Tempe adopts Southwest Character Area 6 plan; defers vote on 229-unit Cabana Kyne workforce housing project

good evening everyone welcome to the Tempe city council regular council meeting item number one is call to order Council meetings can be watched in real time via Cox Cable channel 11 and at tempe.gov temp1 members of the public may also attend the meeting virtually through Microsoft teams if you have signed up to speak on items later on the agenda please know that as the presiding office officer I have the discretion to introduce items out of their regular order as listed on this agenda I may change the order of items from time to time to accommodate scheduling to allow us to address items with a large number of speaker cars so so those wishing to speak on those items don't have to wait until later in the meeting or to otherwise expedite the business of the meeting if you wish to speak on an agenda item and you haven't filled out a speaker card yet please make sure to fill out and submit your completed card to the city clerk prior to the item coming forward for Council discussion I will call your name when it is your turn for public comment I'd now like to invite everyone who's able and willing to stand to join me in a moment of silence followed by the Pledge of Allegiance thank you I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you tonight's agenda has a number of items that the city council must consider in order to conduct City business guidelines for conduct at City Council meetings are on the table near the entrance for those in attendance at tonight's meeting we will now play a video with the proper protocol for ensuring the appropriate conduct at City Council meetings the City of Tempe welcomes public comment at this time disrup Behavior will not be allowed continued disruptive behavior will lead to removal from the council chambers we need to be able to hear everyone in the room behavior that disrupts disturbs or otherwise impedes the orderly conduct of any city council meeting is not helpful and is not permitted this includes Behavior both inside and outside of the council chambers should individuals inside the council chambers become disruptive so that City business is not able to be conducted the mayor will first ask that the individuals allow City business to be completed there will be time for public comment during the call to the audience portion of the meeting if no cooperation the mayor will issue a verbal warning and let them know that the continued disruptive behavior will lead to removal from the council chambers if there is still no cooperation the mayor will issue a second verbal warning and let them know that the continued disruptive behavior will lead to removal from the council chambers if there is no cooperation after asking and two verbal warnings then the mayor will ask security officers to remove only those individuals who are causing the disruption security person should not engage in any way but only escort them from the council chambers if individuals refuse to leave security Personnel shall warn them that they are trespassing and that the next step will be arrest by a Tempe Police Officer Tempe officers may have to arrest if individuals refuse to leave charges for trespass and disorderly conduct May apply as well as other charges should anyone be asked to be removed the mayor will recess the meeting thank you so much we're now going to play a video conveying the City of Tempe native land acknowledgement statement we wish to acknowledge that Tempe is the homeland of the native people who have inhabited this landscape since time immemorial these ancestral lands of the aam known as Pima pipos known as the Maricopa and their ancestors extend far beyond our city this land continues to be spiritually connected to the aam of the Salt River Pima Maricopa Indian Community and hila River Indian Community we accept the respons responsibility of stewarding those places and solemnly pledge to consider this commitment in every action all right guess that signals that all right uh next up item number four meeting minutes tonight I'll be assisted by council member chin council member chin thank you mayor uh I would like to submit for approval items 4 A1 through 4 A3 it's been moved by council member chin do I have a second second second by vice mayor garlett I think by hair please vote it's all good yes and that item passes 6 to zero with council member Hajj absent next up item 4B acceptance of board commission and committee meeting minutes council member chin thank you mayor I move for acceptance of items 4 B1 through 4B 11 it's been moved by council member chin do I have a second seconded by council member Adams please vote yes and that item also passes six to zero with council member Hajj absent that brings me to item number five reports and announcements I actually have a number of them and I wonder if the council would like to join me down in the front for all of these this evening oh which on does it feel alone over there thank you I appreciate it's a good color coordination said sometimes I will move things around a little bit here so I'm actually going to start this evening instead with item 582 some of our proclamations this evening so first up here item 582 lights on after school day is there anyone from staff who's coming up to accept this Proclamation this evening ah yes Mary come on oh the whole team come on forward it's there's always like like 10 seconds where I worry that no one is going to get up [Applause] so good evening all right so this Proclamation reads whereas the citizens of Tempe stand firmly committed to equality after school programs and opportunities because they provide safe and engaging learning experiences that help children realize their full potential and support their academic growth and well-being support Working Families by ensuring their children are safe and productive when they are out of their class classrooms help address key issues in our state such as school absenteeism learning loss recovery and Workforce Development build stronger communities by involving students parents businesses and Volunteers in the lives of young people after school provides a solid return on investment every $1 invested in after school programs saves at least $3 by increasing kids earning potential improving kids performance at school and reducing crime and juvenile delinquency and whereas Afterschool programs provide critical support for Children and Youth offering them new experiences and opportunities along with Hands-On learning that help them learn and grow youth who attend Afterschool programs attend school more often do better in school and gain important work and life skills these supports are all the more important today and whereas the City of Tempe is committed to the education and well-being of our youth and recognizes that quality after school programs prepare our children to become successful adults and help our community Thrive and whereas light on after school the national celebration of after school programs held this year on October 24th 2024 promotes the importance of quality Afterschool programs in the lives of children families and communities and whereas the demand for Afterschool programs continues to grow for every child in a program four are waiting to get in and whereas many after school programs face operating challenges so severe that they are forced to consider closing their doors and turning off their lights and whereas the City of Tempe is committed to for providing expanded learning opportunities that help our children learn grow and develop the skills essential for success in life and work now therefore I Corey Woods mayor of the City of Tempe Arizona to hereby declare October 24th 2024 as lights on after school day in Tempe [Applause] Arizona thank you see you too thank you so much well well well she's either going to uh love all of us after this or she's never going to speak to me ever again I'd like to see if I could get Dr Judith Aldrich to come up and join myself with the [Applause] council so uh I might have just told Judy that we were here to celebrate the Kanas Club of Tempe and all the great work that they do which they do for all of you kananian in the audience that's right that doesn't what I just said doesn't negate any of that but uh we wanted to find a way and I wanted to thank uh where's uh Debbie bear there she is she was uh kind of in on this uh Judy I hate to tell you so you know you know but I I will say I I've been a member of the quanas club of Tempe since 2005 the majority of the members of the city council are actually members of the quanas club uh and the first person that I worked with who actually assigned me a task when being a member of the quantis club was Judy Aldrich who had me work the Halloween Carnival at kowas Park and so I learned how to order toys for all the kids I learned how to go to the health department and pick up a a permit for the evening so she taught me everything I knew about how to run that Halloween event and so I guess that since then the rest of my time and all of our times in Kanas uh have been have been fantastic frankly so we wanted to thank you for all of your incredible work and with that I have this Proclamation whereas Dr Judith Aldrich has been a dedicated member of the kuas club of TP for 35 years serving as president secretary treasurer and board director not all at the same time uh while beer heading major community events and has been honored with the kananian of the Year award four times and whereas Dr Aldrich has played a pivotal role in the Boys and Girls Club of the East Valley Tempe ladmo Branch where her service as board president vice president and secretary was recognized with the distinguished service award highlighting her lifelong commitment to supporting Youth and whereas Dr Aldrich has demonstrated exceptional leadership within the City of Tempe having served as chair of the Personnel Merit board as a member of the police and fire Public Safety Retirement Board the judicial Board review board the City of Tempe Parks and Recreation board and as co-chair of the North Valley partnership parade and whereas Dr aldrich's outstanding leadership was recognized with the 2018 outstanding Community leadership award and her participation in Tempe leadership class H let's see here this would be 18 demonstrate it's in Roman numerals I had to make sure I got it right demonstrates her ongoing commitment to fostering Civic engagement and growth within the Tempe community and whereas Dr aldrich's professional contributions to education are vast having served as the associate superintendent for Educational Services in the Deer Valley School District assistant superintendent of personnel for the Tempe Elementary School District and as an adjunct professor reflecting her lifelong dedication to shaping the future of Education and whereas October 15th is Dr Judith aldrich's 80th birthday and her adventurous spirit and passion for life including her love for tennis theater cocker spaniels and World Travel have inspired those around her making her a beloved and respected figure within the Tempe Community now therefore I Corey Woods mayor of the City of Tempe Arizona do hereby declare October 15th 2024 as Judith Aldrich lifetime of service day in Tempe Arizona [Applause] you deserve this for the old [Applause] quick question too how many kwans are here by hands yeah canans come up here and take a picture with well that's a great that's right good job cover [Applause] all right next up here item 5 A4 which is fire prevention week uh members of Tempe fire medical rescue uh Chief Duty would you like to come forward Chief is in the house chief is definitely in the house chief good to see you all right so this Proclamation reads whereas the City of Tempe is committed to ensuring the Safety and Security of all those living in and visiting our city fire is a serious Public Safety concern both locally and nationally and homes are the locations where people are at greatest risk from fire and whereas Home Fires killed more than 2,700 people in the United States in 2022 according to the National Fire Protection Association and fire departments in the United States responded to 360,000 Home Fires and whereas roughly three out of five fire deaths happen in homes with either no smoke alarms or with no working smoke alarms working smoke alarms cut the risk of dying in reported Home Fires almost in half smoke alarms sent smell well before you can alerting you to danger in the event of fire in which you may have as little as 2 minutes to escape safely and whereas the City of Tempe resident should install smoke alarms in every sleeping room outside each separate sleeping area and on every level of your home residents will make sure their smoke alarms meet the needs of all of their family members including those with sensory or physical disabilities and residents should test should test smoke alarms at least once a month and whereas residents who have planned and practiced a home Fire Escape Plan are more prepared and will therefore be more likely to survive a a fire fire and whereas City of Tempe fire medical rescue department is dedicated to reducing the occurrence of Home Fires and home fire injuries through prevention and protection Education City of Tempe residents are responsive to public education measures and are able to take personal steps to increase their safety from fire especially in their homes and whereas the 2024 Fire Prevention Week theme smoke alarms make them work for you serves to remind us of the importance of having working smoke alarms in the home now therefore I Corey Woods mayor of the city of of Tempe Arizona do hereby declare October 6 through the 12th 2024 as Fire Prevention Week in Tempe Arizona thank all right next up item 5 A5 uh Energy Efficiency day do we have members of our team who' like to come forward and accept this one aha hey all right so this Proclamation reads whereas Energy Efficiency is an efficient that's interesting uh and effective way to meet the city of temp's community and Municipal 2050 carbon neutrality goals and whereas Energy effic Efficiency is the cheapest quickest and cleanest way to meet temp's energy needs avoid dangerous pollution and reduce utility bills for residents and businesses in our community and whereas the City of Tempe continues to work to improve efficiency across municipal buildings outdoor lighting water infrastructure and Municipal Fleet and Transit Fleet through assessments retrofits and upgrades and whereas the sustainability and resilience division with support from chisa Arizona and rail CDC created an eight-month Workshop series through the climate Justice Advisory Group to seek resident input for tempy's first residential energy Equity road map aimed at achieving an equitable outcomes in Energy Efficiency and energy access and whereas the City of Tempe adopted the international green construction code for City buildings to help mitigate green gas emissions through Energy Efficiency and is working towards mandating igcc adoption for private developments as well and whereas the City of Tempe adopted the mandatory International Energy Conservancy code conservation code in 2009 for both City buildings and private development setting minimum efficiency standards that help lower energy costs now therefore I Corey Woods mayor of the City of Tempe Arizona to hereby declare October 2nd 2024 as Energy Efficiency day in Tempe Arizona [Applause] so you no you're then you're in the middle man SE thank you congratulations the last Proclamation I have this evening is for domestic violence awareness month do we have a member of our team who's coming to Chief McCoy Chief good to see you all right wonderful love purple oh yeah all right so this Proclamation reads whereas the City of Tempe Tempe Community Health and Human Services Tempe Police Department and Tempe fire medical rescue as well as the city's Family Justice Commission are proud to recognize domestic violence awareness month and whereas the National Coalition against domestic violence 2024 theme heal hold and Center is a call to action meant to bring attention to the issue of domestic violence for domestic violence awareness month and throughout the year and whereas by taking a stand we intend to remind the nation that there are still countless people victims and survivors their children and families their friends and family their communities impacted by domestic violence and whereas the City of Tempe offers a wide range of trauma informed Services across multiple City departments to ensure that victims are given the support and services they need inclusive of Crisis and mental health response Victim Advocacy school-based supports counseling and other services vital to assisting victims and educating our community and whereas the City of Tempe is proud to operate a family Advocacy Center in collaboration with Arizona State University to serve victims of crime in temp in a safe and healing environment and whereas the Tempe Family Justice Commission supports the city's work and lends its expertise through educ ation and advocacy now therefore I Corey Woods mayor of the City of Tempe Arizona do hereby declare October 2024 as domestic violence Awareness Month in Tempe Arizona [Applause] culations [Applause] hang out really quickly too for item 5 A1 are we all set to go on that or do we need a little more time we're good okay wonderful thank you all right so item 50 A1 is the community supervision program client recognition the mayor's office and the Tempe city council are honoring outstanding clients in our community supervision program these individuals went above and beyond by engaging in activities to increase their education parenting skills financial literacy personal Improvement and Beyond each awardee has demonstrated success in many areas Tempe Community Supervision is a program administered by the City of Tempe Community Health and Human Services Department Social Services Division in cooperation with the Tempe municipal court and City prosecutor's office the mission of Community Supervision is to facilitate change through participation education and connection to Services the clients we recognize tonight were selected by staff from the nearly 5,000 cases referred to Community Supervision in the past year so the first one I have this evening is drum roll Aaron yai aarin yai receives this award for his continued self-improvement efforts Mr yai has had to overcome many obstacles in his life to find himself here tonight it is a privilege for Community Supervision to work with and to recognize Mr yai for his dedication and hard work in creating seeking and developing a healthy and positive lifestyle Mr yai demonstrates how all of us can take adversity and challenges that life sends our way and with perseverance faith and gratitude can achieve the best of all we can be congratulations thank you got turn around the next person and I should is she online I guessed I think she might be okay so the next person person who's actually receiving an award this evening is IET Ricky Who's online this evening she's being recognized for her significant Improvement in developing new schools new skills schools new skills and abilities I should develop a new skill which is reading that word properly um miss Ricky has dedicated herself to strengthening herself and her relationships miss Ricky was recently hired and has started a new time a brand new job she provides a great example of how openness to learning and personal resiliency provides for transformative change leading to success and fulfillment so congratulations to evet [Applause] Ricky the next awarde this evening is Jose vades oh yeah please come [Applause] forward thank you Jose receives this recognition for his commitment to improving him self through the culinary arts Mr vades uh self-enrolled in the community kitchen through the St Mary Skills Center Mr vades has received the National Restaurant Association s safe certification Mr vades has also Advanced through continued work and training and currently serves alongside the executive chef at one of Hilton's most prestigious properties congratulations so all right sure Y and we also have a very special award for Community Supervision client of the year for 2024 and that goes to Miss Kayla Porterfield [Applause] Miss Cayla Porterfield is recognized today for her consistent commitment to her overall personal Improvement and growth Miss Porterfield excelled at completing triple P parenting an intensive parenting skills building program Miss Porterfield recently graduated from cosmetology school and is close to becoming a fully independently licensed cosmetologist more than any other person in the last year Kayla has demonstrated significant self-improvement and positive change through hard work dedication and commitment to change congratulations [Applause] congratulations congratulations awesome thank you very much congratulations yes Madam city manager I believe there's two more presentations oh hold on one second here oh wait a minute you are correct I I that's because I took things out of order and did not go back to the things that I missed so thank you so much so we're probably going to have to go back down so let's go ahead and do that then oh okay all right so next up here item 5 A7 the center for digital government government Experience Awards Innovation for city council strategic priorities and performance measures and Wastewater bio inel program hubs so there's going to be a slide that you will see up here so temp's been nationally recognized to the 2024 government Experience Project awards for its innovative use of technology and data the performance measure Hub and Wastewater bio inel program sites have been honored for their role in improving transparency operational efficiency and Community engagement so I want to now see if we can get the Enterprise GIS and data analytics team as well as the strategic management and Innovation staff to come down for a [Applause] photo do you well just in case you can't read the shirt over here the shirt really does indeed uh talk about what we do Tempe loves data I guarantee you that is absolutely true and we may still have some of the shirts lying around if someone wants one thank you congratulations [Applause] than thank you all right item 5 A8 my good who wants to hold this Council branberg why not go for it look at that all right this item is for the American planning ass Association Arizona chapter award for tempy's General plan 2050 so I want to make sure I can call up all the staff here for the general plan who who's all here come on up you all know who you are Jeff tamulevich Ryan L Jacob Payne and be adikari shaa Warner Brenda Clarks Josh Rutherford and any other City staff that were involved community members and businesses please make sure to come up and join us all right so Tempi tomorrow General plan 2050 won the best General plan award for jurisdictions with populations of more than 50,000 people from the American Planning Association Arizona chapter for the year 2024 city leaders and staff received the award plaque in person at the APA Arizona annual conference in Tucson on September 19th 2024 during the award ceremony it's an important recognition of the high quality of the plan by the planning community in Arizona so once again I know our staff worked tirelessly on this plan for the better part of two years through over 40 Community meetings and lots of hard work and input from residents and council members they did an exceptional job and obviously they're being recognized that recognized for that here today so thank you again for everything you do and thank you for the big win on the 2050 plan thank you all right that actually was my last announcement so with that I'm going to turn to our city manager Madam city manager any announcements this evening thank you Mr Mayor just just one announcement wanted to make sure our community knows that this coming Sunday October 6 is the Tempi tala the 26th annual Tempi tavada is free admission with live entertainment and many boots for children and face painting and honoring our Tempe Heritage uh with the museum exhibit of the families the original oral histories of the families in Tempe 26 year strong activities and honoring our history so just wanted to remind everyone to please join us between 12:00 and 8: it'll be a little warm but there'll be water and drink so enjoy thank you excellent thank you so much B city manager that brings me to item number six public appearances according to the Arizona open meeting law the city council may only discuss respond to or take action on matters listed Elsewhere on this agenda for discussion and legal action the purpose of the open call to the public is to allow individuals to address the city council on any issue within the jurisdiction of the city council no person shall speak more than once and there's a limit of three minutes per speaker speakers present at the podium must State their name and city of residents and provide a speaker Card members of the public shall refrain from making personal impertinent or slanderous remarks and from becoming boisterous while addressing the city council or while attending the meeting speakers will be taken first come first serve in the order in which the cards are received speakers visual aids and appearances by phone or recordings are not allowed the city council was prohibited by by state law from discussing responding to or taking action on matters raised during the call to the public even if asked to do so by a member of the public so long as the subject discussed by the speaker is not listed as a specific agenda item for council's consideration for discussion and legal action individual members of the council May respond to criticism made by speakers ask staff to review a matter or request a matter be placed on a future agenda all right I've got a few speakers here under public appearances uh the first Speaker I have this evening is Ryan pots is Ryan pots here this evening is um Ryan Potts online by chance no he's not okay then I will move forward to the next one uh just really quick CL clarification here on my second speaker um Mr just go to the next one okay sounds good all right then my third speaker this evening is David soosi is he in the virtual audience yes he is all right Mr soosi can you hear me yeah can you hear me yes please state your name and city of residence you have three minutes my name is David soski I live in Tempe why doesn't the city have a housing plan the city is willing to spend up to 220 million to pave the streets but how long will it take for us to solve our affordable housing shortage the city is getting awards for expanding affordable housing but this is actually lot the affordable housing stock was wiped out I think we lost 8,000 units and Hometown for all hasn't built a single unit of affordable housing to replace them Tempe continues to add demand for housing with new jobs and people are aging into retirement faster than Tempe build affordable housing the intent of SP 1162 is for cities to eliminate any deficiencies in housing I've been told the City's population doubles during the day and that means the city is already committed to future growth