'll hear all the public comment.

Uh we'll be taking notes as you give us direction and then probably have a moment where we come back and regurgitate what we think we heard as direction, make sure we did get it right, and then uh hopefully you'll make a a motion to tell us what to do. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks, staff. All right, let's take some public comment. Jill Stevenson. You get to be first on public comment. I'm not sure that's a good perk. Um Jill Stevenson.

Um my major concern is the climate and I'm so glad that uh climate action is one of the priorities that our city is focused on now. Um I've heard so many wonderful things tonight. Um it's it's really encouraging and I hope that in every decision regarding any kind of developments you do keep in mind the carbon neutrality plan. I mean that's kind of the basis of of where we can make progress towards helping our climate.

I think all these ideas uh increasing density um smaller more energy efficient units um and with the increased density uh having public transit available um central and commercial areas.

uh all these ideas that you have brought up and many of which were were mentioned in the red oak development uh is very encouraging because I've been here many times when you have uh been considering a development and and very many times there was not much consideration for the carbon imp imprint or impact that that development was going to And I think that's that's just of a of vital concern. And I hope you will all remember that in any of these decisions you make.

And thank you to this wonderful staff you have. They are really working hard on this and I think doing an excellent job. Thank you for this opportunity too. Thank you Michelle James. Hello, mayor, vice mayor, and city council. My name is Michelle James. I'm the executive director of Friends of Flagstaff's Future.

I'd like to thank city staff for organizing the last CAP town hall in June that provided the community with additional information and facilitated the expression of diverse viewpoints for the community members who were there. FQ believes that housing density must be allowed throughout the city. However, we're concerned um with the idea of giving um by right or base densities in the RR zone, especially with the very low minimum densities such as 0 to four units per acre that has been discussed.

We are optimistic that the crafting of the PUD and PAD zoning processes hold promise in simplifying the reszoning process. We suggest the council direct the CAP consultant team to look for ways to make neighborhoods in the RR zoned green field spaces. These neighborhoods should should provide a diverse uh diversity of housing at a diversity of price points, be walkable, bikable, and transit and climate friendly.

Our community does not need recreations of country club or more golf course communities. While we understand that density is needed and has many climate benefits, density should not be created just for the sake of density alone. Density must include other elements of importance such as pedestrian friendly streets and access to current or future public transit.

Creating density must consider the people who will live there and include public spaces and other other elements that are important to making living with density a positive experience. Bringing people together in closer proximity can build more resilient neighborhoods if these important considerations are part of every discussion with developers.

FQ believes incentives for developers should focus on items that provide the most reduction in greenhouse gases, provide climate resilience, increase long-term cost savings for residents, maximize affordable housing for the lowest incomes, provide pedestrian and multimodal transportation, and perhaps provide for much needed smaller homes and other forms of middle housing. FC supports parking reductions, maybe eliminations. I'd love to see what all those uh scenarios look like.

Um and because those will result in more um housing uh decreased vehicle miles traveled uh re um well-designed adaptive reuse projects and perhaps even maybe some open space and parks. Uh finally, FC supports replacing the current winter parking ordinance. Importantly, such a change must include a robust education campaign and necessary increases in funding for staffing and equipment. And I haven't touched on FAR. I have 10 seconds. Um I have had lots of discussions with Tiffany about that.

And I like the idea. Um I'd like to see what the scenarios look like using FAR. Thanks, Michelle. Can you tell me um specifically some of the things that you like about FAR? I like that it um that it addresses the intensity of development. And I think when we're talking about infill, I think reducing that intensity can be a positive thing for fitting into older neighborhoods, maybe even, you know, 10-year-old neighborhoods. I like that idea about it.

I'm not sure exactly what it means when the when the state is limiting the number that we can use the the percentage. Um, I'd want to talk to to Tiffany some more about that to make sure that we can actually get something for it. But I think it's well worth the analysis for the consultants to look at that and determine what that means and maybe to have different FAR numbers for different neighborhoods and for different purposes. Thank you. Thank you, Tyler Denim. It's nice to meet you, Mr.