because the jobs in the students already exist Tempe will probably need up to 200,000 units by 2050 and the city would be comparable to Vancouver in size and population this would be about 15% of the 1.3 million units Phoenix Metro will need by 2050 I know this is going to be difficult for people to accept but I'm confident this reality will become apparent for many different reasons people usually say not everyone has to live in temp but that's exactly the kind of attitude that created a national housing shortage in the first place that's the reason behind s162 we're going to need 30,000 low-income units by 2050 how many units per acre how many acres are we going to buy what is the average cost per acre how much are we going to spend per year if Tempe adops inclusionary zoning at 15% that means the city has to build 200,000 units right did you consider what it takes to produce 200,000 units did you discuss removing height restrictions I assume local control will need to be taken away from Tempe because the city restricts the supply of affordable housing Food City was kept at 50 units per acre on land that is 65 but you just approved a project that is 133 this double standard is how I know local control will be taken away because the city is incapable of achieving its goals the city needs to build 100 low-income units every 30 days and at 25 low income units per acre that's 1,200 acres of land Tempe would need to purchase one acre of land every seven days Tempe needs to create a housing task force and we need a real housing plan to make sure we're achieving the desired outcome if the city wants to retain local control then you need to demonstrate to everyone that you're capable of meeting the expectations of s162 thank you for listening thank you so much the next speaker we have is Steve Norris yes please come forward state your name and place of residence you have three minutes uh my name is Steve Norris I live in Tempe uh I resided in Tempe for 26 years the main reason I purchased the property I'm living in was because it's 180 degree views of shomar golf course from my backyard I always dreamed of living on a golf course as one of my favorite hobbies and sports growing up in addition I always met the finest and best people in my life in and around a golf course since I was 8 years old shomar is not just a golf course it's a place to meet enjoy your long-term friends or meet new wonderful people I've met and made many friends including my best friend and current girlfriend because of hang Al shomar I was heavily involved in a annual United Golf Classic Tournament which raised money for underprivileged junior golfers in the Southeast Valley the proceed went to the pro John Gumby at shelmar as he was a Southeast Regional director knew the best way to spend the $100,000 plus funds that we gave him over 11 years or so none of this would be possible without shalomar it was a regional if was home to the regional director for junior golf at the time and birthplace of The Uninvited Golf Association which ran the tournament yes it's true golf courses can be a good thing and affect many people's lives profoundly even shamore for instance part of the proceeds for one year's tournament our Uninvited group was able to send a young man Andrew to the junior RS when he was about 12 years old he qualified for the tournament due to long range sessions and tireless chipping and putting drills on shmer practice greens this gave him the confidence and skills to qualify for the roal Jers however he and his parents who needed to shaer on him were not in a financial position to go to the vent that's when John Gumby stepped in and asked our group if it's okay to use some of the money to allow him to participate in junior junior World Golf World it was a unanimous SYM yes from the undivided board to send him and his minister to the event after the event he reported on a postcard that he did very well and graciously thank our group over and over again for support and a lifetime memory all because the shomar existed as a golf course please do not reone shomar as it will crush lots of dreams good times and great memories for me and many other people thank you thank you the next speaker I have this evening is Sarah O'Neal please come forward state your name and place of residence you have three minutes hi U my name is Sarah Jan odneal thank you for listening to the neighbors tonight uh I'm in I live in Tempe and I'm here talking about shalomar I do live close to shalomar but I'm not a golfer I've lived in timi a long long time I've seen a lot of development uh when I moved here there were only two high schools go Buffs and I I remember when there was a livestock sail yard on the corner of M and Baseline so lots of development some of it good some of it not so good but the reason that shalomar is important as far as I'm concerned because I'm not a golfer is that um the green space that's open allows for urban Wild Life and birds I'm a birder you notice the gray hair I didn't wear my binoculars but that is the badge and we do enjoy seeing the wildlife and on top of that we need to consider what we're going to leave future Generations we only have so much open space we can't put houses everywhere we need to consider the heat island effect and what we're doing to our city I thank you for taking my words into consideration I hope you'll leave some green space there there is room for compromise but I'm kind of hoping for a park thank you thank you the next speaker I have is C next speaker I have is Curtis Wood please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes good evening I'm Curtis wood uh thank you mayor and Council for giving us this opportunity to speak I bet you know why I'm here to speak tonight um I'm a resident of Tempe I do not live on the golf course I live close enough by though that I I'm concerned about the traffic that's going to be coming but I just wanted you to consider for this possible resoning request imagine decades ago you bought a house on a lake and you're one of 150 homeowners around this Lake and somebody comes in and says hey we're going to fill in this lake with dirt we're going to put 150 houses on it that changes the value of your property immensely it goes from lak Shore property to something else we have a similar situation here and that one person's property value is going to be increased by the possibility of this rezoning and everyone around it is going to be uh lessened and we have a lot of speakers that speak about the Green Space thing which is important uh and that type of stuff Heat centers and all that kind of stuff but I would just like you to consider that very simple value proposition for the homeowners in surrounding that area thank you good night thank you so much the next speaker I have is Kelly choyou and just to know too we can't have any Applause of the chambers I apologize but Kelly can come forward hi mayor and Council how are you doing good how are you good also need to introduce your your friend here as well oh yes uh my name is Kelly Scher I live in nor Tempe um proud native to Arizona um and that my sidekick is this is Kujo welcome I just wanted to say thank you so much for all your hard work uh at the city um I just I did come in today uh but it was confiscated at the front uh I brought some wonderful youed syringes that are now turning up uh more often on Indian binash Path and between melops and Curry um and there is definitely more glass and trash um I think because the weather is getting better I just wanted to bring that to your attention because um not only did we almost step on it but he almost stepped on it and for us or especially for me um I really don't want my dog to die because of um drugs or or any of the the tent foil that has residue um so that's a concern for me um but outside of that that's I just wanted to make you aware of that and just want to say again thank you for all your hard work at the city thank you thank you the next speaker I have is Marion choyou please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes good evening mayor and members of the city council I'm going to read my notes because I'm not as good of a speaker um my name is Marion and my wife and I live near Indian B pathway and I commute by bike every day uh to my office located at Rio salad and Mill Avenue um yesterday morning while walking our dog along the pathway we encountered some concerning issues that I feel compelled to bring to your attention um as we walked towards uh Scottdale so North uh or do NE stepped on an UNCA needle lying right there on the path and at the end of the path uh we encountered a homeless individual sleeping next to a cart full of wires and scrap metal the pathway itself is also in poor condition uh as a daily bike commuter I see firstand the impression the sleeves on residents and visitors uh especially when you transition from the beautiful area of scotdale uh to Tempe us your St contrast uh the Tempe side does look neglected uh there's also an accumulation of trash in homeless individual Gatherings uh Gathering under the bridge the north side of temp toown lake under the chu uh and many have dogs off leash uh I've personally been chased once uh last week uh by one of these dogs um this is not just an issue of Aesthetics uh it's about safety if we want to encourage more people to use sustainable Transportation like biking we need to provide safe and clean routes for them to travel um additionally I've noticed a rise in motorcycle uh motor motorized vehicles on the pathway uh from motorized bikes and mopeds to even uh more recently contractors that are working for these scooter sharing companies they drive along uh on the path to collect the scooters this creates a dangerous situation for cyclists and pedestrians alike I urge the city council to consider initiatives to clean up and maintain these Pathways address the growing uh encampments and regulate motorized traffic creating a safe and welcoming environments for cyclists and pedestrians is key to fostering community that prioritize alternative transportation and sustainable living thank you for your time and consideration thank you so much appreciate it that is all the comments I have this evening for general public appearances uh is there everyone else I have I think is for other specific items on the agenda Mr Mayor I think I think there is one more Kevin Walsh on your list Mr Walsh yes please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes thank you Mr mayor council members my name is Kevin Walsh I'm a longtime Tempe resident I'm also the proud governing board president of the kyne school district as you know kyne has six fantastic schools in the City of Tempe as well as our district office I also have four kids here in Tempe and I'm talking to you about the affordable housing project that's being proposed at the corner of Guadalupe and kirne so my kids and I chose to live in this neighborhood like so many of us because of the strength of the schools in Tempe and last week at our governing board meeting we heard about the main reasons that teachers are leaving kirne it's not compensation it's commute commute is one of the top reasons and when we talk to the city council and I know you support public education what is one of the things that you have an impact on the most important resource that we can offer our kids not curriculum not school buses it's our people it's our teachers it's our staff and we're finding that as this great City continues to have higher and higher cost of living and unfortunately the State of Arizona is not giving us sufficient funding to provide a commensurate match and wages our teachers can't afford to live in Tempe anymore so they're moving and we can't blame them for that they're moving out to theast Valley where they need teachers too and why would they commute 30 to 45 minutes on the two of2 and rush hour when they can find a job down the street so our teachers are leaving our Tempe Schools and our kids are the ones that are suffering because these amazing teachers are no longer in our Tempe classrooms the project that's being proposed could really be a step forward in helping that to provide affordable housing for people who really need it who live in our community who can work in our community and I know you may hear from people who have thoughts on the character of this community but I can tell you the most important way to keep property values high in temp is to keep strong schools and we cannot possibly keep strong schools if we cannot attract and retain talented teachers and staff so I do implore you to consider and support supporting affordable housing opportunities especially in this development that can help keep teachers and First Responders in our community thank you thank you that is all the speakers I have under public appearances is there anyone else wishing to address the city council on General Public appearances if so please get my attention all right seeing none I will close that portion of the meeting and I will move to item number seven which is our consent agenda for this evening all items listed on the consent agenda will be considered as a group and will be enacted with one motion by the city council unless an item is removed for separate consider ation members of the public May remove public hearing items for separate consideration public hearing items are designated as public hearing item at the beginning of the item title council members May remove any item for separate consideration or to declare a conflict of interest if a council member would like to declare a conflict at this time the city clerk will provide the council member with a disclosure form if you wish to speak about a public hearing item please fill out a speaker card and submit your completed card to the city clerk prior to the agenda item coming forward for Council discussion I will call your name when it is your turn for for public Comet this evening the consent agenda is listed as miscellaneous items 7 A1 through 7 A9 Awards of bids and contracts items 7b1 through 7b1 and resolutions items 7 C1 through 7 C12 once again any agenda item designated as public hearing item can be removed by a member of the public for separate consideration if anyone would like to have a public hearing item removed please get my attention now okay seeing none uh Council any agenda items you'd like to removed from the consent agenda for separate consideration it's been moved by vice mayor gar seconded by council member Hajj please vote Yes and and that item passes unanimously 7 to zero that brings me to the non-consent agenda and what I might do here I want to make sure that we take item 88 A1 one but I think I might move another item up here because I think most of the people remaining are here to speak on one item so just to make sure once again that you're not sitting here all night as we continue to conduct business I will move that item up so let's go to first of all item number eight non-consent agenda all items listed on the non-consent agenda will be considered separately agenda item scheduled for introduction in first hearing will be heard but will not be voted upon at this meeting agenda item scheduled for second public hearing and final adoption will be voted upon tonight council members who may have a conflict of interest May stain from voting on a matter and the city clerk will provide the council members with a disclosure form at this time first up we have item 8A miscellaneous items bids contracts and resolutions first up is item 8 A1 which is to hold a public hearing and adopt a resolution to approve design and placemaking principles for Southwest Tempe character area 6 plan dated October 2024 which encompasses generally the city lands east of the Interstate 10 freeway south of the us60 freeway generally west of the KY alignment and north of the city boundary the applicant is the City of Tempe uh M are you here to give a presentation this evening ah and Jacob as well yeah Jacob I also want to know where you got that tie so we got to talk later good evening Council and uh mayor my name is for the recordar principal planner Community Development Jacob P senior planner in the same Department uh here we'll spend just a few minutes very quickly to give you an overview of the Southwest M car area 6 plan and the plan does um um align with various of the council priorities and performance measures on strong Community Connection quality of life and also sustainable growth and development many of those items are listed here we will very briefly talk about the character areia planning process that's been going on in the last N9 months and also the public consultation an overview that Jacob will provide and I'll come back and provide very quickly the plan highlights of this 75 Page Long document and then also the last couple slides on the adoption timeline and this needs only one hearing which is today and the planning process actually began in January and as you know there are eight car areas in City of Tempe plans for the six of them have already been completed the one that we're talking about the character area six which is the Southwest temp character area the border and the plan on the map is on the right side so these are the six completed character area plans uh just a cover page for your information the character area plans are non-regulatory they high level policy and the um non-regulatory advisory plans uh the vision is very often crafted by the community and we do that through lots of consultation that Jacob will talk about the charia plans are very taken very seriously by the city because we use them as the community's vision and plan with aspirations so it's the community's plan it's a community-driven plan we use this as a reference for application for any development project when people apply we take every principle that is in the plan to see what is relevant for that particular project and then also it's a very important reference for the staff the development review commission and the council while we review any of the projects within that particular character the area and then also when the city is making an investment public investment like in the median or forestry or any of the Improvement on the infrastructure we take the character area plan uh situation kind of quite seriously to see what are the guidance and what are the ideas here is a very brief synopsis of what the Southwest temp character area looks like about 6 square miles of area about 28,000 people the median is slightly higher than the city-wise uh age 33 years uh the household income is also slightly higher uh the housing units and the school diplomas are pretty proportional to what the rest of the city is happening but uh in this particular character area there's like 70% uh renter uh sip compared to about 60% Citywide so that's kind of one difference and very quickly the area many of you know the staff also kind of drives around and takes pictures uh is dominated by multif family and single family residential lot of uh Regional destinations and big boxes like autop plexes in Arizona Mills Ikea Costco and it's also crease crossed by three canals Western Highline lateral Ken Branch lots of business areas and then also the sports complex railway tracks and some vacant sites there are some pictures that the staff has taken just to give a glimpse of how the area looks like just to give you a mental image and the visual character of the area with the canals Landscaping the signs some interesting buildings out there some of the big boxes and many places that we know as destinations and multif family units and other resident unit in the area now Jacob will talk quickly about the public Outreach process and provide highlights thank youa um good evening Mar Council again Jacob Payne senior planner City of Tempe Community Development um so I'm just going to cover really quickly um our three-phase program of public involvement that we um had done for this uh character area plan so as am mentioned this is uh nine months in the work um so we started off with a kickoff meeting um and an open survey um that was online this was kind of our visioning stage where we wanted to bring in residents and stakeholders see what kind of ideas and principles that we needed to incorporate in this document um so we held a virtual one and an inperson one at Wood Elementary School in the character area um and then you'll also see we like to show up at parks commercial plazas apartment complexes within the area at an attempt to meet some people where they're at um as opposed to people coming to us um so that kind of wraps up in uh March where we move into our second phase of our public involvement for this plan um we did an activity called theocracy um which is the combination.

Democracy it's a way for us to gauge um prioritization of certain princi principles that we um were able to draft based on the involvement that we had had at that point um so we conducted that meeting virtually and in person again um as well as had a survey version of it available online um it's during this phase that we had some focus group meetings with stakeholder um organizations in the area um so among those we did a faith and business um group as well as nonprofits um and we also had a meeting um with senior in the area being that the Medan age of this area is higher than the average of the city we wanted to sure that we were capturing um the opinions of that demographic um and then again we um did SM reach at parks and plazas in the area as well as um some targeted Outreach for apartment communities within the character area being that um a higher percentage of of the households in the area are renters we wanted to make sure we weren't missing um their opinions and voices on this process um during phase two is also when we uh visited some of the city's boards and commissions that are relevant to this process um so things like the neighborhood advisory commission Transportation historic preservation sustainability resilience parks and wreck as well as the development review commission and the municipal Arts commission um so we had a very busy March um following that we had our draft plan so once we had something in hand we uh made that available online and followed it up with uh more Outreach meetings giving a chance for people to uh have read the draft before we um went out there to kind of get a feel as to what needed to be changed anything we might have missed or extra emphasis to be placed on certain aspects of it um so along with the draft release we had another online survey as well as an inperson and virtual meeting uh and then at that point uh we also came and brought our draft to those boards and commissions that we uh visited earlier in the year and um once again uh did some Outreach at parks and uh apartment complexes within the area um just some highlights of some um non-standard public involvement that we did to um encre encourage Outreach um we did a feature in the Wrangler news um which is a publication of wide distribution in this area um so that was very helpful for us to get the word out and we also did some incentives for taking our surveys and giving us input so this is um a screenshot of that incentive where we were giving away some movie tickets um just encourage getting involved with City Planning processes um with that I'll hand it back over to am and he'll give a highlight of the document off thank you Jacob mayor and Council I'll give you a very brief overview of the document that you've looked at the document has a table of content basically start with introduction purpose of the plan major tra of the Southwest temp character area we provide a brief history for the sake of the people and for like a record and then also how the plan was a Community Driven process through a public process and there are 14 different elements that we have addressed in this particular plan each one of them has about 10 principles so about 140 different principles that we have used typically the character area plans we base it on the previous character area plans a little bit and also anything that has happened since then like the general plan transportation area master plan many other plans that we have done and then what we hear from the public so it's like you know combination and culmination of a lot of effort so that's the title cover page uh that you see on the left side and each one of those the document is structur with those 14 principles with the Preamble and goals on the top and then also the number of principles that are highlighted just below that just to tell you how to achieve those goals and then there are embeded images I have all the 14 ones I'm not going to read them I just going to give you an example on how they are kind of organized so for example the first one is climate change and extreme heat management a lot of these kind of priorities came through the public consultation we also went to the school the Young Generation of people University uh uh educated people lot of idealism about green infrastructure climate change and the extreme heat management so there will be preambles and goals that are kind of listed in the first few paragraphs then for example in this one has 10 principle that are kind of listed that we've gone through like Jacob mentioned through one or two or three iteration of the draft that people felt comfortable lots of people actually edited the document just like the general plan and we took their ideas and we were told that uh they were very happy with the way that we listen to them and we uh honor the input uh the next one is green infrastructure and green buildings similar type of um Preamble and the planning and design principle with 11 principles energy conservation today we had this uh uh announcement uh about the energy conservation and Energy Efficiency that the city really Prides on Landscaping shade which is very important open space public gathering spaces walkable environment many people are very much concern concerned about wable environment so we have actually 13 principles that support the wable environment in the area anytime someone proposes a plan anytime the city wants to make any investment we look at those principles as guidance on how we could actually Mass the public aspiration and on what we provide preserving neighborhood character was another element that we have gone into quite a bit of detail with 10 principles then canal side back design a lot of seniors actually wanted to volunteer to clean it up and make it much more attractive uh to make use of the canal side and so we have kind of have design guidelines for the canal side part design on this document historic preservation many buildings will become historic eligible very soon so we have all of those things considered on that mobility and connectivity we got really a lot of feedback on this one circulators buses bike paths multi-use Trails how people walk and all of that and even Hawk signals we have Prov provided some of the uh recommendations and where they could be in consultation with the transportation department we've also gone to the high quality building design and materials because every time we review a plan we want to make sure that even the color doesn't absorb a lot of heat you know we don't like a lot of black colors for example and then we've talked about the building materials and then affordable housing and Asing in place that we talked about today there was somebody who spoke about it it's also kind of at length addressed with nine principles public art again another very important element with five principles and especially after pandemic the last principles is the public health friendly planning that we become very aware after the pandemic that uh any design any planning that we do is also Public Health friendly now we've also provided some examples of what we think is kind of you know good quality best practices design building materials s public Arts treatment of the garage all of that into the picture in the appendices so people can take a look at it on how we visual Iz some of those kind of things U some of more pictures there are many more pictures in that one now very quickly there was like eight and a half months project that Jacob talked about we began January 24th today is October 1 and so we pretty much at the end of it very quickly we released the draft we gave quite a bit of time to the community to give us input on June 14th when went back to the uh community and also the commissions and then we went to the DRC and September 10th they voted unanimously by vote of 70 to recommend approval of this one and today here we are with you with the council uh we need only one hearing and one vote uh here is the core team a lot more people are involved if you have any questions you'll be pleaseed to answer but thank you very much thank you very much for the presentation Council Brams yes a couple points I want to commend you for the sustainability uh Focus that you had you have trees green building codes um all kinds of and and things to cool off our environment so that's super important so thank you for doing that um I like that you how much you reached out to the residents I think it's so important to reach out and include everyone there because they're the experts in their own neighborhoods so I'm really glad that you reached out to the residents and they participated well and it sounds like it went really well so that's good um I like it that you have affordable housing um in the project and and I also like the time frame this was a really nice time frame of what you did we didn't take years you know right so good job on that and uh I appreciate it thank you very much good job thank you appreciate it before we go to additional comments I want to make sure I go to the public hearing that I can come back to council for comments afterwards so I'll go ahead and bring these folks up I have one person uh for public comment this evening and that is uh Beth Thompson please come forward state your name and city of residents you have three minutes howdy thank you I'm Beth Thompson I'm a resident of Tempe and when I heard other people talking I was like oh my goodness I've been here since 1980 it's a long time so I've seen a lot of changes too my parents were here the Sheep were here the cotton was here so we've been here a long time um I wanted to thank Amba and um Jacob and Brenda and shaa for the effort that they put into this whole project the history the the whole thing is wonderful you hear a lot of complaints but I did want to thank them for their dedication to the planning process of our character area their research was amazing but even more so was they way they got out into the community and um asked us for our input they listened they adopted they were really really good so I wanted to thank them for all the opportunities the surveys and that's it wonderful thank you so much appreciate it thank you is there anyone else in the audience wishing to address the Council on item eight A1 if so please get my attention all right seeing none I will close the public testimony portion of the public hearing and I will move back to council are there any further comments or discussions on item uh 881 uh vice mayor Garland I was gonna say I think it's a really very nice character area booklet that you guys put together I've read the other ones um and I just was really impressed with the I like the colors that everybody was looking at I love the the Outreach as as Council M Adam said um I also like that you said twice Jacob that you reached out to people that live in apartment complexes because just because they live in apartment complex does not mean they're not part of the community so I really appreciate that that you did that I think that that's really important um but I just want to say thank you so much for what you did I really like these character areas and I think they're important to our residents and I'm just glad that you included them and in this process all the way so thank you thank you anyone else any further comments or questions on item 8 A1 if not I will entertain a motion it's been moved by Council Adams and seconded by Council barj please vote Yes yes for me okay yes sir me too okay and that item passes seven to zero all right next I apologize I'm going to move some things around here because once again I see the majority of the speakers are here for one item and I want to make sure that we always try to prioritize those items which means I'm going to move on here to item 8 C2 which is to hold the second and final public hearing to adopt an ordinance for a zoning map Amendment from pcc1 to R5 a planned area development overlay to modified development standards for building setbacks and a development plan review for a new three-story multif family residential development consisting of 229 dwelling units on 7.69 acres for cavana kirene located at at 5:15 West Guadalupe Road the applicant is gamage and Burnham Miss Vos good evening good evening mayor members of the council for your record M laas law firm of gamage and Burnham um I made a lengthy presentation last week and I know we have a lot of people who want to speak so I'm going to try to focus my presentation on some things that I've talked to some of uh The Neighbors about I've just heard some comments so I thought without going through the whole presentation I did want to just address some things and then I certainly would like to come back and answer any comments that we may hear from the public just to uh start again I'm here tonight on behalf of green light communities with me tonight are both Rob LS and Dan Richards who are here and happy to answer any questions we talked about greenl believes everybody deserves a place to feel proud about where they live and that includes having a new place right like not everybody you know what we're trying to do is provide Workforce housing but a new a new house that has new amenities nice things that are talked about in the character area plan Community gathering places and not that the other apartments or in the area are not nice but you know the question is do you want to try to give someone a new place or a 30-year-old place and that's kind of what we're talking about so green light's goal was to try to compete with the market rate for class A Apartments but do it at a Workforce price so that does mean that it is similar to to a 30-year-old apartment but it's brand new place and so their goal is to provide attainable and affordable housing within Workforce not affordable using government subsidies and as we talked about you know there it's a non-subsidized housing option affordable to housing households which we'll talk about with incomes between 60 and 100 and I think you said and Jacob may have average attainable income is about 75,000 here and when we're talking about these communities and we've seen are healthcare workers education with the KY School Board member military construction food surface workers service workers a lot of retail people who there's a lot of jobs up and down in that area in the southwest area you saw that that um slide from Jacob again here are just some of the green light properties we can talk about them and colors I just wanted to show to you I I want to show you two things because I've had lots of conversations about colors and trees um I think the rendering didn't work out as well so I do want to show two things this is the kyne road elevation but let me show this really quickly I think this is the best way to talk about it on kirne road the building itself is set back the first thing you see are going to see are trees which you don't see now then these are carports where it says 13 and then you have a drive a and then you have another set of carports and then you have a building so it's not like you're going to go down kirene and just see a straight line building and the way this is set up is you have a lot of permeability because as you drive on kirene you have access into the site you'll see trees first then you'll see a lot of access permeating between the buildings and as you if you see this building here where like where the six is is about 100 120 feet away from kyne if you look at here here is kyne Road um right now the industrial building is going industrial those buildings are closer to kyne than this apartment building is going to be on kyne so I just want to give you that perspective in terms of what already is there but also to show you we have the one thing we've tried to do is design a lot of permeability and looking into the site with Landscaping so even from Guadalupe and I'm showing you another picture what I we have done is pushed the all the buildings interior to the site I last time talked a lot about the neighbors but I will also talk about KY Road the building that is closer to the road is Guadalupe on Guadalupe I have pushed the building closer to Guadalupe but at the same time that entrance has two entrances and the Circle K and it faces the school district office so we thought we could push the buildings there again lots of landscaping open space things that are granted and also talked about in the southwest area character study but just to show you how that building looks briefly so what you kind of see this is a little bit of kirne it's hard to see but so again landscape ing you'll have a view fence then you have a carport then you have Landscaping you'll have a drive AIS and then the buildings push back you will also have kind of pop outs the buildings are designed so there's a lot of articulation you can't see as well on those renderings to kind of those kind of 2D renderings are hard but you kind of you can kind of see the articulation and the um AR architectural enhancements that are done we have uh aluminum kind of metal siding on all the corners and on the third level to give it more interest and pop out so you're going to have this is going to be an interesting looking building that you would see kind of in other areas so just again here's a little bit of a picture of what you kind of see you can kind of see the articulation as it exist there oops sorry I just want to go through just a couple other things and I'm happy to kind of go through all them but again we talked a lot about the Southwest Tempe character area we have met you know certainly we have spded that we meet the sustainable design principles they talked about increased Landscaping you know this currently doesn't have any we have almost 50% Landscaping rainwater har harvesting we have integrated Community Gathering spaces that are accessible to our community we encourage mobility and connectivity by putting people closer to their jobs and it also talks a lot about promoting Workforce housing including that plan specifically talks about having three and four story walk-ups it talks about that specifically identifies missing middle housing in that plan the other thing I wanted to kind of give you a sense of the existing zoning is pcc1 the average height the building height maximum is 35 ft so I want to show you something this is the current building the way the city measures the building height they measure from top of the curve but this is the building from the finished floor the top of the building to the roof is 33 ft that is less than the currently allowed maximum Building height on that site you can build a 35 foot office building on that site right now we have it is taller because you have a parit and we have some embellishments as I showed you architectural embellishments they're increasing the height to 38 ft but the building itself could be the grocery store that's allowed could be 35 ft would be taller than this building and then we talked about sight lines our sight lines the top one is the 80 ft from second floor you know if you have a three-story building they're going to look directly into the trees they're not looking into someone's backyard and again as you remember all of our windows and the front door and we've tried to put all the Living Spaces interior so you're not looking you no one's just looking into other people's looking in the parking lot but we've tried to do this so that we've spread it out and when you're 150 ft away you have a lot of things in between you and the sight line as you look down but what's actually approved on that site right now is a grocery store that's 40t away that is a site plot that's a site plan that's approved this you could have a grocery store building 40 feet away from your back wall and then have a food truck come see you and instead of having sight lines in what the neighbors would see is this a wall you know against their window with maybe some Landscaping versus this which is kind of what we were talking about in that same direction and the same height trying to add more Landscaping try to add some more open space I mean I understand it's a dirt lot change is hard and we have a new dirt lot but what is allowed now is a 35- fft building and what basically proposing is that same building with a lot more landscaping and more open space the general plan allows 45 dwelling units PCC allows 15 we're asking for around 30 so less than the general plan more Landscaping but what we've done is devised something that gives you the community space that's talked about in the area plan you can see this designed in pod so we encourage Community Gathering spaces we encourage going throughout the site and we encourage just activity up and down kirne so you can walk up and down kirne and go to Benedict park or you know walk down to the new Better Buzz at the corner of kirene and Elliot so here's a picture of the site I can talk about traffic but for the moment maybe I'll stop or I'm happy to answer any questions all right thank you so much uh anyone on Council any comments or questions from the Spas oh yes Council branberg just a real quick question and it's about that back wall it uh this one that one there you go yep so in your plan it's six feet and I just wanted to make sure like who did you go and talk to to make sure that they're okay with that the six foot wall or the the six foot wall well this is this is this picture is a is a picture of the existing six foot wall I think we have a condition of approv of approval that the code requires we put an 8ot wall there so it'll either be an adjacent 8 foot wall or we will put together something that they will have an additional two feet that we have to do as part of this condition and the other thing I wanted to mention just I know I've had some comments with people um you know for those of you I know the council is certainly familiar with this but the way the development review process works this becomes a specific site plan right so if I say that this height is sorry Ryan um like these are our site plans they were approved this is the site plan this is the height this is the height that it will be if there are any changes we would have to go back to this public heing process so this is approved for a three-story building you know regardless if this gets approved this is what we're requesting we're not asking for it's not going to magically become larger this is exactly we have to build to what is approved if you all approve it okay sounds good anyone else any further comments or questions oh yes Council oh no okay sounds good okay um is there any more to the presentation that you wanted to add or well I thought it would just wait I sure if you want give you those highlights and answer some questions and I'm happy to certainly answer more okay sounds good okay thank you so much appreciate it all right so let's go here to the public testimony portion here for the public hearing uh I've got a number of speakers here so please bear with me but we're going to go ahead and take these in the order uh that they are received the first Speaker I have this evening is Jan Thompson please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes hello Jan Thompson City of Tempe I'm one of the few original homeowners of Tempe Royal Estates phase one having lived in the same home on South Roosevelt for 45 years I've obviously seen enormous changes over this time but the present proposed change is wrong for our neighborhood Tempe Royal Estates has become an island in a sea of literally hundreds of Apartments which I could name while multif family housing has grown to surround our neighborhood hood on all sides we have recently lost several of the businesses that were important assets to our development the Albertson on Guadalupe Road and the postal substation on Rural and Guadalupe both vanished and left us without a nearby grocery store drugstore or post office I attended character area discussions in our neighborhood where neighbors urged the city to plan for replacement of those services that were lost we need a grocery store restaurants postal station Medical Offices or other services to be built on the site not more apartments and definitely not three-story Apartments I'd like to know whether the city is considering changing any zoning in the character area surrounding more affluent homes in the Warner mlto neighborhoods or South to Ray Road are there any plans for three-story apartments near Warner Estates or buav Vista Ranch or is our neighbor the neighborhood the only one where zoning can be changed to three-story Apartments I'm beatly opposed to the Aesthetics of the present project a three-story institutional looking engulfing our single family homes developers promised attractive Landscaping but I seen little of that in the photos of previous projects I oppose the traffic congestion the dangerous points of entry and exit near kirne and Guadalupe these could easily become points of gridlock during morning and evening rush hours I oppose the noise the potential rise in crime and drug use and the number of cars and people that would be crowded into this space now incidentally also a school zone I oppose this project because it devalues the property of all the homes in of my neighbors in Tempe Royal Estates the council must vote no on this project keep this property zoned commercial as it always has been and as promised in the character area plan what good was the time and money invested in the character area plan if it can already be bought off by a developer who could care less about our existing neighborhood we trust you the council to have our interest longtime residents of Tempe at heart at the very least modify this plan and limit it to two-story Apartments I'll close with this the city expects its homeowners to approve millions of dollars in bond issues in the forthcoming election I have always been in favor of these kinds of Capital Improvements to the city I love and have thrived in for nearly 50 years but the same city that seeks those improvements should not choose to devalue our neighborhood by approving Cabana kyne in spite of the significant opposition expressed in our 200 6 signature petition and by those of us here in person tonight thank you thank you so much okay next up I have Gabe Hagen please come forward state your name and city of residents you have three minutes good evening uh council members my name is Gabe Hagen I am a City of Tempe resident and a business owner here in Tempe um and I'm actually here on behalf of my employees and many other employees in the service industry um they spoke of a previous letter I just found out about it yesterday so at 10:00 last night I sent out a letter to my staff and my other business owners and within overnight period I was able to get third over 30 employees to sign on in support of this produ project many of these people that signed on to this letter work tirelessly in our cafes restaurants shops and even our schools as we heard earlier they're proud to serve the community but they struggle with the reality of being priced out of the neighborhoods to help sustain them one of my Baristas K as an example shared that they have to work four jobs to make in Meet despite growing up in South temp B they said this is my community and my home I want to be able to afford to have life beyond working affordable housing like this project will make that a realistic realistic for me and other service workers Shelby who works over at drinkme tea room in South Tempe expressed how current housing prices make it impossible for them to move out of their parents' home even though they're ready to live independently they seek abanana kirne as an opportunity to finally take that step another voice that stood out was Julie a former service worker and current staff member ASU who said we need people to be able to live work and play in their communities without depending on long commutes it's beyond time to carve out space for hardworking people in our communities and it's not just service workers who are feeling the struggle others who signed on like Brian who owns a owns a home in Tempe recognized the importance of expanding affordable housing for all people who want to live and work here he reminded us that quote we need to counter the small loud minority who push back on any proposal to build in our neighborhoods this is a common sense affordable option that is badly needed for our community these voices here represent a much larger group of individual many of whom can't come to these things because they work in the service industry where they're at work right now I have an employee trying to get here Cabana kirne isn't just about adding more units it's about giving people a chance to belong to be part of the communities that they enrich they enrich every day as promised I brought the letter full the full letter along with the personal comments from all 30 plus signatures that show the depth of support this project has within the service industry I urge you to consider their voices their struggles and their hopes as you make your decision thank you for your time and your consideration thank you so much the next speaker I have is in the virtual audience it's Sarah James Miss James can you hear me hi Miss James can you hear me uh can you unmute okay I'm unmuted there you go uh please state your name and city of residence you have three minutes thank you my name is Sarah James I do currently reside in Chandler a few steps away from Tempe because when we moved back to Tempe we could not afford to live there I grew up in Tempe I moved there when I in 1979 when I was just a baby I taught in the Tempe Elementary School District and I am currently serving on the temp Union High School District governing board I'm speaking tonight to express my support of Cabana Karen and hopes that our community will see the value and also support this project I don't think I need to spend too much time talking about the financial hardship that most teachers face teachers cannot afford to have our families on health benefits we see the cost of living rise year after year but our districts cannot afford to match that increase every year we spend our own money on our classrooms and on our students every single year just just to provide basic necessities it's hard to be a teacher in most places but in Arizona it gets harder until it almost becomes prohibitive and I say that having left the profession after 25 years a profession I love and I'm good at in the midst of this Doom and Gloom though we have a Beacon of Hope and Tempe our schools have a partnership with the city that have positive impacts on our students our staff and our entire Community I have seen our city council try to find ways to help provide teachers with affordable housing only to see our state legislature make such actions impossible fortunately we have a tenacious Council and we are being presented with this amazing option that will provide affordable housing not just to teachers but to other essential workers as well and I so appreciate Gabe Hagen's perspective on that and his dedication to his employees I hope our community can see the value in Cabana kirne and welcome this project to our city we have enough roadblocks at the state level so we need to come together to support each other and embrace projects such as cavanah Kye Tempe is such a unique and wonderful City and our teachers and essential workers deserve to have a chance to live here and raise their children here I value what Tempe gave me throughout my childhood I wish I could afford to live in Tempe now and I hope that other teachers and other essential workers will have the opportunity to enjoy the city that I love thank you thank you the next speaker I have this evening is Melissa harand please come forward state your name and city of residents you have three minutes hi mayor and Council uh my name is Melissa Harland I have lived in Tempe over 20 years in South Tempe specifically over 20 years and I'm currently the owner of drink me tea room and drink me tea and treats um at Warner and kirne um as a small business owner in South temp I seen firsthand how the high cost of housing um is affecting our community especially service workers I employ 15 dedicated individuals with my two businesses that are located there and they work very hard every day to provide a wonderful experience for South Tempe residents um however most of them face long commute and or have to spend a huge portion of their income just to live in Tempe um Gabe already mentioned one of my employees that can't afford to move out of her parents house to live in Tempe as well um as just one of the examples um affordable housing is vital for creating a thriving Community when workers can live closer to their jobs it means more than convenience it strengthens our local economy if my employees could afford to live in Tempe they'd be spending more money in Tempe as well supporting other local small businesses like mine um and gabes um that's how we keep money circulating in our community helping everyone succeed by supporting Cabana kirne and other affordable housing in temp we're investing in the our local Workforce our businesses and the future of South dumpy let's build a community where the people who work here can afford to live here and in turn help our economy grow thank you thank you the next speaker I have is Hillary Golson please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes hi my name is Hillary I'm a resident of Britney Lane and I've also been a teacher for almost 10 years while I understand the desire for the development I must reiterate that this rezoning proposal for Cabana kyne does not meet the needs of our community a mixed use development similar to the culda tempy with a light color scheme would provide much greater long-term