Denim. Nice to meet you all as well, mayor and council. Um, so yes, my name is Tyler and I'm here tonight to speak on behalf of Flagstaff for Affordable Housing, a nonprofit advocating for policies to bring down housing costs. We're very pleased with the recommendations staff are bringing forward. If we follow through on the policies under discussion today, it'll make a real difference for residents over the coming decades and position Flagstaff as a leader among Arizona cities.

I also have feedback to convey on the density and parking related decision points. So, we suggest allowing by right a level of density that supports duplexes, triplexes, forplexes, and town homes. These so-called middle housing options are common in older neighborhoods like Southside, Sunnyside, and Townside, and are a big piece of Flagstaff's limited supply of naturally affordable housing.

Including them in new developments ensures older neighborhoods aren't the only ones providing lowerc cost housing options. The level of density needed for middle housing options will also better support future public transit access. On the fourth decision point, we suggest exploring open option parking alongside active management of public parking. Simply adjusting our minimums is not fully adequate to meet our housing and climbing goals.

Parking minimums are often a crutch for cities that don't feel confident in actively managing public parking. And letting go of that crutch is an inevitable part of growing up. The downsides of minimums are just too severe. They inflate housing costs, kill small businesses, worsen urban heat and flooding, degrade the streetscape, and undercut walking and biking.

The growing pains in this case is adjustments to operations like snow removal and code compliance alongside the creation of parking management programs in areas of high demand. These things are difficult but ultimately worth it to meet our housing and climate goals. And if it helps you feel more confident, open option parking is not an overnight change. Even in the absence of minimums, builders willingly include parking to satisfy lender requirements.

And because it's a valuable revenue generating amenity, case studies on open option parking show it takes years for parking ratios to decrease. That gives the city the breathing space to complete these complimentary reforms. Reforms that frankly already need to happen in many neighborhoods that have a chaotic street parking situation. Finally, it's worth iterating that you're just directing staff to explore options. You're not committing to specific policies tonight.

Exploring open option parking doesn't commit you to cutting minimums everywhere all at once. It could be cutting minimums for particular land uses or particular zoning categories. There's lots of different possibilities that you'll get to evaluate. And that's all I have time for. Thank you so much. Thank you, Alec Overman. Hello, mayor and council members. My name is Alec, but I like to go by Ace.

Uh, so I speak today in support of the code analysis project final recommendations that we've gone over tonight and urge the council consider adopting these zoning changes, particularly allowing single family home conversion to duplexes or triplexes by right and repealing parking mandates for housing. Single family housing zoning has been a major compet contributed to the nation's and Flagstaff's affordable housing and storage crisis.

Allowing single family home conversions to duplexes or triplexes has been a solution for many American cities to the housing crisis by reviving middle housing, which has been missing in many neighborhoods across the nation for multiple decades. Such a policy here in Flagstaff will diversify neighborhoods and promote sustainable density.

A study across 17 metros analyzed that allowing 10% of single family lots to house two units instead of one unit could yield almost 3.3 million additional housing units to existing housing stock nationwide. In total, more than 90 cities across 39 different states, including two here in Arizona, Tucson, and Phoenix have adopted local laws to reform their single family housing zoning laws. Such states as Oregon, California, Washington, Montana, and Maine have ended them statewide.

In cities like Minneapolis, Portland, New Roshel, New York, and Tyson's Corner, Virginia, new zoning rules that allow allow more housing have helped slow rent growth. According to a study by Pew Charitable Trust, other localities in these same metro areas that did not reform their zoning laws generally saw faster rent growth. uh particularly in the city of Minneapolis.

Um prior to being the first major city to end detached single family housing zoning laws, uh their city density was um se their zoning laws accounted for 70% of the city to have detached single f family home sorry single family housing.

And now since they passed that to get rid of it, they have seen res rent decrease of 11 of over 11% and now both single family and 2 to four unit homes are nearly being built on the same pace whereas prior to before uh single family was about 50% higher than 2 to four units and then also in the US alone over 90 cities across 28 different states have revoked all parking minimums. These cities span rural, suburban, and urban America.

Both of these policies will significantly support the city of Flagstaff achieving its 10-year housing plan and carbon neutrality goals. Thank you. Thank you, Zach Skelton. I'd like to start by saying that um the conversation this evening has been awesome and my comments I had to keep changing over and over and over again because we had such a great conversation. So things might be out of place. I apologize in advance. Uh hello.

I've really appreciated city staff and elected officials hearing citizens voices around this topic and I really appreciate Tiffany making the time to come to our strong towns meeting this month. Um she had awesome things to say and is always very funny. Um, I look forward to continuing this discussion as the cap moves forward. Um, today I wanted to focus on parking minimums and now maximums. Thank you very much. Uh, as well as road widths.

If Flagstaff opted to allow open option parking across the city, we would join 95 other cities who have allowed uh, peopleized and community focused development to be legal once again. And also overturning parking minimums doesn't mean banning parking. It means the city no longer dictates the parking that is put in. Over the last 30 years across the country, we've experimented with mandating car ownership in our cities, and the results aren't great.

The high cost of free parking and the easier to read paved paradise are great resources for the huge benefits of active parking management, including procuring funds to repair our city infrastructure and encourage business access, as well as the negative impacts that our parking minimums have. I think most importantly for Flagstaff, parking minimums have been a large factor in making housing unaffordable because in a lot of cases our parking spaces cost between 10 and $50,000 per space.

Additionally, parking minimums are a positive feedback loop that grow over time as the features of a city spread out and as more residents are forced into cars to meet the everexpanding car-based scale. I would like to remind everyone we have a housing crisis and not a parking crisis. When we mandate parking, we don't save time or mandate prosperity. We expand distance.

Similarly, as our roads widen uh under the argument of throughput, driver safety, and emergency vehicle speeds, it makes it harder and more dangerous for walkers and bikers like myself to cross those roads, leading to even more cars and even m fewer walkers and bikers as they instead opt into their cars out of a reasonable fear of injury.

Our residents uh our residential streets are also already wide enough that we turn around and put them on road diets to slow drivers back down when those roads have insufficient edge friction. I live off West University and that's a neighborhood that's had a road diet. Um a great resource for street prisms is Street Mix, which I noticed uh the city's using, which is awesome. But, uh, if any of you ever want to, uh, play around with street parameters and sizes, uh, it's an awesome tool.

I know the city wants to continue its work on carbon neutrality, supporting strong communities, and providing affordable housing. And I ask that to do that, we end the car focused experiment, allow our citizens the freedom to move, and grow our cities the way we once did at a human scale. Thank you. Thank you, Samuel Noble. Evening, mayor, council. My name is Sam Noble. I live in Sunnyside. Uh I love living there due to its density.

Uh because of that density, uh the high quality of life that it affords. Uh everything I need is within a short walk or bike ride. Oftentimes, my car sits unused for multiple days due to the lack of need. and I'm here tonight to address both my overall approval of the cap and a few specific concerns with some of the items. Uh I applaud the efforts to increase density across our city.

Higher density helps achieve our carbon neutrality goals by increasing multimmodal transportation to community services. Higher density alleviates our increasing housing costs and allows more people to live and work in Flagstaff. This lowers the amount of people commuting to Flagstaff from the greater region, which in turn boosts our local economy by keeping our hardearned money in town. So, I would urge the city to adopt these density updates across all zoning types.

Uh, this will better future proof your decision on this matter, exempting zoning types uh could end up kicking the can down the road as Flagstaff continues to grow. Uh, one reason for the growth uh in the city, as you know, is uh climate change in our region. Uh it was 60 degrees today. It's hotter elsewhere. People like coming here. Uh so speaking of uh climate change, floods have been a huge symptom of our changing climate in this city.