value and I strongly urge the council to reconsider the R5 zoning for this project first teachers like myself and other essential workers who just to mention don't even make close to the median area income quoted the 75,000 are not looking to live in tiny studio and one-bedroom apartments these 468 square foot units are simply not practical nor do they provide the quality of life we're seeking I know this has been framed as a benefit for these workers but I can assure you the prices are not a discount at $1,300 minimum monthly which is not affordable for us teachers I know looking for homes where they can build Roots they're looking for building roots not cramp spaces in a transient complex the specific proposal as it stands currently doesn't align with what the people in this community need I also want to remind the Council of something one of you pointed out yourselves there's only a Circle K and the worst McDonald's in town on the corner the residents in the area are living in a food desert we don't have a grocery store or a Market within miles of this area this proposal doesn't address the need for essential services and Better Living options that would make the community more livable adding more high density Apartments without those necessary amenities just exacerbates the problem there are also serious safety and design concerns the building height and in consistency is troubling the application lists 50 ft but the developer's letter mentions 41 ft and tonight they mention 33 ft I urge the council to limit this to three leasable stories at Max of current 35 ft to avoid unnecessary height incre height increases then the propos setback reduction on the pad overlay from 20 feet to just n9ine ft with some sleeping areas only 2 and 1/2 ft from The Pedestrian walkways is unacceptable this is a significant safety risk especially given the ongoing investigation into traffic safety along Guadalupe Road please deny this reduction and prioritize safety lastly the perimeter wall adjacent to single family homes must meet the city's zoning code for an 8ft masonry barrier to protect nearby residents from noise privacy concerns and other intrusions the existing six foot wall simply isn't enough and I ask the council to enforce the proper code here in closing I urge you not to improve this R5 resoning as is the long-term consequences including reduced property values lack of amenities and poor living conditions outweigh any short-term gains if this project moves forward at the very ensure your conditions are outlined thank you thank you the next speaker is Zack gamza please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes thank you for the opportunity my name is Zach GS I'm from Chandler Arizona but I a local business owner in Tempe uh I'm here to voice my support for the gabana kyne project and to correct the record on some misconceptions about the impact of affordable housing on a community uh the opponents of this project genuinely believe that this will increase crime and traffic congestion may also lower property values fortunately for the community the data firmly supports the opposite conclusion the City of Tempe has already assessed the traffic situation and determined that it would not increase congestion especially not compared to commercial property development um I also want to point out the multiple studies most notably the UC Irvine study in 20122 found that the construction of affordable housing does not increase crime and in fact does increase property values their study found that affordable housing actually increased property values to $166,000 this is in 2022 uh now as far as Aesthetics I can't speak as an indiv you know for personal taste but I have to imagine that an apartment complex would be more appealing than a vacant lot the City of Tempe as aely represented by this council is known to be Progressive diverse City welcoming to all demographics the reputation is earned by supporting evidence-based policies and initiatives that boost the whole Community including the workers who make the city run this proposal fully supports those aims and sends a message to service workers young professionals families and seniors the Tempe is for them and on a personal level uh my wife and I moved out here from New York and we fell in love with Tempe when we moved here she went to ASU to get her PhD incidentally I find when people talk about the criminal element of renters as renters my wife with a PhD in chemistry doesn't quite fit the bill as a criminal element but we want to put down roots in Tempe and unfortunately we were priced out of staying here as we were trying to develop our careers and we had to move out to Chandler now we're well established in our careers and we spent our disposable money from on businesses in Chandler not tempul we wanted to be so if you want people to stay and contribute to this community then we need to make it affordable to live here and not just for ourselves for our kids and our grandkids Who currently live want to stay here they want to remain in Tempe where they grew up and the affordable housing crisis is preventing them so for all the people here who are all about the community your kids and your grandkids are going to be moving away from you because they can't afford to live here so please consider that as you consider this bill this proposal thank you thank you the next speaker I have this evening is Beth Thompson please come forward state your name and city of president you have three minutes hi my name is Beth Thompson I'm a resident of the City of Tempe and I rewrote everything um I know you've got emails for me and I really hope you read them and and looked at some of the questions that I've raised but tonight when people are talking about Workforce housing and how we need it we are already neighborhood of 70% rentals 70% highest in Tempe this will add more it will add congestion it will add people cutting through the neighborhood where we've got school bus stops in a park Etc that's beside the point but what I don't understand is how these 229 apartments in this particular location is going to solve all the problems what we need is Affordable Housing Home Ownership keep it that way or we need to keep it the pcc1 and and have what you did on Rural and Warner because we have not nothing local for us to go to we have to go there and it's crowded you know that but we bike um the need is for starter homes or to give this neighborhood a grocery store like I said I want to reiterate the table I sent you with the rent of apartments in the neighborhood C Cabana kirne Studio rent is at the median range of the one-bedroom apartments in the neighborhood which there are 70% tons some of these one-bedrooms have a um garages included better amenities they're all there it's all there kabana ky's two bedroom is the second highest rent in our neighborhood also M vas mentioned last meeting that I don't know what the question was but she mentioned rent at a per bedroom and it actually made me think okay so I move in and I move in with my friend and we both have significant others that's four people in a two-bedroom at the way she's pricing it that's four cars where are these cars going to park there's not enough parking spot they're going to park at Benedict or they're going to park in my neighborhood on the streets so there is a lot of concern that people aren't thinking of but there is so much Workforce housing and there is the ability to save and not buy the new iPhone and decide what's more important to you that's all but one last thing so Tempe has been recognized nationally for being one of the best American cities at using data and evidence to respond effectively to local challenges this gives me confidence that you will make the correct decision and deny this resoning proposal thank you thank you the next speaker is Joe felinski please come forward State TR name and city of residents you have three minutes thank you Mr Mayor and the council I appreciate the time my name is Joe felinski and I'm a Tempe resident uh as 38-year homeowners in a Pepperwood neighborhood were strongly opposed to this proposal as it's currently presented the three-story buildings excuse me do not fit our neighborhood and the number of the small apartments is far too many 229 units also there's still this unresolved issue of a prescriptive ease that has been created through Decades of open and notorious use to Circle K this path runs diagonally from the northwest corner of the parcel Where the Sidewalk Ends directly to Circle K this has not been addressed I brought this up to Chris Jasper and other people at the city I've gotten no response other than it was going to be brought up with the legal team but that is something that needs to be considered uh you may remember stories of open Lots in New York City where a man walked across the lot diagonally for 30 years when they went to go build they had to build them a walkway to go through there we're not looking at this path has been used by Tempe residents and also Guadalupe residents for years to go to Circle K it doesn't follow the back of the curb that cuts diagonally across the property we support development for the parcel but not this proposal the apartments are too small the buildings are too tall and dense and there's far too many units we we really suggest it reject the proposal as current Curr L designed thank you thank you the next speaker is Terry felinski good okay the next speaker then is Jerome beer wagon please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes Jerome beer wagen Tempe Arizona I reside in the Pepperwood and Mr mayor council thank you very much for the opportunity so many uh arguments pro and con have already been made this evening I don't want to Hash them or readdress them I simply want to point out a couple of facts about that particular Corner some of the remarks made by the developer which tend to signal that this would not be a good fit for the neighborhood um first and foremost is a sewer problem in the area um You probably have seen the stats it's a very bad intersection for traffic accidents no mons to stop there because the smell comes up through the sewer the city is many times trying to fix it they have not there's infrastructure problems there it will not support more people moving into to that greater number it'll only make it worse the other side of it is the frequent remarks by the developer saying that building Community inside the development they're not building Community they're isolating these folks within their development they don't want to extend out into the neighborhoods many of the people that have lived there for a long period of time and desire to live there or move into that area is because of the community whether it's Terrace walk or Pepperwood or any of the other ones in the area we get to know each other we're neighbors we're friends we attend parties we know about their families we want to Foster that type of community on that parcel Apartments don't do that and I can attest to that because I lived in apartments down the street from that when I was younger I did not socialize with the people in that apartment complex we had our own lives we went our own ways apartment dwellers by and large fantastic people I was one for many many years but we live our own lives we're not rooted into those neighborhoods as strongly as what some people might want you to believe I'm looking for a community there that'll be rooted into the surrounding communities we also need that shopping center we also need grocery stores we drive 3 four five miles to get to name brand grocery stores in the area the the bashes closed up down the street that was on Guadalupe yes that was a lot of years ago the Albertson's closed up we need shopping we need other services there I've also noticed that most of the pro arguments are made by business owners who do not live in Tempe who have people that work in Tempe I'm wondering if they pay their employees the 54 to $76,000 that it will cost to rent in the these apartments these very small tiny apartments that have been noted before so I strongly urge you take another look at the development vote no on the proposal challenge the developer to come back with something that fits better into the character of the neighborhood I really like the character plan and seeing it this this just does not fit in we're not a walkability community the real said post homes and sell the homes in these areas will tell you thank you thank you so much just a note just from a a just an accuracy standpoint I believe that I think there are three business owners that did speak tonight I believe one said he lived in Chandler but the other two did say they were residents of temp so I just wanted to make sure that I kind of corrected that for the record but I appreciate your comments thank you the next speaker is Josephine beer wagen please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes good evening mayor council members my name is Josephine beer wagen I am a longtime resident of Tempe I did move away for a while when I was a young professional and was in California and I strongly oppose this apartment development because it doesn't meet with the needs of the area we need permanent housing that's affordable for young families I happen to have three kids at home two in schools and they don't have a lot of friends in the neighborhood that also go to the schools in the neighborhoods most of them are going to other schools and other neighborhoods because it's not affordable to stay where they need to be and they don't want to end up having to move somewhere farther away but they're being driven out by the higher costs to rent and these houses aren't going to the apartments are not going to meet this houses that are affordable that they can be able to rent own and live in for a long time where they desire to be which is in this part of temp be and have amenities available like a grocery store the only drug store that is anywhere near close is to go to Walgreens on Baseline in Hardy where there are so many traffic issues on Hardy that nobody wants to travel down there it's currently under review to remediate that which is amazing but as people who live in an apartment complex that have small units and I speak from experience of living and low-income housing in California in small units you're there because that's what you can afford you're not there to build a community and we need that Community to stay that have been built in Terrace walk and Pepperwood in all the adjacent areas and having had houses about Terrace walk and out Pepperwood we love the area we have figured out how to stay in the area and afford it but there are so many families that have had to leave and move away because they can't afford it they can't afford what rent is or a mortgage and the apartments aren't going to meet that because they have kids they need three and four bedroom places to be able to raise their families and stay there and that's what we need we need a solution that doesn't add three stories that even if you can't see those three stories from the neighborhood because of setbacks you still see it driving down the road and those industrial buildings are not three stories that are along that part of kyne we need to keep with what that area is and help to build up that Community with more housing for young families because all of those critical workers healthare the school workers and education all of oh all of the people that are needing that they want to stay there thank you thank you the next speaker is Sue West please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes once again we meet around the board good evening thank you for the time um I agree with some of the uh most of the things that have been said especially with the lady in the black everything she said I put a yes to um I would like to if I may since you have green light Representatives here I have some questions and I called yesterday uh to try to get some answers I did not get a return call back so since I didn't if is it all right for me to give you these questions uh you do you want would you like to hand them to them or and they can maybe Miss BOS could address them when she comes back up okay and then said they were here to answer some questions May the one particular thing that keeps bothering me a great deal um I know the city doesn't think there's any problem with the traffic area there but I'm sorry but you're wrong um I do have something that I looked at that I thought might work but I don't know how flexible green light's going to be uh on the northwest corner there is an egress and also at the main entrance on off of guad lupy road it's over toward the wall I don't know if it's been considered to place an egress at the southeast Corner which faces kyne right now there's the garbage container right there and the g garbage containers are on the other end too but these face this way these face this way if you could move those garbage containers over next to the wall make an egress there going straight into kyne road I can see where for the garbage pickup it would be straight shot all the way down stop here get these stop here get these and go on out to kyne Road the way they have it set up there was a T-Bone situation on the driveway that is next to kyne Road from the entrance from kyne by Circle K they're coming in the gate is set back but then you have people coming as an egress and it's going like this and if you have a bus at stop of course the solution to that could be you guys could probably solve that and put a bus stop in there best pull out would be good um these are things that that safety is important and there's a lot of people that that take that route uh not only us in our area but if the apartments are there that's going to be a problem work work people unless you live there you just don't realize how much traffic there really is uh last time I was here I raised the area of a retention area and I'm sorry that time too I apologize thank you the next speaker I have this evening is Joel Hogan is Joel Hogan here if I'm pronouncing that correctly h u g n okay that means my next speaker then is William Gibson please come forward state your name and city of residents you have three minutes good evening Mr Mayor and Council thanks for letting us come and address you on this issue I'm Bill Gibson William Gibson and I've lived in tpe for 50 years and again I've spoken before but I need to reiterate I am opposed to this action there are several reasons but just moments ago we passed a Southwest character area and in that in that document on page 41 it says this preservation of neighborhood character can be achieved by ensuring that new developments are compatible with the existing character and scale of the builtup and natural area we have four neighborhoods within a quarter mile quarter to a half mile of this propos post project and you've heard from just about all of them um I'm from Britney Lane you've heard from Pepperwood you've heard from temp Royal Estates this is a single family character area and PE several people have have spoken in favor of looking at this as single family to put single family dwellings here which makes a lot of sense apartment dwellers come and go but if we're looking at affordable housing we need to look at permanent housing and single family homes is what fits this character area I'd like to respond to some of the people that have already spoken in favor of um lowcost housing and it's been alluded to several times here but our research shows that there are approximately 5,000 apartment units within about a one mile radius of this project area nine separate apartment buildings and 10% of these units are vacant at the present time if folks really want to move to 10p these are available to them as been pointed out the rental comparison between the existing units and the developers proposal indicate that a number of these existing units studio for one bedroom and two-bedroom cost less than what is being proposed by uh the Greenlight folks here so if the Tempe Workforce folks and we would love to have them uh work in Tempe and my kids went through the kyne schools and their highquality schools high quality teachers we would love to have them live in Tempe but there are approximately 500 units that are available now and we invite them to check that out um I just um I don't know how much time left I just wonder why this process was rushed so much the proposal was made to the to the city about a year and a half ago we had a meeting in June now there seems to be a rush to complete this process without totally uh working with the local folks that have issues with this that's time thank you thank you the next speaker I have is Monica tjo please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes good evening mayor Woods city council members and staff my name is Monica tjo and I am a proud Tempe resident of 20 years I also had the privilege and honor of serving on the Tempe elementary school board for nearly eight years now I'm also a former public school teacher I wanted to start off by saying thank you thank you thank you for supporting and investing in our Community Education whether it's expanding temp pre investing in our and expanding our after school programs as we referenced earlier today um those opportunities and needs are great for for our residents and so I just I just want to say thank you because I know you don't hear that enough as an elected official I can understand that it's not hard to find the data the reports and the research that share and highlight the realities that our teachers and our First Responders can't afford to live where they work this issue is very personal for me as I mentioned I've lived in Tempe for 20 years Tempe is my home and I want other people to be able to call Tempe their home too I understand the struggles as trying to make rent as a teacher and I also agreed that we need more permanent housing options for for our folks but the reality is I had to rent for 14 years um before I could finally be able to afford to buy my own home and so I AG I commend you for starting those efforts to expand opportunities for our Educators um I'm lucky to have found my home as I said and so thank you guys um for everything you have done and I hope you continue to expand every option for our teachers our First Responders whether it's um this type of housing or permanent housing thank you thank you the next speaker is Brandy olaw please come forward state your name in city of residence you have three minutes thank you folks good evening I go Michelle by the way okay sounds good you got it well I wanted to make an opinion sorry I want to come this evening to Pro provide a little bit more perspective and insight into the decision that you're making with this parcel of land in question I'm hoping that some of the things that I share with you that you can consider would provide you a little bit more of a strategic approach so I have three things in particular that I want to share and before I begin I do want to say that I think most people recognize the need for affordable housing I don't think anybody questions that I think what we're questioning though is what kind of affordable housing should it be three stor should it be two stories should it be single family homes so one thing I want to share with you this evening is I'm in the business of measuring risk and more specifically trying to mitigate it and that is probably my number one concern here we've seen exactly where the traffic is going to come in and out and my main concern is the children I haven't heard anyone mention this I've only heard the developer talk about it's across the street from the school district office but no one has mentioned the kids who every day when I go through that intersection for work are walking through that they're teenagers they're young and I don't know about you but if you haven't seen a 16-year-old they don't always use a crosswalk so that is where I feel like we have the greatest elevated a risk by having that proximity with that many people there you've heard some comments about it's not going to increase traffic I beg to defer according to the developer they're going to be adding 369 parking spaces they anticipate that's going to increase daily trips by 15500 I don't know about you but increasing daily trips by, 1500 is an increase in traffic and my kid walks across the street there and gets hit I want to know that temp's ready for the lawsuit because you have increased that heighted risk for us I think the second thing you heard tonight is also about concerns and privacy I appreciate that green light is trying to socialize the way they're going to try to address that you can put all the beautiful trees you want for landscaping I also want to keep it real and be honest realistically those trees are not going to mature to the growth you need them overnight so that means those people have to live with the lack of privacy for years and let's not forget we're in Arizona folks so there's no guarantee that they will reach maturity with climate change as well as a lack of resources with concerns around water I think the last thing I want to share with you is what can we do to even make it a more Equitable experience for those who are needing affordable housing you just heard testimony from multiple people who want to live here they want to buy they want to rent so why does it have to be strictly then apartment complex why can't that one piece of land be single family hosing why haven't you considered then the other parts of land that's just down the street on Guadalupe at Hardy that is already marked for residential why can't that be the twostory complex or three story complex they already have existing Apartments there to begin with so that's all I would like you to consider thank you appreciate it that's not my the next speaker is Darren Gonzalez please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes hello Darren Gonzalez uh resident of Tempe um good evening Mr Mayor and members of the city council I'm speaking in favor tonight of hc2 on the Cabana K kirne development I'm fortunate to live and work in Tempe as an educator I see this development as one of many opportunities that this Council needs to pursue to help maintain as much of Tempe as a city for families as we can you may have seen the recent news of Tempe Union School District cutting positions due to declining enrollment and Tempe Elementary is also seeing the same thing with data from their demographer report our city cannot continue to become more difficult for families to get their foot in the door and make this city their home Cabana kirne provides an opportunity for teachers and First Responders and those we need to continue to build maintain our grow our community today these are the exact people we want to call our neighbors I understand the concerns about a new building Tempe community and I would like to use my experience with the recently completed Alex and Tempe multif family complex off brace P Price and Baseline which is a welcome part of my cool Park neighborhood since it's been built I haven't really noticed any discernable increases in traffic we have not had increase of transients in the neighborhood