And one large contributor to the excess water runoff is the size of our impermeable parking lots. Uh I live near the Cal Ranch parking lot on Fourth Street. Uh this parking lot has 546 parking spots. I counted them. Uh on a Saturday afternoon, there were 61 spots being used. Uh it's not very efficient. So if we removed just 160 of these excess parking stalls, we would have new working space of nearly 100,000 square feet.

Though I dream one thing that can be done in this space is construct a new park for the city beautifification that this corridor sorely needs. Uh or a new housing project that can easily hold dozens of new units. either of these projects uh can help ease excess runoff by smart construction design and more permeable services. In either case, there would still be nearly 400 spots available for the existing retail and the newly completed project.

Uh this is just one example of overdeveloped parking. Uh I think we could all probably think of dozens of other parking lots in the city that share the same blight. uh whatever possible land use we desire, it's clear that overdevelopment uh in our commercial corridors and parking is hurting our density, climate, and housing goals. So, I'd implore you today to join the ranks of communities across the country that are making parking optional.

Further, furthermore, the city should encourage building owners to divest that overdeveloped parking to make room for infill to help reach our city's goals in density, climate, and housing. Uh lowering parking minimums is a good start. Uh but let's get ahead of this asphalt ep epidemic and allow our developers and building owners to choose what is right for them instead of leveraging our futures on pavement. Thank you. Thank you Kyle Nitski. Good evening Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Council.

My name is Kyle Nichki and I'm the co-executive director of the Arizona Students Association. Here today to advocate mostly around parking. I think a lot of the really good stuff has been said. So, I'll reiterate that uh eliminating our parking minimums will not eliminate parking. And I think bigger picture, you know, we kind of spoke to at the beginning of this. This is really an opportunity for us. I don't think we'll see a big code analysis project again for a while.

And so, the, you know, housing crisis and the climate action plan are like our guiding documents, but this is really our opportunity to have an impact. And I really see eliminating parking minimums as really the perfect intersection between making housing more affordable and pushing our city to be more climate friendly by promoting busing and biking. And um so a couple quick examples. One, I just moved to University West and I have two parking spaces for my apartment.

One that I do not need and I'm like walking and stuff and so I don't know that's a point.

Um, and then my old place that I lived, um, I think something interesting around parking minimums and housing affordability is that, um, we had four people living in the house and that's why we had like four or five cars and that's why there were extra cars in the street and more affordable housing means like one of those kids can move out and then they don't have, you know, and so that's another thing I wanted to bring up.

And then on the winter parking ordinance stuff, uh I lived on a street before I recently moved that it's just not really enforced or you know they put some tags out at the beginning of the thing to let us know what's going on. And my advocacy around blue parking ordinance is that should really only be enforced during big winter events because that's parking space that we're paying for all that street parking.

And so you know I want people to be able to plow the streets and stuff but a lot of the times it's fine to park there and so may as well not cut it out for six, seven months of the year. That's everything I got to say. Thanks so much. Appreciate your time. Thank you. All right. So, that is all the public comment that we have. And before we get into the you going through each point and asking us to to tell you which direction. I just wanted to say a couple of things.

First of all, thank you to everyone who has studied this so closely and taken the time to not only come out tonight, but previous sessions. Um it's it's so wonderful to sit here and talk about um these these things with you and I agree with all of you who said that this can be um this can really change the face of the community um and the quality of life for people in the community.

Um, I love to preemptively discuss ways to solve problems rather than being here talking about trying to fix some of the problems. The road diet was was brought up. We spend a lot of time, a lot of staff time um and a lot of money on traffic calming. So, if we can get this right um without having to go back through and try to um re-engineer a road to um get people to slow down and um so forth. I'm all for that. And we see so many problems because of the winter parking restrictions.

So, I'm very open to talking about how we tackle that. I mean, I think that the the parkways are wonderful for many reasons. For street trees, for um shielding pedestrians from the road, and um a place to dump our snow as well.

And um in terms of the sustainability um a question was asked on one of the slides and um I too as several others have said would like to see some sort of a menu that that tells us you know that balances out what gets us the biggest climate bang for our buck and um is most likely to be used by developers. Um, and that that goes with everything that we're talking about.

Um, I want to make sure that what we're choosing to do is going to get us um the farthest down the road that we can get and still be palatable to um to residents and to people building housing and so forth. So um I think we're ready to go through and say what's up. So, I think we were just talking we'll probably go to the decision points and then the our next steps which is pretty much staff's recommendations.

So on the density um the recommendation is that we examine the base density increases for all the zoning districts um excluding the RN um model the benefits of increasing the density within the RR and then kind of the pros and cons of that and maybe there's some other options to that focus the highest density project in areas um that are supported by transit and other multimmoal facilities. And I think just to be very clear highest density is really those like 100 units per acre.

We're talking the really high density. Um, and then I guess so on that are we is this good direction or any comments? Okay. I see a lot of Yes, there there were thumbs up in the room. Any disagreement? Okay. All right. In the meantime, we're going to um be working on this pad or pud um and you'll be seeing that in the interim and we're really excited about that. And I just want to say this is something that we've talked to several developers about.

Um and and just kind of serendipitously, it just we had several different projects that came in and the answer for each project was if we had this tool, it would be a lot easier process. So we feel like this is one that the hopefully the development community will be participating in developing it and we'll be supportive of using it. Okay. Floor area ratio.

Um, sounds like there is some support for us doing a little having the consultant do more research on this, get more information of how it can be used. Um, using it for caps in the highest density, including R1N. Um, looking at how to calibrate the FAR caps to each individual zone, both for large and small parcels.

um how lock coverage and F will work together in some zones and how um F might replace lot coverage in others and then how F may work in tandem with the maximum bedroom density for very large developments. Thumbs up online. Any disagreement. Okay, I'm good with it. Sustainable uh sustainable menu.

Um, so definitely an interest in looking at that, focusing on the items that get us the biggest bang for our buck, both in uh reducing greenhouse emissions and achieving our carbon neutrality goal, but also being things that are desirable by the development community. Um, and then exploring ways to streamline the development process in general and identify any development regulations that could be reviewed, removed, or made easier.

A lot of what we heard at the community conversation is that they don't want to see more of, but they are open to like a menu like this as long as we can also demonstrate what we're we're getting rid of and where we're streamlining. Okay. Online any All right. I see a little thumbs up. Okay. I think um on the parking we heard not just looking at reducing parking minimums, exploring a maximum and then also exploring eliminating parking.

Um definitely we heard a lot about the open option from the community and we'd like to include that. I think sounds like that kind of gets to maybe what Councilman Alen was talking about with an exemption. So that would be part of what we would add to this recommendation is to look at that. Um, and if I could just jump in, would you said um, parking maximums or no parking, but what you're saying is, um, no requirements, correct? Thank you. There would be parking. Yes, but not prescribed.

That's for those at home that might be listening. Thank you. And there are thumbs up around the room. Any disagreement? There's two. The street widths. Um I think sorry um we would like the our consultant to explore kind of in tandem you know we're hearing that loud and clear that reduced or eliminated parking um reduced street widths and alternative winter maintenance are all things that the council's interested in but looking at them in tandem.

So, how would that street reduce street widths and accommodating on street parking, emergency access, snow maintenance, um exploring how that might play out? Um reductions in standard residential street crosssections, definitely looking at that.

And then that um options for alternative street car um sections such as for attached town homes or higher density development um along historic downtown streets and then have them look at how street with reductions impact or are impacted by reduced parking in that revising. So kind of recapping that. Sorry it's late online. Okay. Okay. And last but not le least, the winter parking ordinance.

And so kind of that same theme, having our consultants look at that as part of the reduced parking, eliminated parking, u reduced street widths. Um looking at different options. Um we heard from the um one community member about, you know, really looking at snow maintenance during high events. um and not just during a certain period of time.