we've actually had fewer now that the dead strip mall is gone and we've been been replaced by this complex we've also had an increase in new businesses in a previously dying strip mall we have canes now we have a new sushi restaurant we have a new gas station all of these are due to having more people in the area to help attract and sustain our businesses here in Tempe this is an opportunity to provide opportunities for new families to make Tempe their home it'll help continue the stimulation of new businesses and support our established ones a four decades old vacant lot does not achieve any of that I urge you to vote in favor of that tonight thank you thank you the next speaker this evening is Randy sakala please come forward state your name and city of residents you have three minutes good evening I'm Randy sakala resident of temp Royal Estates in Tempe mayor Woods council members that now I kind of recognize some of you it's not quite as scary um so I had a great auditory ready for my closing argument today and rather I'm gonna I'm G to switch and and kind of speak more from the heart and from experience and and so uh bear with me just a little bit but I have a daughter who's a school teacher here in Phoenix um I have a nephew who's uh active police force I have a brother-in-law who is the former tppd I have two nieces um who are active law enforcement in the Phoenix Valley and so I have an insight into this missing middle and and and the uh the workforce and I can tell you right now that none of them would rent in this complex now it's not because it's an awful complex really it's two reasons um number one it's really small rooms and number two it's kind of like a fishbowl the way it's built all the rooms look at each other and so you're going to have no privacy at all so this development screams of student housing the architecture the colors uh the design and so if you're targeting 21 22 23 year olds they're going to love this this is going to be so cool they just got out of college and they're used to a communal type lifestyle and this will be no problem for them but if that's what it is it should be closer to downtown so they can do the things they like to do and they'll be happier and and then we'll be happier but if you're looking for a little more mature uh maybe the mid 20s kicking up to 30 God forbid um these are people that want a safe home uh some privacy maybe a balcony to go out and read a book and this ain't that that um if you approve this development in my opinion I think what you're doing is setting in oce a a social experiment that's going to go for 60 years planting a motel Motel style uh student dorm building basically smack dab in the middle of an established uh retired workingclass people neighborhood full of kids that that in this complex that are are still excited that they can drink beer legally that's just not going to work it's a social experiment that we'll have to live with if you approve this and and uh I just don't think that's going to work out that well I don't I don't know how you could be proud to be part of the council that puts that in motion um once that once the reality of that comes together and for all of those here tonight that are talking about affordability and all that stuff I love you but you haven't done your homework so I invite you to come see me after the fact um I can fill you in but the reality is 40% of the unit uh in this cab kyne our studios are 468 Square F feet that's barely bigger than my two-car garage you're going to pay 1,400 bucks for that come see me thank you thank you next speaker I have this evening is Timothy Brown please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes don't you guys take a [Laughter] break that's what that's what this is for us so no uh um my name's Tim Brown I've lived here uh since 1974 I'm about a mile and a half from this complex uh I apologize in advance for the rambling I was wondering why I was here to address the council it's because I was here 40 years ago when they wanted to put apartments up by uh my house and at the time I didn't want it uh but it was approved anyway and then they didn't build them I don't know what that's good for but I think my views on a few things have changed since then uh personally I support the buildout of more affordable housing anywhere because I believe in all of the benefits of a life closer to home in particular many folks working in temp B are unable to live here both because of availability and cost and the city simply needs more affordable places to live I think the traffic impact on the neighborhoods is overblown I think commercial buildings add far more traffic than apartment buildings and as to property values I don't know after 50 years here they've only gone up I expect they will continue to do so one mile south on kyne sit numerous unoccupied commercial buildings it's the same on Elliott east of kirne these have been largely unoccupied for years two brand new unoccupied buildings were built a couple years ago on Warner just east of priest it's too bad that so many buildings are eating up so much space but the lake area and downtown Tempe are full of expensive commercial apartment buildings how about the old golf course land how much of that land will be designated for low to moderate housing it's a fact of life that we are living with zoning decisions made years ago the city could not say no to commercial developers using all this land we can't say no to ASU in their quest for all of the space in Tempe if you look at the lake area there's your traffic mess it remains to be seen if any of the lake property will be allocated to low income housing my point is this we all have to change and adapt because of need land deficiency and Zoning neighborhoods will be asked to accommodate requests to evolve and change to help provide places for living I hope the city does a good job hoping developers developers accountable to listening to working with and accommodating the folks who are already in these neighborhoods and asked to change I hope the builders are sensitive to this fact and work well with the neighborhood sorry that's time out of time I hope you don't use that red and mustard color because it's off thank Youk you the next speaker is Jennifer ress please come forward state your name in city of residence you have three minutes good evening council members and um vice mayor gin mayor Woods thank you so much for letting me speak tonight um I've had many meetings with several of you and I was brought into this rapidly and I've taken a nose dive into information about this project I sincerely hope you understand that we're not rejecting a project in that space what we're trying to achieve is everybody goals and meet in the middle somewhere and that's not happening so we had meetings with the developers and we spoke with them extensively about some of the things that we were trying to achieve and we are still not necessarily there yet so my claim and my statement here today is to postpone this zoning until we really do have a meeting of the minds and if that means that we don't get what we want okay but we haven't even been able to really dive into that conversation with these developers and that's really important here and what I want want to say today we don't want to see gentrification of a of a neighborhood and what that means is the pushing out and the rents Rising seeing things like California has experienced um 12,000 Californians are moving here a month we know the statistic and they love 10p we love temp but we still have to honor the people who live here now okay and I'm one of them I'm resident of the Pepperwood area I have a lot of um things to kind of point out but the big thing is transparency you know you guys started working the city started working with the developer over a year and a half uh March of 2023 we didn't get notification until June of 24 and then this is the amount of time that we've had to actually create um questions and notifications and talk about design and you know it's like what are you serious like we can't even like and we have jobs just for the record so I mean there's a lot of things design a aesthetic challenges Rush process I mean not to mention you only notif IED 115 people there's 25,000 people in this zone 6 area okay let's break it down let's take half of that no let's cut that let's take a quarter of it that's 6,000 people let's take half of that that's 3,000 people that's take half of that that's 1,500 people and you guys know the five 115 so I'm just saying let's be real here of that 115 25% rejected it I'm one of them I'm not like in opposition of progressing in um our community but we just want to be heard we want to be we want our community to reflect what what people live in it and the people that are about to come in we're we're welcoming that but we need more time more time what is the rush it's been vacant for 40 years what is the rush and I I seriously ask you that before you vote tonight all of you what is the rush we are just asking for time we haven't even rejected it in full we just want more time to work with the developers to get an idea so they understand what our community is looking for I'm sorry that's thank you okay sorry we can't we can't have any clapping I'm sorry next up we have Amber wheeler please come state your name and city of residence you have three minutes hello my name is Amber wheeler I live in timy and boy that's that's a hard one to follow up I won't take much of your time I really do appreciate the opportunity to get to speak um I don't know how good it's going to be but I just want to touch on a couple points um the Southwest character plan already states that we are in in an area the Southwest Hy it's 70% rental as it is um I too would like to have commercial but even if we had Apartments I just don't feel like these particular apartments are right for the area um the way the breezeways are on the internal um where people go to their doors it's just that's not that's not a place for a teacher people are hanging out on the patio on the breeze way and teachers trying to just go home I just don't think it's the right fit that's that's my problem I'm not saying oh we can't have housing and the prices per square feet in my opinion are just too high for such a small tiny place um and the the new times they have an article that quotes the developer that supposedly um these particular types of Apartments have a 50 to 60% like turn and the Southwest character plan suggests we should like keep the Aging the Aging set in place or something like that but that these small little apartments just and you know and that quote just don't fit with that um someone at the D the DRC meet meeting one time they were like I know change is hard but it's it's not about change it's just these particular Apartments just aren't aren't in my opinion the the right fit and the last the last thing I just want to say is I'm a mother and I'm a business owner and I've lived in tempy almost my whole life I've owned my home for 30 years and I just it's just hard to see these places go in here the last the last this piece of land is one of the last few pieces of land and it's like you're going to put this in here I feel like I feel like they you know these people who are going to live there could do better and it's and we it could be better for us having a different kind of community so that's it thank you the next speaker is Melissa Balon please come forward state your name and city of residence we have three minutes hello again my name is Melissa I live in Tempe I live a couple streets south of the proposed development site um I don't have a lot to say tonight I've already been up here at many other meetings and shared many feelings um so I won't rehash the things we've already kind of been through um but I do want to just uh kind of respond to the people who are excited about this affordable housing opportunity um I'm not sure how much research they've been able to do but myself and my neighbors have done quite a bit of research and we've looked at like I believe it's like somewhere from 10 to 12 complexes and of those complexes Cabana kirene consistently comes in at the exact same rents or sometimes higher in almost almost every case more per square foot so even if the rent's the same probably the competitor has more space in it so for if you can't afford to live in Tempe right now this complex is not going to make it affordable for you to be able to live in Tempe because the same thing the same prices are available right now those uh 400 units that are currently available they're priced the same as these so that's not going to solve the problem I'm a little worried that we're banding right now this housing uh issue because uh what happens when these people move in and they get married they get uh they advance in their careers and they want to buy a home are we just creating a waste Station for people who are then going to move to Gilbert or Scottsdale or auki uh because we've filled all our vacant Lots with Apartments rather than long-term housing of course there's the issue of just fit uh I still believe this is not a fit um still not you know in agreement with this development um but I just wanted to um if if you do feel the need to to approve this which I do not want you to do I would just urge you to at the very least put pressure on the developers to revise the exterior design to feel more of a match uh we do not read ketchup and mustard blocks on the corner of the building or on the corner of the block um there's nothing that looks anything like that anywhere nearby if they were even desert shades that would at least be somewhat helpful so that's all I have to say tonight I'm not GNA go over tonight so thank you thank you the last card I have this evening is for Nolan Williams please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes hello my name is Nolan Williams I am a resident of Tempe I am a renter and I here in support of this project a lot of people talk about aging in place and rootedness in their community and I'd like to share my own story where personally I when I was in college I lived on a ra Road near daily park but not in daily park near daily park in a building that had a horrible horrible change of color when they changed it from white to Brown and they made it less cool in you know California I love the neighborhood that I was near I love the grocery store I love the short walk to ASU I loved being in downtown Tempe Downtown is a great place and that's that was a fit for me that was a match I didn't know coming in that it would be a match but it was I had to leave at the end of college but I got really lucky and a place opened up basically across the street in daily park I'm saying this because people don't root themselves in their apartment right people don't root themselves in their Studio or their condo some people root themselves in their home sure if they have a single family house but what people are really doing is rooting themselves in the community and in the area in the amenities that are outside of the building that they live in I think it's important that we consider this if we're talking about apartment transients or was stations or are these people going to be here for a long time what happens with their when they have a family we need to consider that the problem is not just am I being priced out of Tempe but when I'm looking is there nothing for me on the shelf right now if I have a one month time limit to find a place am I going to find something in my student school zone in time or do I'm going to have to go somewhere else am I going to have the opportunity to come back after I have to leave will things be available for me in my timeline when I want to come back in the month Gap that I have or in the six weeks that I have to find a place it's important that we have these options available to us so that we can make sure that when people leave they can come back and they can keep the rootedness in their community and I'd like to finalize by saying what we have currently is a review process that you find people control and you find people have the veto and the yes over but that is not a system that is guaranteed and it is not a system that necessarily will last forever there are a lot of societies that have more affordable housing where it is not a discretionary review process it is based on is this safe does it meet the standards we've already laid out in our documents that are publicly available and if we want to keep it a discretionary review process I would ask you you guys to take on the responsibility of making sure that enough housing gets through so that the people who are growing up and need to find places to live will always have that available to them not just stamp yes on a bunch of housing projects and decide we're done we don't need to do anymore thank you very much thank you that is all the cards that I have this evening uh but before I close this portion uh is there anyone else in the audience wishing to address the council uh okay here in the back and then here so let's go here in the back and then right here please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes hello my name is k Carlin and I'm a resident of temp and thank you so much for allowing me this opportunity to speak tonight I grew up in the Tempe Royal Estates neighborhood I rode my bike to that Circle KY all the time played in the park and learned how to drive on Hardy this is my home where my parents still live and own their house and when my parents sent me the flyer sent by the opposers of this project I was absolutely shocked that people from the neighborhood that I grew up in could make such baseless claims about apartments being associated with crime and the project affecting the color and character of the neighborhood I'm in Firm support of this project and of teachers young professionals and service workers being able to afford housing in the neighborhood that I grew up in and loved earlier when Gabe mentioned having an employee who works four jobs that's me surprise I did make it here um I work as a barista at three stores and as a substitute teacher while I studied to get my teacher certificate I was late tonight because I drove from class but I'm here because I'm deeply invested in the fight to make our community safer and more connected but as was pointed out earlier tonight we can't do that if young people can't afford to stay in temp be when you think when you talk about honoring us and honoring the people who live in Tempe think about us the people who work in your McDonald's your coffee shops and your schools deserve to live in the community too this is my home and my community and we need to build it together please approve this project and help make Tempe a place where people can actually stay Thank you thank you uh sir yes please come forward state your name and city of residents you also have three minutes thank you mayor for noticing me thank you Council I just want to clarify because it's very contingent Point affordable housing versus what was sent out in the original letter attainable housing I would love it was explained to us at our first neighborhood meeting this was not affordable housing and as it was been mentioned by comparison in the market area stuff like that you can find cheaper larger Apartments than what is going to be built here now I have no problem we need affordable housing stuff like that and if you build it yes there will be more apartments and in the in supply and demand there will you know balance out of any eventually but I don't want people to be surprised when they show up at Cabana kirne and find out that it's more expensive than the apartments in the area they're not affordable housing it's attainable housing all right thank you very much thank you appreciate it all right is there anyone else oh yes ma'am please come forward state your name and city of residents you have three minutes hi I'm Danielle chernik I also live in Tempe um I live down the street from K who just spoke for this I'm against it um I agree with the gentleman who mentioned that it looked more like student housing this is not an area of student housing my bigger concern is the proximity to the town of Guadalupe and then you've got the high School across the street that is for atrisk kids um it's going to change we've already had this character uh description of the area I'm going to tell you this is going to change the character description of the area having transient people around and then um the lack of affordability of it actually and that it is just obtainable uh I have a grow own son right now that lives in an area it's very expensive and he cannot buy anything for less than a half a million dollars for less than a th000 square feet and that's what these apartments are to me is they're what are we doing we're just pushing the inflation I don't know I'm I'm rambling but I'm really hoping also another thing I want to mention I'm rambling but there's a railroad track right there we get plenty of railroad stops and lots of traffic because of that um at certain times of the day so I've had the pleasure of meeting several of you council members in the past just uh here and there you wouldn't remember me but nonetheless I appreciate your work and thank you for listening thank you so much is there yes sir please come forward state your name in city of residents we have three minutes good afternoon mayor or good evening mayor council leader ship in the City of Tempe and residents of the City of Tempe mayor council my comment stand is not actually directed at you all it's actually directed at everyone who came up here tonight to speak my name is jein Hajj I am a resident of Tempe a lifelong resident of Tempe I represented Tempe in the Arizona State Legislature and I was born at Tempe St Luke's hospital so I'm the first person to say I fully understand this community and I live in this community I love this community dearly with my entire heart but when you look at me today I am a young man that was raised in an apartment building in this community my mother bought her first home when she was when I turned 18 when I went off to college to one of the best universities in the United States of America and I can tell you this the pathway for ownership the pathway for developing our communities and the pathway for ensuring that we have integrity and we have a life that we can build for everyone in this community starts by creating housing options that make sense for the individuals that when they can move into them so when we expand how options and we make sure that we invite people from all walks of life even the city of Guadalupe we invite people from all walks life they get that high quality life that Tempe affords to each and every resident our police chief is sitting in this audience he's going to make sure that every resident is safe our fire chief is sitting in this audience they are going to make sure that every resident is protected and the one thing that we have to do is no matter where you come from who you are what you're trying to do what status you are what type of person who you believe in who you love whatever it may be you should deserve to live in the city of Tempe and options like this Council when you cast your vote remember and look at me someone who has represented this community who owns two businesses in this community who employs individuals in this community and who loves this community dearly I grew up in an apartment building I am proud of of it I own a home in this community now because of it I am proud of it and remember that these are the opportunities that you are giving to someone when you expand options like this thank you for your leadership thank you so much yes sir please please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes hi my name is Chris Herman I live in Phoenix but in the tempy union boundaries and you'll find that I incorrectly put the wrong agenda item on my card for tonight um thank you mayor woods and council members I am the associate Superintendent at kyne school district and also the Chief Financial Officer and I just would like to share some of the challenges that our school district has faced when it relates to housing I'm sure you're aware that the enrollment issues um for school districts in the East Valley have only gotten a little bit worse especially those that are landlocked as the number of school-aged children has dropped significantly over the last few years one major factor for that situation is home prices becoming a barrier for many families who are not able to afford near or within our district boundaries it's also difficult to find and higher employees who work in our district as it's not affordable for many of our staff especially for entry level employees and unfortunately as you heard earlier kyne has also lost some staff in recent years due to higher gas costs from having just just to commute longer distances I do want to give you some examples of some things that we're facing currently the average starting salary uh for a classroom teacher is just under $50,000 in our district the average starting salary for an instructional assistant who is a person that assist a classroom teacher is just over $24,000 a year and the average starting salary for a bus driver in our district is again just over $24,000 we would obviously like to increase those salaries but I think you're aware that Ariza is near the bottom of the country when it comes to State funding for education so we do face some significant challenges in making that happen as far as open positions go uh we currently have 12 vacant classroom teachers we have 36 vacant instructional assistant positions and 14 vacant bus driver positions these are very important positions in our school district and unfortunately have been at these higher levels for several years now and having such a high number of unfilled positions is definitely not a good thing for the educational opportunities for our students we would welcome any opportunities to find solutions to these problems because we would like to create more opportunities for families and staff members to eliminate any Financial barriers in order to live or work in our community and we know that hiring employees who live in our community only makes our schools stronger so we appreciate any possible solutions that would help our schools in these scenarios thank you thank you is there anyone else in the audience wishing to yes sir please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes my name is Steve chernik I also live in Tempe since 1974 I do not necessarily object to multifam dwellings I do object to the Aesthetics of this project this looks like it should belong on a Pache Boulevard or un and not in a in the character area that is represented here thank you thank you is there anyone else in the audience wishing to address the council yes ma'am please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes good evening I've lived in temp for 43 years years I do live in the Tempe Royal Estate neighborhood um I understand about the housing and whatnot I've lived in Tempe Tempe is landlocked we can only get taller but not on that corner tonight just coming here the train was coming