I don't see Scott Overton on um but that is definitely something that we've talked about with him and he has been gracious um to entertain that and I think there's ways that we can start to um predict when storms are going to come. So that's probably something we could really talk about in that of different ways to do that with predictability modeling um and then how revising the ordinance impacts um again that reduced parking. So I think we got our direction there. Awesome. Great. Okay.

Thank you very much, council, for sticking with us. Mayor, if I may, Michelle, before you go away, um I'm really good with a lot of this. Can you go back to the first decision point slide for me real fast? This one, the density. Uh I I I think we're going further back than that. Uh yeah, this is the slide I wanted to look at real fast. Okay. Um yeah, I I suppose I just want to say uh for the record that I I don't really support zoning of RR.

Um I'm worried about how it affects state lands coming into private ownership. Um and the other point that I wanted to make um is that I don't think it'll gain traction. developers aren't going to build affordable or scale down housing um without code. So, uh I hope everyone understands that. And uh yeah, so I I just want to be on the record with that one. This feels like a slippery slope to me. Thank you, Council Member Garcia. You had your hand up. Thank you for that, Madam Mayor.

Um I also wanted to see if it would be beneficial for the um the consultants to to give us um their perspective on byite versus incentive policies. Um I I know that incentive policies is kind of where what would get us to our goals fast enough, but I've also seen incentive policies in this room not be utilized because they didn't have to and it was easier for them just not to have to.

So, um would Byrite be better at a certain um housing size or structure and then maybe incentives are better at a at a larger or vice versa? Um those type of questions I'm concerned with as well. And uh not to completely belabor the point, but I I pulled people in my neighborhood and talked to them about this over the last week.

and their their main concern they understand that you know where I live in the sunny side um I talked to folks in the southside neighborhood as well they understand that we want to push density to where there's already transit rich spaces but we also don't want to have like a disproportionate forcing of of everything that comes along with that density when town when what I call Flagstaff part two um John Wesley Pal area is just going to be built with single family homes.

Like if we can't like from from from the neighborhood's perspective, if we're not figuring out a policy on how to make them look like us, so it could be all of us in the same boat, you know, so there's an equity component to every neighborhood in this in this town. Then again, the workingclass neighborhoods get to have to bear the brunt of all of the things while other neighborhoods just get to um you know, not have to deal with what density looks like.

So, that's just the sentiment from the neighborhoods that I spoke to and I hope that that can translate into a policy moving forward. I'm sure it has more to do with code and things outside of our reach, but I had to speak to it. Thank you. No, I appreciate that. And when you were talking about the incentives um versus by right I just for clarity were you talking about that just on density or in all of the six um things that we're looking at? It really was just with the density component.

I didn't explore it in any other realm to be honest. Okay. Thank you. All right. I don't see any other comments. So thank you. I know this has been a huge lift and um in addition to everything else that you're already doing. So, thank you. Well, thank you.

And I just I really do want to thank you each and every one of you because I think you've given us support along the way and that support has kind of fed our excitement and the just wanting to do this and wanting to really deliver something and so we really wouldn't be here without you guys. So, thank you very much. All right, we're moving on to open call to the public. And I don't have any cards. Oh, there is a card. Andy Fernandez. Yes. Okay. Andy Fernandez.

I'm a native son, born and raised here in Fly Staff all my life now. So uh first of all this is the asinite and the idiotic that we keep on talking about affordable housing when the city of Fly Stab was the one that and then all their cronies with Habitat for Humanity and HUD so-called non forprofits just like Fif Medical. But yet that s the surgeons over there back in 1999 were making 400,000 plus. That's not for profofit. That's a lie.

And all these people and all these all over the United States are making these excuses to manipulate the p the cost of housing to benefit their own pockets. And that's appalling. Like I said, here's the city council that initiated 1999 the first affordable housing right down right off of third street right off of fourth street main arterial road. The houses there were for anywhere from 41 to 47,000 average.