passing traffic was backed up to past the McDonald's pass the Circle K cuz we were in it the cars are going to be an issue I understand the people that are for it because they're wanting more housing and no offense to any of the teachers I still remember all of mine that lived in Tempe and drove to Maricopa because that's where I grew up teachers have never gotten paid fairly so this apartment complex is not the answer it's not going to make their salaries larger the traffic is going to be an issue there are football games games and soccer games that are played every weekend the traffic coming out of there compared with the what is it 229 apartments that have traffic like the one lady that spoke said four cars per apartment the traffic is going to be awful you guys better hire some more 10p cops for that corner because traffic is going to be ugly I understand the people that are upset for their privacy and I'm not going to ramble anymore but I'll leave on a happy note I wouldn't want anybody seeing me in my backyard because I wear a media dress for pajamas so you guys got to really think about the Privacy issue here yes you can build a big old wall or whatever it's still going to be an issue but really look at the traffic it's going to be bad it's bad right now please look at that there a lot of kids that play football and soccer on those fields that's all I got to say thank you very much for your jobs I love my Tempe Town I promote it all the time but you guys got to think about it and look at it more clearly don't rush don't rush it's been vacant for 40 years what's going to be another couple years thank you thank you appreciate it is there anyone else in the audience wishing to address the Council on this item if so please get my attention yes sir please come forward state your name and city of residence you have three minutes as I trip right as I get up here hello uh my name is Sam the and I am a resident of temp I live in daily park I am a renter I am not a transient I'm a teacher um I have lived in Arizona my whole life and I know that there are a lot of people moving here and I think that that is a really good thing because I love Arizona and I love Tempe I support this project because I think that we don't have enough housing and I am going to get uh priced out of Tempe eventually I don't make enough money we've talked about how teachers don't make enough money here eventually if there's not enough housing I will get priced out and the only way I know a lot of people have said that this apartment complex is too high of rent the only way to make Apartments more affordable is to build more of them because then there's competition to lower that price but I just wanted to say I'm in favor of more housing and this so have a good night thank you appreciate it is there anyone else in the audience wishing to address the Council on this item if so please get my attention all right seeing thatone I will close the public testimony portion of the public hearing um Miss BOS do you have anything else that you'd like to add or address uh Mr Mayor members of council I don't have a lot more to add I know we I'm happy to answer any questions um just in terms of the Ingress and egress I just want to say that the the access points we're using are the existing access points so that's kind of how those access points came we didn't want to put in new access points so that's just the traffic already flows that way I don't know Jason can you throw the um just to make just to answered this question so the access points already exist on Guadalupe and kirne those are the current access ACC points that kind of go to Circle K and so that's just how those two access points came in we didn't want to add more access points or an access point closer to the neighbors on the south we did add one additional exiton access point um qu on guad Lop B to the West so that's a minimal access point but other than that I'm I'm happy to answer any questions as I mentioned in the beginning the price of these units Workforce are the same as the 30-year-old Apartments that's true that that are around it right that is the goal try to provide new apartments at the same price is 30-year-old apartments and you know there are no studios in the area we're providing Studios for those who want them and then they have one bedrooms and two bedrooms so that's kind of the answer to that question um you know as the last speaker said you know we provide more units that'll help with the supply and certainly help with the supply down here we're trying to bring a brand new product with brand new amenities at the same price that are the cost of a 30-year old apartment building that that's kind of where we are so I'm happy to answer any questions okay um council member Adams yes a couple questions uh so obviously land is very expensive um in Tempe and I'm just wondering um if we if if this was single um family homes what what would those costs because that's been brought up a lot like people want single family homes and you give me a guess of well the prices of those homes currently in the area are are about you know just around $500,000 so if you're building a new product it would be something probably higher than that but again it's it's Zone commercial and so it's typically hard is you know to put single family at the intersection of at an immediate intersection next to a Circle K right okay and then I have another question you talked about traffic the last time and the differences between traffic between a grocery store and um maybe commercial commercial I'm not sure yeah you remember what you know what I'm talking about I do it's right here okay I got my presentation back on here um okay so you want to go over those again I mean just briefly if you know 150,000 square feet commercial center with a grocery store would generate approximately 14,000 daily trips uh versus you know we're talking about as, 1500 trips in a gated community a grocery store you can you see from the Circle K is open to every body certainly may have more people going in and out I have a Walgreens on my corner I'm across the street from a high school I you know those kids are going to that Walgreens all the time in and out you know I understand how that goes there's a lot of traffic um but you know we think much it's a gated community it's less than approved from the general plan that all the voters voted on um in terms of just if you didn't have a grocery store 10,000 daily trips so we're talking about a minimal number of trips so this is actually the least down zoning this is down zoning the property okay all right thank you because I think that's been people thought that traffic was going to go away up and in fact it's it would go down it's going to go down from what's currently approved I mean will go up from a vacant lot that doesn't have anything on it for sure I understand yeah that's a true statement okay um thank you those all the questions I have thank you just a quick question then I'll go to council branberg and actually my question is for staff uh regarding the comments that we heard about sing single family housing my understanding is that single family housing on that corner wouldn't even be really acceptable given the fact that you're at the corner of a Maj two major arterial streets coming together right behind a Circle K right behind a McDonald's so my understanding of some of our previous zoning and a lot of the plans that we have is that a single family home use at that corner really would be inappropriate and frankly would be less safe but I want to make sure that I'm I'm not just making that up I'd like to see if anyone from staff can actually answer that question I did WOW mayor council members Ryan L deputy director in planning um so typically when single family is designed usually uh they reserve the U major arterial intersections for higher intense use like multif family or commercial that does tend to bring more traffic um trips through those intersections so typically you want to bring single family subdivisions away from those arterial intersections and provide some buffering of transitional uses in those areas so um um so yeah it would probably be typically uncommon to have single family that close in proximity to a two major intersections okay sounds good thank you I'm sorry ma'am we can't ma'am sorry council member ramberg uh Mr Mayor Ryan you may want to come back up I've got a question for staff as well uh so there's been some comments um both in the emails and made tonight that you know there would be a possibility that if we were to vote on a three level a three-story building uh tonight that the developer would be able to go be beyond that like could you explain the process the city process uh for for us and for them just to kind of go through what would be required if that were going to happen correct mayor uh council member Amber uh this request specifically is asking for some additional height above beyond the the maximum allowed for the R5 so that height is approved and identified as per the approved um or proposed elevations for this plan um any proposed height any changes of height after the entitlement would require the app to go back through a neighborhood meeting process um P Amendment and and and through public hearings to then again ask for any additional hype beyond what is presented for tonight's hearing uh council member chin thank you mayor Ryan I do not have questions for you thank you and just just so we're on the same page and I don't know if Ryan are the same I mean I think what Ryan meant to say is the R5 zoning allows 50 ft Max I'm actually asking for Less height than R5 Al right Ryan yeah just to clarify that I'm not asking from our height then the R5 allows my pad is about the Guadalupe Frontage set back sorry that's okay just to clarify that I one thing I want to clarify and that was brought up by a speaker tonight one of the residents and I thought you mentioned it but I need to clarify you're raising the back wall separating the complex from the single family homes back there from 6 feet to 8 ft is that correct yes we're going there's a condition of approval on the plans that as per code we need to increase the height of that wall to 8 feet we're working through you know the current walls won't support it so we either need to put a new wall which we don't really want to do or some other system that will certainly raise that it may be more land um screening to help raise the wall but yes it will be 8 ft okay um my other question and this I will admit um I've lived in Tempe for 50 years I grew up approximately a mile from where this site is and because I um fall into my old habits I still shop at the nearby grocery stores the fries the Trader Joe's and the Costco in the area so I drive this area a lot um I'm trying to verify and I don't need you to give me an address just a reality check for me when I had South on kirene from Baseline what I'm hearing what I heard tonight was that this complex doesn't fit it doesn't fit with a character area there are other multifam complexes on kirene aren't there I know seen them yes yeah and they are also two and three stories right yes that's two of them um Garden Grove three stories strata three stories San Marino two stories roughly yeah roughly since you have the numbers yes yeah I I'm just that's what I thought okay um no that's it for now thank you y thank you council member keing thank you mayor uh council member chin forgot Elliott's Crossing which I lived at for a number of years in the early early ODS um my my questions for uh Miss vas uh Mela after our meeting with the res the neighbors and again in this meeting the issue of color has come up quite a bit has there been any further discussions with the neighbors in that area is there any movement on on the color scheme that has has been presented to the council uh mayor council council member keing I mean we talked to the neighbors a little bit about beige but no one uh has suggested a new color scheme I mean I would suggest you know we can work I mean the color matches the other buildings in the area it's not super orange it doesn't look as orange here it's generally tan and mustard if there's a different color we can work with the staff to try to make it more beige if that's you know what the neighbors want but I I don't see any kind of real I mean color subjective and we were trying to make it blend in with the landscaping and the colors around it um so other than telling me that people don't like certain colors we have not moved on it we've spent a lot of time and just to give you a little background this is a color scheme that we have worked on two other municipalities in the in marope County who we've spent a lot of time with and they pick this color scheme so we thought this would work here um it's fine people don't love it but it's it's pretty it is neutral to council member Chin's point it's similar has that similar tan of the other buildings up and down kirne but we're happy to you know talk about it if that's I mean if you'd prefer I don't think a brighter color would make it look better I think it will stand out more no I I don't disagree with that I my I asked the question just to see if any additional conversations have have been had and we just ask that that those conversations are had you know whether the color changes or not if there is a proposal that the neighbors in that area would like to see different as far as color goes you know just just that it be considered yeah I mean of course thank you all right thank you council member Adams yes I have a a question I know that we always try to get out into the neighborhoods and discuss the the planning and things of what's coming next to their neighborhood um how how many meetings did you have um with we had one neighborhood meeting yeah we had one neighborhood meeting as as they said we had done some initial Outreach and I've had some individual meetings over the plast we've been working on this as as was mentioned for about two years um over time and you know it's the reason this lot has been vacant for a long time is the property owner is complicated um so we we kind of bring this project I've talked to a lot of members in this Community um I think I mentioned you know to some of the youth Council I've mentioned it to other community members who live in South Tempe two years ago that were're looking at this project um it's something we've been trying to talk about I we did only have one neighborhood meeting but I've had many conversations um but yeah well I think it's important that you've been working on this for two years so it's not just something that just popped up but I also know that um uh well how how how were you treated at that neighborhood meeting that you had well I mean I think I was treated fine but I I I don't I think that people you know we we've we've had the same kind of conversations we've had today you know there's it you know they the height has certainly come up the use has come up the color has come up you know the single family homes and the use of that and grocery stores have come up okay thank you sounds good thank you Council brj thank you um uh one I have a comment and then I have a question and it's probably for the City of Tempe uh my comment is I I heard someone say that that the School District Tempe Union is um they have students um there at Compadre right now there is no students at Compadre we have just 20 students in the back of the of the facility that is not really ad joined to Compadres at the back of it so I want everybody understand that that is now more Office Buildings and people so there's not kids running in an Outland there in the middle of the day I know there's schools in the neighborhood but where Compadre is at there is no kids running in out of that area at that time so as a governing board member I wanted to clear that up um second my question is I know that everybody's talking about the trains and the traffic I want uh is anybody from Transportation here I see shell Syler Shell's here to talk about traffic um knowing that I have been on the school board for eight years and even if we don't have any um development that train is going to continue to go through and it holds me up at every governing board meeting um if you get it at the right time what I want to know from you is is that that with with this development and the trains is that going to really increase traffic or is it just is going to increase by the fact that we have something there um um just to give little context because I'm hearing that the work traffic traffic traffic so I want I want you to come to give us some clarity on what is going on with the traffic because knowing that I I may not live on that side of town but I have to come to that side of town all the time I'm caught all the time by the train and I don't think that's going to change no matter what the development is there and I've waited for 45 minutes at it so I just want to want your intake on it thank you thank you council member Hajj mayor uh shelle Syler Deputy transport transportation and sustainability director first I wanted to address the trains um when the trains are going through there we do know that it does increase congestion um because everybody has stopped in traffic we can have conversations with Union Pacific and the Arizona Corporation Commission unfortunately those conversations don't always prove fruitful um as people probably understand the trains have been here longer than than much of the development that is occurring so we can have those conversations we just don't have much influence over when and how they operate um as far as the traffic goes we have looked at the um number of trips that the development is going to generate as Mula said it's about 1500 a day um what we focus on really is the AM and PM peak hour because those are the times when there's the most congestion we don't anticipate that this development really is going to change significantly the conditions that we see today um we don't um we've looked at the crashes in the area it does not um it doesn't have a number of crashes that are more than what we're seeing in other areas it's not a high accident location um it's not one of our vision uh zero corridors So based off of our analysis we don't have major concerns about the development itself and what it's going to do to the area from a traffic perspective if that answers your question yes thank you so much sounds good thank you vice mayor Garland I was G to say as a um as a congestion issue or concern or question that council member Hajj had it's also as mentioned by somebody that was talking about mitigating risks the risks the higher risk is the commercial retail and then the grocery store the lowest risk for that area would be to change it to um this development so that we have 1500 cars so that does lower the risk that's already been set up for that um but um you know I appreciate one of the things that I was reading in some of the paperwork that um we have in some of the research is that um that kyne Guadalupe area um um can hold 40,000 cars that's what you projected the use could be for a safe functioning intersection that currently it has 26,000 is what we're using that intersection out I think is the what I have believe that yes those were the numbers that mja had presented generally a two or four-lane facility is going to be able to at maximum capacity handle 40,000 Vehicles a day um one thing I will say is is that we're always looking at our intersections and retiming them to make sure that they're operating at their Peak Performance as well um this is something we do regularly from a corridor perspective as well as just at an intersection perspective but so just to be clear with this the numbers that I got was from our staff not from Mula so I just want to be clear that Mula is not handing um information to our Council that this is stuff that we received from staff so I just want to make sure that that that that we said that um um that's the only question I had for traffic so thank you great um I would like to say that um when we were going through this I um I met with um Bill and Melissa and Randy um we did a zoom meeting and were able to talk through and I was able to listen to what they had I just have to say thank you so much for everybody who's come to speak to us on both sides of the concerns and the issue with this um um this project it's really important that we hear from you um we want to hear from you and it's important for us to be able to make our decisions to be able to listen to everybody and we read those emails that you send in um and we listen to the phone calls and our staff helps us do some research to try to get some answers um for people when they have them we are doing our due diligence to make the best decision decision decision that we think is best for um the City of Tempe and for our area so I just want to say thank you so much for everybody who's taken the time to be able to come up and see us who would sent us um those emails um one of the things that I thought was um pretty interesting was um that we had the character area um um presented to us just before this so i' read through the character areas in there and I just have to say that if you go through the character area and I'm looking on page 40 what am I on um I'm on page 50 of the character book it it talks about the colors being compatible and for the colors to look um in that area and things that you want to be put in to look similar to the things that are going around you so I I sat at the corner at the Circle Cave for about 50 minutes because then I hopped over to Mill and Southern to kind of see what that area looked like in comparison I drove through that neighborhood I'm looking at this character area book and the colors that you have are very except for the Ikea which is way an outlier that's that blue and and yellow the care that the colors it seems that you have are very similar to the neighborhoods that I drove through and to the buildings that are there so um I just want to say I appreciate it if there are if you are still willing to listen to Residents about if there's something another color but if you look at the character of that area it is very similar the other thing is this project we know is not going to solve the housing problem that we had it it's just another part of us being able to get housing into our community and they again looking back at this character area when I was reading the character area it's the first thing it says on um like you guys can all read it to page 51 it says residents of the area has stated that their preference is to see a more affordable housing as a priority that's the same thing we have we have all of us have wanted more housing and if you bring one type of housing in even if it's market rate housing and the most expensive it starts adjusting the prices and the range of everything else that's in there so we can start getting more housing for more people um It also says in here it says the city should follow the strategies and recommendations provided in the affordable housing strategy part um booklet and um that we have that is what we're doing that is Again part of this is bringing more housing looking at affordable or you say attainable market rate housing those are the things that we need um It also says that we should be following the guidelines of Hometown for all program that the mayor initiated when he first got on Council um as mayor that program is the same thing we need more housing um in our communities the number c the thing is on here is we need to be following and looking at the Tempe Coalition for affordable housing again directing us that we need to be doing um our best to bring in housing in our community um and for me that has got to be thoughtful housing and I think looking at this project walking the project sitting on that um that corner driving through the neighborhood I think this is a good fit for that area and I think it is a thoughtful project um and I I just want to say I I appreciate what what this the residents have done when they've come in to speak to us but you know the fabric of who we are as a community is to be welcoming to everybody and to do our best everybody housing is a is a human right we need to be looking at more housing and we need to do it in a thoughtful area one more umle one more point that I have one question my understanding is the reason why there are not grocery stor in some area and some grocery stores are closing is because there are not enough people in those areas to sustain the grocery stores and the retail stores if we want to get more retail and we want to get a small grocery stores and areas we need to have people there that are going to go to those areas that is the problem that we're having that's why some grocery stores are cleaning closing they don't have enough people there to be able to go in there and spend money and be able to make it work so I just wanted to say that the last thing is um one of the emails that we got somebody had suggested um that Michael Pollock when they build their some of their projects that they put in trees first like if if this gets approved tonight put trees in tomorrow so the trees can start getting built as you are doing all the other things that would need to get done to get this project off the ground is that something that you would consider because that that seems like a good idea because somebody else was talking about how long it takes to grow trees and canopies U mayor vice mayor let me let me do the opposite um the problem with this site and I don't know if that's we can try to put something on there but as you know and we talked about there's been dirt been kind of put over there right so the actually the the level of that site is very high and actually the first thing we're going to do is take it all the way down right and so I don't want to put trees that are going to be run over by Bobcats and construction equipment you know and so I don't know if I would n if the site was going to be vacant I would put trees on it you know but what we don't want to do is put a bunch of trees that are now going to be torn out and so that that's what I would say to you but at the same time you know what we are doing is and as you may see from our landscape plan I think we talked a little bit about this we put in double rows of trees so we put more trees than are than are allowed and I think they started 8 feet right so we didn't even put in you know they're not going to start at three they're going to start at eight and they're similar to what I have in my backyard and they grow to 30 feet pretty quickly so you know we're going to put in a double row of trees they're going to grow quickly right and so just confirm you Dan I think that's right but so I I think the plan you know we we will make that place look you know we will put trees in we're going to start as soon as we can but I think the first thing we have to do is bring the height of the site down and I think putting in any trees are going to will just kill the tree and I don't want to necessarily do that okay I appreciate it thank you okay thank you anyone else thank you okay Council chin another question thank you mayor first I'd like to Echo what vice mayor garid just said um I'll speak for myself but my guess is this sentiment is shared by my colleagues we appreciate the input we don't want to make decisions in a vacuum so all of the data points that you all provide are important for us to hear um I am at this is one of those difficult situations and decisions I don't think I have a question so if you want okay okay thank you I didn't know if you had any questions thank you no I don't think so um we have to weigh I have to weigh I'll speak for myself I have to weigh the priorities of our community of the larger community and housing is absolutely a need diversity in housing many of you pointed out that you would prefer some um hold on some things technolog Technologies is not working right now some I'll okay I can still talk are we are we okay okay um some of the residents mentioned that they would prefer some other types of housing true we need those also we also need Workforce housing uh you've heard from employees from business owners that's critical right now in this economy um I I think he left but I had a chance to speak with a resident this week uh he was kind enough to give me some time and shared with me his perspective and he had uh he was very hesitant and was opposed is opposed to this but it was good to hear from him and he shared with me this was interesting he pointed to and he's a just a mere seven-year resident right compared to a 50-year resident um so he didn't know some of the history of something he brought up he brought up and pointed to a project in temp that he said we need to do more of those that's Innovative that's cool it draws people and while not the same in scope and not the same type of project still difficult and we had a lot of residents and people voicing their hesitancy and opposition it was that tempy Town Lake the tempy Town Lake is now the second most visited place in Arizona and it took leaders at that time to understand the needs of the community and listen and help shape that project with resident input with everyone participating but we have to look at the community and what we all need for the betterment of more of us than just some of us thank you mayor thank you so I I'll go now um couple of things so as my colleague said I really appreciate the input of everyone who came out to speak about this whether Pro or con and greatly appreciate you taking the time during two public hearings to spend some time with us when I try to make decisions about how to address these very difficult policy issues I do look at a few different documents uh one I look at the general plan we have a recent General plan that was approved by voters this past March uh got approved at 60% of the people who voted voted for that General plan and so when I looked at this project you know the general plan as I was taking my notes allows for up to 45 dwelling units per acre at this site which means that the project that's being proposed at the site is actually 50% of of what could be proposed so the developer in this situation is actually building something that is much lower than what they could do according to the voter approved General plan in an effort to try to make sure that they're being responsible and responsive to the concerns of surrounding neighbors and the point about that is so buildings that they have here on this site and I asked staff about this they're located at least 80 feet from the nearest residential property lines which is actually more than eight times greater than what's required by Tempe City code so they're not going to be backing up directly to people's homes there's going to be a lot of distance between this proposed development and the existing neighborhoods that are already there and I think that once again speaks to the developer being responsive to the concerns of neighbors saying I don't want people staring into my backyard or I don't want to feel like my privacy is being encroached upon um I also agree with some of the comments before about saying that there need to be additional single family home ownership options in this community that are affordable uh you know we've partnered with uh Habitat for Humanity we donated I think 19 lots to Habitat at one point to build 19 single family homes we work with new town Community Development Corporation to also build affordable uh for sale property in this community Through the Tempe micro Estates project uh that's right right around Apache Boulevard and we'll continue to work with those organizations and with anyone who can help us build it but I don't think in this situation given the fact that you've got two heavily trafficked arterial streets I don't think that a single family development works here or that actually would be safe for the homeowners who live in that area and we had a very similar challenge when it came to the northwest corner of Rural and Warner that we just approved a couple of weeks ago because they were many people in that area for years who said we really would like to do single family homes right at the B at the at the corner of this very busy intersection and I felt the same way there as I do here that there's a reason why there's going to be a retail Center going at that place because that was a much more appropriate use for that land than three or four single family homes which I'm concerned people wouldn't really want to live in anyway because they're backing right up to two major arterials so if you talk about traffic that's not a kind of home I probably would personally want to live in the other thing is when I look at the character area plan and I know vice mayor Garland was going through that as well on page 25 it actually talks about just a partial list of the public meetings and events from the southwest Tempe character area plan and all of these meetings were held in 2024 so they were all held this year I counted at least 19 to 20 meetings between meetings in the neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhoods as well as uh applicable boards and commissions so there were at least 19 to 20 meetings to get people's input and feedback about what they felt they needed in this area and one of the things that was pointed out was enhancing affordable housing but also if I go to page 52 of that plan section e one of the things it it talks about in terms of how to do this is promote housing that is Affordable and accessible and this is specifically for character area 6 uh that is Affordable and accessible to a variety of individuals in the area this should be achieved by promoting and encouraging a wide array of dwelling units that include the missing middle duplex Triplex fourplex Town Homes three to four story walk-ups Courtyards live workspaces smaller multi-unit complexes and similar types that cover the middle range between single family homes and large mid to highrise unit buildings which I believe is exactly what this building is it's a three-story apartment complex it's not a highrise I think that a 20 or 25-story building would be completely inappropriate for this area but a three-story building especially with what some of my other colleagues have talked about given some of the other apartment complexes that are in the immediate vicinity on kyne and Elliot and Grove Parkway is not out of character with what's already in the existing neighborhood it actually Blends in quite nicely because there are other apartments that are exactly look exactly like this one would um the other thing that I just you know want to like make sure that I can point out very quickly here as well is and I won't belabor this because I talked about this at the previous hearing uh but the traffic issues you know yes absolutely I mean a a place that is a vacant dirt lot any use whether it's homes or commercial or you know retail grocery whatever it happens to be is definitely going to increase car trips but when I look at the uses that would be from my perspective appropriate at that corner multifamily is one of the most appropriate uses from a traffic standpoint because it's going to add fewer car trips that adding a grocery store or adding a retail Center I think all the time about the residents that we've talked to who live right around Southern and Rural and once again this is no shade on any of these businesses around here we love them all but I mean if you look there's a Walmart there on the northwest corner of Rural and Southern and there's a fries on the northeast corner of Rural and Southern that's been an area where our traffic is Engineers have had to work very hard to address very high traffic volumes and very high accident volumes due to the fact that you have two major commercial centers that are right there directly adjacent to one another if we went ahead and added and we wouldn't have the ability we don't we can't add a grocery we don't run grocery stores but when I look at the concerns about traffic this is the lowest intensity kind of use that I feel would be appropriate at this corner based on proper City Planning and any other use that is commercial in nature is going to greatly increase car trips to a level where I do think we would be surpassing that 40,000 cars a day standard that Miss Syler talked about earlier uh the last thing though that I just want to say is that I I I will say I I am I was a little concerned though with some of the comments that you know I read and I once again I I I definitely understand that everyone's viewpoints are very personally and sincerely held and I do respect that but I am concerned about some of the the concerns about people renting and I'm not saying necessarily people who spoke here but some of the comments that I've read in the paper you know when I think about myself just as an example and I'll speak for myself you know I moved to Tempe 21 years ago and council member vice mayor Garland talked about being over by Mill and Southern I moved into an apartment complex when I was 24 years old that looked very much like the one we're talking about this evening it was sort of a garden style apartment complex right at Mill and Southern it's still there um and I had a very sort of a probably what would be considered Ed Workforce rent for that time I lived there for a couple of years then moved to another apartment complex then bought a home that I lived in for 14 years but that same person who lived in that Garden style apartment complex back in 2003 joined the city council in 2008 and have been fortunate to serve as mayor now in my second term I'm very deeply invested in the community and I was a renter when I first moved here but after a year and a half of being at ASU getting getting a graduate degree and I thought I was initially going to leave after getting a master's to go do a PhD somewhere else I fell in love with this place and I wanted to be here and so while living in that apartment I fell in love with this city which is what made me go and purchase a town home that I lived in for that 14 years so I I think that there are a lot of us at some point in our lives either who have lived in apartments or have kids who've lived in apartments and I think those people are every bit as part of the community as anyone who owns a home my grandmother who lived in New New York City who died at the age of 95 who went to church every weekend who Babys had everyone's kids who was deeply involved in the community she never owned a home in her entire life and I can tell you that woman was as much of a part of the community as anyone else who owned a home last thing I will say once again on a personal level I owned that home for 14 years I sold the home in June of 2020 a month before I actually assumed office here I chose to rent an apartment in downtown Tempe where I still live to this day I've lived there for 4 and A2 years and the reason why I moved there was not because I had bad credit it was not because I you know had some I didn't want to be here or wasn't invested in the community I moved there because I was trying to pay off student loans that I had held from getting one degree from the University of Michigan and one degree from Arizona State University and I've been carrying around that student loan debt for over 20 years and I wanted to find a way then once I became mayor to extinguish that so I could get that Albatross from around my neck and the reason why I chose to sell the home one was so I could actually live in downtown and be closer to work and I can walk to work now at about five minutes or less especially if it's not 115 degrees but the second reason was because I knew that by moving into an apartment as opposed to owning a home at that point in my life was that all of the maintenance would be taken care of and I would have more time to focus on actually doing my job on behalf of the nearly 200,000 residents that live in the city but also because I knew exactly what my costs were going to be each and every month I wasn't going to have to worry about a hot water heater breaking I wasn't going to have to worry about a roof needing to be replaced in 2018 in the home that I owned I had a slab leak under the concrete back in 2018 that required me to completely do redo the bottom floor and once they did they also found asbestos in my home because it was built in 1964 well that's how they built homes and I had to live with my dad in auki for a month uh so I mean once again it got fixed but the reality was those were costs that I didn't expect and was not able to plan for and it put a tremendous financial hardship on me at that time in my life but I knew that by renting for this period of time in my life I would have the ability to know exactly what I was going to pay every month and in less than two years I paid off all of my student loans which I will tell you right now were $78,000 because I knew what my costs would be and I was able to appropriately budget and I knew I would never have to spend a penny more than what I was actually spending in rent so for me it was not a circumstance renting was a choice and so I I I want to make sure to make that very clear I tell these personal stories to say I have lived this experience personally and I'm not saying I'm not this doesn't apply to everyone but I want to make sure that we are talking about homeowners and renters in the same category we all love Tempe we all want to be here we all want our community to progress and be better but we have to make sure to understand that renters are not transients are people like each and every one of us and I think they deserve the same level of respect as people who happen to own a single family home so with that I will yield counc um thank you so much um I do want to Echo all my colleagues today and say thank you for all the input um in information that we got today you know I mayor Woods kind of stole exactly what I was going to say too as um I was going to tell my similar to my story is that you don't know what you're going to get until you get it like I let me explain that to you I'm sitting here right now but I start off on Section 8 I if people didn't allow me to rent I couldn't afford to take care of my sons and when you say when when we hear that renters are not you know good stewards or they're going to be transients that's not I lived in the house that I was on Section 8 for for 12 years in that time I raised my sons I finished school I got a better job I pay taxes and I also took and I also I became a part of the community no one knew that but it's only fair we can't say only certain areas or my neighborhood isn't good because where's that leave we when we have people who come to us on when they were talking about housing that we were shortage people were saying I can't have PE I don't uh we had we had people say we don't want Section 8 people or we don't want renters there where are they supposed to go I understand that you you know that you have your home cuz I have my home I've been in my home for now for almost 15 years years and I love my home but my next door neighbor she's on Section 8 and she lives in a house right next to me I just want people to understand that everybody deserves a chance in life and it should not matter if you live in north or south east or west TP you're part of T so um and it hurts when we here oh my God they're renter they're transient they're going to bring down the property values that's not I mean you think about that I'm standing here today and I didn't bring down my property values and I'm going to continue to fight for every single person rather you rent own walk through run through the City of Tempe so I just want to say that um that it does matter it matters what we have we need all types of housing in Tempe you're right it's not going to fix the housing crisis but it's a tool in our toolbox to continue on we have to continue to build on there's going to we're going to have houses we're going to rent we're going to have houses we going to buy we're landlock there's not going to be a lot of single houses we can buy we can make in we can build in the city of TP but we still continue to grow so um with that mayor um is it time for us to make the vote I would like to make the motion um for for the project okay it's been moved by council member hodj seconded by council member Adams Council Amberg Mr Mayor thank you um kind of stinks going last because everybody kind of stole all of my thunder all my notes that I wrote like an hour and a half ago um I do want to thank everybody that came out today not just that but everybody that emailed I want to give a special shout out to uh Randy Scala who actually met with me in person um he wanted to do a zoom and I'm not that kind of person I actually like meeting with folks uh in person and you know I got to tease him because he was emailing us at 3 o'clock in the morning uh which I found incredible uh and also incredible that I was actually up at 3 o'clock in the morning reading the emails as well because I couldn't sleep um so I'm a mom I've got four kids all four of my kids have gone through public school um I live in South Tempe I actually moved down there in '98 so I'm very familiar with this corner my two daughters played lacrosse I cannot tell you the number of Lacrosse practices and the number of lacrosse games that I've been to it bened at Sports Complex been late to a few of those because of that train I totally understand that all of my holiday decorations are in that storage facility that are just below the worst McDonald's apparently and tempy I never gone there so I don't know so I'm very familiar with this corner but I will tell you that my kids you know they went to Wagner Elementary School one of their favorite teachers um Miss Gary I don't know if anybody else remembers Amanda Gary Miss Gary she had to live with her parents she lived with her parents for the six years that she was teaching at Wagner because she couldn't afford uh to live here but she'd actually gone to Wagner and it had always been her dream to come back after she got her degree and to work there and the only way to do that was to be able to live with her parents because we just didn't have the housing down uh in South temp Pete that would afford her to be able to work and live uh close to where she was at you know again I know a lot of people have said this you know one project is not going to solve affordable housing it's not going to solve an in Tempe it's not going to solve in am Maricopa County in Arizona anywhere in the United States but this is just one step and if we start saying no to each one of these steps we are never going to get to where we need to be as a community um again this is one tool if you look at our agenda we are actually going to be uh listening to some uh about some ordinances in Tempe where we're going to be voting on adus which is also going to again just one more tool and our toolbox in order to try to solve this problem you know being up here kind of stinks this is one of those times where it does and I you know question why I went through everything that I did to come up here to get elected but you know it's it's a balance it's a balance between one community and the community as a whole and there are just certain topics and certain I don't know what the word I'm looking for but that just kind of supersede individual needs and I really honestly think that this is one of those thank you thank you any any further comments or questions no no Mr Mayor but I need to clarify my motion um to adopt the zoning map uh amendment project as item C I mean 8 C2 okay sounds good okay so it's been moved by counciler hodj do I have a second second counciler Adams uh any further comments or questions on this item all right hearing none please vote Yes I and that item passes 7 to zero all right I'm going to go back here to item 8 A2 which is to approve the request to modify a development plan review for a new 27 story mixed use development with 306 units for Sky TP located at 780 South Myrtle Avenue the applicant is Snell and Wilmer LLP let's see do we have a presentation Mr wood good evening a little stiff I'm sitting there mayor members of the council Nick Woods Snell and wmer one East Washington Street Phoenix and um I represent the hubard group tonight is just a an amendments again to a development plan review we were here a little bit more than a year ago uh with both a zoning change as well as a development plan review and at that time the number of units and the design was really a function of um a market analysis that was done by my client in late 2021 when they first started looking at the at the project and of course in late 2021 we were just coming out of the the covid effects and of course the market has evolved quite dramatically so today fast forward to today several years later and we are looking again at the market uh and talking to the capital markets both uh debt and equity obviously we took another look at the market so um the market now is telling us that we need to make a few changes with respect to the number of units and the type of units and of course by changing the unit mix and the type of units it changes a little bit of the uh Dimensions um and the geometry within the building itself so um this is the slide is you know I think all but one of you was here when we did the the project more than a year ago um m northwest corner of the intersection of Myrtle Avenue and University um as you can see here more closely we're right across the street from Mirabella and Omni to the South we're next to 11 16 East University where caddy Corner um from the West in in the olivan union so U this is the site with uh this type of product um this is the condition of the site right now the client uh if this is approved tonight will start construction in the second quarter of 2020 25 um the previous U unit mix we had 51 Studios uh we're now proposing 108 Studios what the market is telling us is again the demand and and my client is a um uh not a student housing developer um they have high rises all over the country we have one already in the valley which is in downtown Phoenix has been open now for well over a year and doing very well um and they have two types of um Studios they have the conventional studio and then they have a studio with like an extra room although it doesn't have a devising wall and a door but it's still something that they can actually put a bed in so we're increasing the number of Studios from 51 to8 um got rid of the one-bedrooms the market is telling us that the one-bedroom is not that popular however the demand for two bedrooms has increased quite dramatically you again we're looking at Young professionals the idea is a very high end product uh for young professionals and the idea of having an extra bedroom um has become much more demanding and then actually going to have 54 three bedrooms there's been a transition you know I've been doing this for almost 45 years and and all the high rises that I've done you know throughout the valley um especially in downtown Phoenix and here I've always been waiting to see when maybe some families would start living in high rises um and we're beginning to see some of that so idea is we're actually increasing the unit count by 25 units uh which is uh not significant uh we're still parking it within the city's code requirements um so we're required to have 20 uh um 49 uh parking spaces we're going to provide 251 so by changing the unit mix and the types of units it's made some changes to the floor plans and as a result it made some changes to the exterior of the building um as you can see they're not dramatic changes basically on the left you can see that there was kind of double um um balconies on the one side and and then of course now we have it single um I think actually the the architecture looks even a little bit better now with these changes um same thing here in this other elevation um we had doubles together and now we've split them um and even on the North side um North exposure we've actually now added some wind goes into the area and and some balconies on the on the other uh side um so essentially it's the same you know uh streets type um condition uh which is really again high-end with all the commercial we have so that hasn't changed the same thing with the uh trees and and um the Landscaping uh along the street um we've worked very closely with staff as usual they've been very helpful in helping us uh get this done there's a number of stipulations that are being proposed we're uh fine with each one of those in addition um the client has going to include your um um uh the building code uh implementation for lead certification including uh storm water management light pollution reduction Mitigation Of Transportation impacts bicycle parking um providing minimum spaces uh building water use reduction irrigation system Design Energy Star appliances smart meter installation material emissions and things like that so that's also part of this project so I know it's late so I try to keep it short uh with that I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have sounds good thank you Mr wood really appreciate it um counc Adams yes I think it's great that you added some more units and I think it's a beautiful pro project and we need more um Market Place housing down here and and this really fills the bill um so I'm excited about the project and I just think it's very well um put together so thank you for bringing this excellent proposal forward for us thank you you bet a motion to approve quick quick thing I should get can I withraw for one second actually um so this is actually not a public hearing item I did get two cards on this item though and want to see because this is sort of a different circumstance where something was before us and it had two public hearings prev previously and I've got two and I want to make sure that people do have an opportunity to speak from a transparency standpoint so I'm just going to go ahead and call these cards really quickly then Mr wood I can bring you back up um the first card I have this evening is from Nolan Williams please come forward state your name and city of Resident you have three minutes hello noan Williams again I would just like to say that I think all of that looks great I think it would be great if the city had a process where changes like these could be done administratively