All of a sudden the Habitat for Humanity Hood and all these organizations with the city of Flagstaff and and you Mrs. Dagot with the friends of flex future manipulated the scenario and the so-called live affordable housing. These houses in six and a half years went from 43 to $47,000 to 385 to $450,000. That's appalling. It's a scenario that you guys have manipulated for your own gain. Now the scenario with Billy Trimble, I had to uh stipulate that my condolences.

He retired at police officer officer who passed away and he was a very very nice person, decent person. Now with that said uh my main issue here is addressing the issue that is that is transforming transpiring right now and that's with the Democrats who have no gumption to facilitate anything. their lacks of days. They sit manipulate thinking of certain scenarios but they don't move forward and do anything. We have a scenario here.

We have genocide that's transpiring the Gaza strip where th hundreds of thousands of people are dying. Babies, children mothers elderly. Now we have a scenario where the United Nations there's five voting members. We have article six that could facilitate a scenario that of expulsion. This is an area of expulsing expulsion of a country who are manipulating certain scenarios and the ICC did stipulate that Israel is doing so.

Now since 1948 the aggressor has been nine times has been actual Israel attacking uh uh the Palestinians. Now you have a scenario where we always talk about oh you know Afghanistan, ISIS, all these other scenarios that are man-made terrorism because the United States went in and gave these people money on under excuses that were also being manipulated by the bureaucrats in the United States.

So we have a situation here where Israel and the new Babylon here the United States manipulating scenarios for their own benefit are the imperialists that are taking advantage of and murdering people and they need to the UN needs to facilitate article six that will expel the United States from voting those five scenarios where they voted for no medication. Thank you Mr. Fernandez.

five different vote voting voting scenarios that the United States voted against that all these other countries 147 opposed and that's what they're calling for the the expo expulsion scenario to facilitate. Thank you. Your time is up. Amendment because amendment to so we're moving on to item number 17 which isformational items to from mayor council and staff and future agenda item requests. This time I will start with council member Spence. I have nothing nothing this evening.

Thank you, Council Member House. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to um share I don't think this necessarily rises to the level of affair, but I recently was able to participate in a neighborhood walk in the Sunnyside neighborhood and um was we were walking along the area by Kip Elementary School and it was noted by um some family members in the community that there are very few crosswalks or um safe crossing areas in the area around that school or throughout that neighborhood.

Council member House, would you would you hold on one moment? I'm sorry. Can we please take any conversations outside? Um, thank you. Please go ahead. Thank you. Um, so I'd like to just see what we can do to talk about that area and what we can do to perhaps expand uh safe crossing areas throughout uh that part of Sunnyside. And staff, did you get the area that she's talking about? Okay. Was there anything else? That's all. Thank you so much, Mayor. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you.

I also have something that I don't believe is a fair item, but um so I've been hearing and I'm sure we all have the concerns from residents about the change in the bulky trash pickup schedule. And given the public interest, I would like to request a review to ensure that we have this issue come to council for a discussion. And it doesn't need to be today or tomorrow, but I'm asking for it to be done sooner than later. Thank you. Council member Alen, I'll hold off for tonight.

Mayor, Council Member Garcia. Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'm going to skip till next week. I'm a little tired. Council member Matthews. Thank you, Mayor. I do have a fair item. Um, and I've had this discussion with Michelle McNelte, um, and other community members, developers, and other stakeholders. Um, we're getting close to what I'm going to propose, but um, I clarified it with Michelle.

Um, some of the changes we're making in last cap and and what's being recommended will get us close but not over the finish line. So, my fair item is um to request that we start um that we do reszoning process not to be tied with site or concept plans. Um, were one of the few cities that, as we heard from the developer tonight, spent millions of dollars um providing site plans um on something that he may or may not get approved um at the end of the day.

And um it makes it a longer process and very costly for developers and discourages developers um sometimes from coming forward if they need a resoning because they go years and know if after all that money spent that they're going to get it approved. So, I'd like to have a discussion and investigation um or research from our planning and zoning to see if that's feasible and if we can move that forward. Thank you. And city manager, nothing up there. All right. I have nothing. So, we're adjourned.