without being brought before Council I think we all saw how long Council went tonight and you guys are getting a very busy schedule and the busyness of your schedule when dealing with housing items is a m causes a material impact on how much housing can be built in the city and so I would like it if I think this is a great thing it seems like they made great changes and I would like it if changes like this in the future the city adopted more ways of doing things administratively rather than going through the city council process and getting full city council approval thank you thank you the only other card I have is from Samuel the okay all right thank you very much all right is there anyone else then wishing to speak on this item if so please get my attention okay I will close the public testimony portion of the public hearing and I'll go back to uh comments from council members uh council member chin thank you mayor Mr wood I have some questions thank you uh I wanted to confirm a few numbers with you if that's all right and I don't know if you want to bring up that slide with the previous numbers bedrooms units and the current yep thank you so to confirm you're increasing the number of units by 25ish that's correct okay then uh the bedrooms you're increasing by 216 did I do the math right that's correct roughly how about this I'll say roughly that way you and I don't have to be held to the map on that and uh you're increasing those but you're decreasing the number of parking uh Spaces by 20 that's correct okay um and your target audience for this development are young professionals high-end it's a market rate building okay um previously my concerns remain so I'm going to ask you we'll revisit it a little bit um my concerns were not with density we have created an area within Tempe where that density can exist so let me be clear on that my concerns were the traffic and uh the parking available that would now then spill over into the area that would impact the businesses and the other residents so and also um because that audience your target audience for residents is also the similar a similar audience that uses widely GrubHub right all the delivery services for food and and are um and this is a good thing but they use the shared ride systems that are widely available now my concerns if you will recall is the very narrow Alleyway to the north of this building that uh that you were depending on for deliveries and okay and there was no or one spot for shared ride pickup and deliver to stop to meet with the residents to exchange or for them to deliver Myrtle is a two lane road and that was also my concern in addition to the parking the traffic and the effect on the neighboring area have you adjusted any more of that with these changes sure mayor council member chin um we had a long discussion about that the last time and I know that was your concern uh we talked about it some more and and again I'm not an expert in all I know is I have my car and I I use it all the time and um and and my wife and I live in Optima Camel View it's a condo in downtown Scottdale and we have deliveries all the time um what happens in downtowns right and it's happening everywhere like in the city of Phoenix for example they have recently altered their parking demands and actually lowered them because again in especially downtown areas where you only require one parking space per dwelling unit and you have units that are two and three bedrooms each um and it's the same thing with ride pickup we can provide space in the back but people are going to be picked up and dropped off right there along the street and there's parking along the street but at the end of the day I mean we have a lot of ass certain size uh we have a project where the zoning has been approved for the height and everything else that we have all we can do is the best we can do with what we have to work with so I I appreciate your concerns um the this is a client that manages highrises in downtowns all over and when you spend 150 to $200 million you don't want unhappy tenants um so they they do a good job at managing it I guess that's the only respons I can share with you thank you thank you so much any other oh vice mayor Garland just along the same lines that that council member Chim was saying is I thought I read in the paperwork that this is also um um the area where drop offs will be will actually is actually smaller now um because of some of the changes that had to be made that that in the alleyway where things would be I think it's a garbage truck or something else like that that that area is is now has shrunk no actually mayor vice mayor is actually larger it's larger m in that alley in that it allow it actually allowed us to make it larger that was like four feet I think is what I saw I'm just curious just a quick question Mr wood on my end as well um I know we briefly talked and you talked about how you felt that the parking plan at this point was actually stronger than the previous parking plan you had before us because of the elimination of Tandem parking I'm just curious to kind of get like more of an explanation about why you think this this revised plan is better than the original one sure mayor thank you because of the geometry that we had in the location of columns and other things we had a number of Tandem spaces which are not very efficient and we had a number of compact spaces now all of our spaces are conventional size okay thank you anyone else any further comments or questions okay okay okay so there's been a motion by council member Adams second second by council member hodj second any further comments or questions all right with that please vote yes yes okay and that item passes 5-2 with vice mayor Garland and council member chin voting no okay next up we'll go to item 5 [Music] A3 which is to approve the U actually no excuse me excuse me why did I say five you're right oh my God it's late thank you Council pin actually what I need to do though is I know we have one more speaker for another item here uh and I want to make sure that we get to that so I'm car jumping around again but let me go to uh item 8b1 which is only an introduction in first hearing but that's to introduce and hold the first public hearing to adopt an ordinance for a code text Amendment within the Tempe zoning and development code section 3-42 accessory dwellings and other related sections to implement mandates enacted by the legislature of the State of Arizona for Adu amendments the applicant is the City of Tempe good evening Ryan good evening mayor members of the council we'll be going over the presentation for accessory dwelling units draft ordinance okay so uh good evening we'll be going over for the uh accessory donating ordinance uh Provisions uh the objective the overview of the public input and research we received on this process and the draft Adu language as well as the timeline to finish out the process uh the objectives are based on our requirements to meet House Bill 2720 which mandated a requirement for regulations for Adu by January 1st of 2025 this also provides us options for greater affordability and housing option types extra income opportunities for homeowners and to be able to facilitate multigenerational living these uh accessory donated ordinance amendments closely aligned to our city council priorities related to filling invited to participate in the city decision process quality of life with ending homelessness age-friendly Community design and as well as achieving housing inventory ratio so we started this public in process uh back in the fall of 2023 and edited in may we actually had two different sessions where we reported back to City Council on this topic of adus uh back in October 16th we had a well attended meetings with the public library we had Zoom meetings uh we had a survey online with over 200 responses and we met with neighborhood advisory commission city council and a breakfast with Beretta was very well attended 123 attendees um and then we had a second round after we heard reported back to city council Council wanted us to do some additional Outreach additional research and and gather that feedback while also noting that during this process there was review from the state legislature of a draft proposal to mandate adus we had a more U meetings we had a longer survey process that had uh well over 600 responses uh tripled the the initial uh survey again meetings in three different areas both north Tempe Central Tempe and South temp n b and again uh forther feedback from our data advisory commission which is very keen on this subject matter all that with um then wrapping up uh held presentations with various different boards and commissions development review commission Transportation historic preservation sustainability resilience commission Broadmore neighborhood and then our mayor's youth advisory commission as well as part of that research and process we also were asked to look at and and develop and refine a process that will allow us to look at pre-approved plans or pre- reviewed plans we did research from other cities and municipalities which are uh doing a very similar process that we're interested in doing as well is creating a list or library of pre-approved plans that can arrange in a a variety of improved lower cost and a way to expedite the process So the plan is to get pre-approvals for this building code process and then just requires the applicants to submit a site plan identifying set back the requirements for the process we are currently conducting um some additional research and forming a committee that allow us to develop then an RFP process and create a competitive process to get those uh pre-approved plans we're also meeting with the sustainability commission to get some feedback directly on what type of sustainability elements that we will have as part of those Adu plans so we look forward to sharing more information on that topic in the coming months now the draft Adu ordinance um a as a result of what happened for um the adoption of House Bill 2720 which requires municipalities 75,000 more to adopt um Adu regulations we do have currently Adu regulations which are a smaller version that allow in multif family areas some of the requirements now that were required by state state law that basically can no longer be debated by the public process we are we are limited in identifying the Adu size we were restricted on parking regulations um restrictions on short-term rentals was addressed in the house bill and then there was a lot of questions from the community members about what's the impact on HOAs and specifically I do want to address the HOA question because that has come up a lot in the community meetings the state law adopted does not impact neighborhoods with ccrs which can be more restricted or even limit the use of adus so it's important to recognize although the house bill Limited municip alties from doing design review or aspects of requirements um for for um City Review process uh an HOA or HOA ccnr that might have a design review process still applies in that situation or whether ad are outright restricted um so it's important that on neighborhoods please check with your HOAs find out what your regulations say um if it has no information on it then adus could be allowed within your HOAs or or your board could potentially adopt regulations that might restrict the use of adus or the number of adus on a property the state requirements also include um in in the draft ordinance we're allowed to have one attached and one detached adus or single family dwell dwellings are per are permitted use so that's two adus uh we must also allow one additional Adu on Lots one acre or more as a restricted affordable unit unit uh so this third unit um then will give the city the ability to then require one of those three Adu units to be restricted affordable unit and that's um restriction place um allows an earning of no more than 80% or less of Ami in the area so this is something that the um proper owner agrees to they have to provide um um household or renters that can that meat that that criteria and also provided at a rent that it is at a market rate of 80% of Ami the um also we must allow um up to 1,000 ft of an Adu size or 75% of the gross FL area of the main residence whichever is less for Lots one acre or more in size we do we do propose to have additional um allowance for size of up to 2,000 ft and not more than 75% of the residence this is the offset of consider in what um guest quarters were allowed for in part in parts of the areas of the cities where you might have much larger homes that had guest quarter Provisions in the past and now we've Incorporated the guest quarter provision Provisions with this Adu so down here Below in the corner you have a little illustration just as an example of what an attached Adu looks like and what a detached Adu is on the site you you can have both and then there's a third Adu on the on the property site specifically as it rate relates to 1 acre lots in 10p there's a total of 233 Parcels um 16 in the northern portion of Tempe and 217 Parcels in the South Tempe portion primarily most of those neighborhoods are within um HOAs that have CNR regulations so it's important to find out if you're allowed to have adus in those areas um other restrictions uh required um by the state um we cannot require uh evaluating familiar status for pre-existing relationships between occupant that means we're not looking at the um um The Familiar status it can be renters they can be separate family members living on there they don't have to be related to the primary residents um we cannot require additional parking or or require any fees to wave any additional parking requirements um we can't require the Adu to match the exterior design roof pitch or material of the single family dwelling and we can't require improvements outside of the property such as public Street improvements that might result in the Adu um being proposed for the site um we're we're limited on setting restrictions for those single family dwellings regarding height setbacks lot size coverage or building frage so basically we're looking to match most of those uh development setbacks that were we had originally proposed in the process but what specifically the state also did a step further is um said that we cannot uh require setbacks any greater than uh 5 ft from the side rear or side setbacks for the property that means in some areas where you might have say for example a rear setback of 15 that setback now is 5 ft from that rear property um city can't require CCR restrictions on the adus and we cannot prohibit the use of an Adu as a short-term rental this is another topic that had come up from the public of not wanting to see adus used as short-term rentals although the state did provide an option in the um in the state legislation talking about uh the city's having the ability to acquire on-site owner OCC occupancy when proposing Adu for short-term rental um this occupancy requirement is not applicable to properties with current Adu regulations so the current properties have multif family and that that exemption would would go would continue for a threeyear period we do have a proposed separate ordinance that identifies this proposed um ordinance provision that would require on-site residency for for adus being used as short-term rentals we also uh looked at uh modifying um adus that are in multif family districts that ensuring that they conform to the maximum allowable livable area otherwise the property is subject to the multif family development standards um if an ad removes a required parking safe for the main residents there still is a requirement to provide those parking spaces back in another location so an example might be if you convert a garage to an Adu unit and they need now to provide those main residents parking in another location it may trigger a use permit process to allow them to park in the front yard setback a pretty common occurrence that happens when when properties want to expand their relable space area there uh we limit the units to no more than three bedrooms in the 1,000 ft Adu size um there's a requirement for Unique addresses so you'll see in there we identify for example an A or B uh whether or not the ad unit uh needs to be address and this is important so that we can um provide appropriate and quick responses to our um our community that we need to provide public service to call for emergency or someone's in need of service we need to be able to respond to that property as soon as possible uh we do require residential connections to sewer water and utility services in conformance to City standards we also U make sure that the provide the Adu provides its own sleeping sanitation facilities and includes cooking facilities we are allowing alternative construction types as well which which is is new for for Tempe uh we're allowing a subject to meeting those applicable Bing codes so you may see an option opportunity for pre-fabricated or pre-built homes that allowed to be placed on the site as long as on a permanent foundation and complies with uh TP building codes um it'll be allowed we are also repealing the guest quarters uh provision sections and allowing the guest quarters within the Adu regulations previously it was limited to property only up to 10,000 square F feet now anyone that that has the provisions allowed for a to use can also have guest quarters regardless of your size of your property so the existing guest Quarters on properties May remain they would just be considered non-conform use for the development if they want to they can take the guest quarters and convert it to an Adu uh subject to the regulations adopted for the Adu code this would also give us the ability to then terminate that rental Covenant that was required U that said in the past that you couldn't rent your guest quarters so um there's an option to basically convert the Adu to the standards when the unit is proposed for rental uh we've got more information on online with all this input um drafts of the public hearing online so uh the public is welcome to look at those copies uh we have here our first Council hearing October 1st uh we'll be coming back to you on November 21st for a final hearing and then this ordinance would be in effect be able to start receiving permits by December 21st of this year I'd like to thank the team here involved with this process and ask if Council has any questions at this time sounds good let me do this really quickly here we we uh this is a public hearing item so I have one person wishing to speak then I'm going to turn to council comments right after that uh so let me call up one person here it's Nolan Williams I'm sorry welcome back please St your name in place of residence you have three minutes thank you again again Nolan Williams Tempe daily park uh I think Tempe is handling this really really well if we look at Scottdale they are squirming they're doing everything in their power to not allow new people to live in their communities if we look at some of the Cities I emailed buch of the cities and asked what are you doing with adus some of them were like we're not going to do anything or we don't like this we're looking at all of our available options to make this not happen Tempe is looking forward and providing they're doing the Tucson plan a better version of what the Tucson plan is which is doing pre-approved designs that's phenomenal right Tempe is looking at a lot of stuff that is going to make it really easy for people to build new home build new homes on top of existing homes either to get rental income to supplement their lives and retirements or to be available for when they need extra room for their family or to build for family and the rent later whatever it is people need temp is going to make it a lot easier for them one thing I would like to caution and one thing I would like to suggest is the parking rule with the garages um I think Building a garage adus is going to be very common there are a lot of neighborhoods in temp that have carports that will be turned into adus I live in a room that used to be a carport that was turned into a a bedroom right which would be a great Standalone Adu if they built a wall on the inside and gave me a kitchen but I expect that people are going to want to do a lot of garages and I think the city wants to see a flood of new affordable naturally affordable Adu rental homes I think the city you guys probably do not want to get a flood of use permits about garages and parking and I would suggest that I think currently the system that we have right now is that if someone is converting a garage to anything they're losing what is considered a parking spot even if they have a driveway and I think if somebody has a driveway up to a parking lot it should be considered automatically parking for the width of those two cars because people usually don't park two cars in a two-car garage and then two cars blocking them in front of it I know that's not super common it's logistically difficult for the people that live there so my suggestion is that if someone is maybe we add to the ordinance or we make a new ordinance that says if someone is converting their garage to a bedroom or to an office or to an Adu and they have a driveway up to that garage that it is administratively or by right that that just becomes a new parking spot but other than that I think temp is doing a phenomenal job especially compared to the other cities and I'm very very happy with how things are going thank you thank you appreciate it this is a public hearing item is there anyone else in the audience wishing to address us on item 8b1 if so please get my attention Cas seeing none I'll close the public testimony portion of the public hearing uh let me go council member Hodge then council member Adams thank you um Ryan I just have to ask you one quick question um when we were talking about the when you get to the third Adu um Drilling and you say that it has to be 80% affordable is that including if they are family if they're renting to their family and how do we conclude that that's going to actually happen sure um mayor council member not KY council member Hodge um yes so the third unit for one acre size Lots um the then the if the if they want to add a third unit then they'll have to identify one of the thre zus to be um income rental restricted by the 80% Ami so that's both providing a rent at the affordability rate of 80% Ami and then having a rent Mentor who qualifies for that range so we will be requiring forms applications process that requires them to identify um income eligibility as long as that that person could be a family member but it has to be someone that that beats that income age of that income eligibility of dedicating 30% of their their income for that rent for that unit thank you thank you Council Brams uh yes I I know that we have about 400 homes with septic systems in the um I might want you to see up here R uh so we have about 400 homes with septic systems I'm I'm wondering uh would they be required to uh go into the septics OR to do Street um sewers yeah good good questions um the residents will have options um one of the options is they could do direct connections into the city's sewer and water system another option which might be more affordable option is to have a a secondary connection from the M residence to the Adu you could even monitor how much usage is coming from each whether it's the main residence or the Adu uhuh or or just connect it all together without having a sublet but then then you're you're just saying you're going to incur those cost or or or those charges U for just the property owner and then they're just going to have a a base rate for the unit not able to identify how much say for example how much water you our sewer us usage each Adu property is providing okay thank you so they will have options okay appreciate it Council branberg thank you uh Mr Mayor Ryan so I know you can't see it up there but I'm still looking at your presentation and um the one on the left the prefab one on the left question for you it is a flat roof and I know that it's going to be now could possibly be 5 feet away from The Back Fence of their back neighbor is there a way that we would be able to prevent folks from trying to add a Sund deck or a roof you know where people can go up and hang out on that roof and actually look straight down into their backyard neighbors I mean I wasn't sure what like the state what the state law was and like we would would we be able to restrict something like that so yeah good question um so as long as the original property at least was a single family single story property we still do have the use perent requirement in life for Second Story additions so if this Adu was proposing a deck or some second level there would be a use permit or public hearing process to evaluate that type of of request so it wouldn't be something that would that would be allowed by right but it would have to go through an evaluative process through public hearing okay just just to be clear so that is for a single story what if it is an Adu that's being built on a you know the original house is two stories okay um then the second story Provisions use printer Provisions do not apply to the property because the the neighborhood or the property itself is then now already granted allowances of having uh Second Story um um dwellings or on the property so if a twostory residents then built this Adu and I'm looking at the flat roof one again and they decided just to put a railing on all four sides and it's now a Party Zone up there that they wouldn't have to come to the city to get a use permit for that is what you're saying not necessarily no but I I I haven't seen any designs especially with the units of the small magnitude that also that would even allow that maybe the capacity on a on a wall U ciling designed like that but let us take a look at that and make sure that you know we're not um having that that negative type of impact because typically the accessory dwelling is going to be um smaller in size and so you're not really going to um desire to have that type of you know capacity on top of a roof that might be uh low pitched or or um yeah it but it's certainly yeah something that we need to take into consideration for those sit situations sounds um vice mayor garell then Council perj I like the pre-approved plans I like that when we first started talking about that how the other cities were doing that the other thing that they also did was find ways to make make sure that this was streamlined so that it they didn't have to go through the normal permitting process that took a really long time so is that something we are also looking at the doing yes yes either we're going to have uh permit ready plans and or the combination of of pre-review plans so an opportunity obviously to save time which is money and also be able to lower the cost if we have some plans that they can select from a vendor and we plan to go through a competitive process um get some committee selection and we want to see some some of those product types also have sustainability elevance in them that's great okay wonderful thank you um so the HOA restrictions if an HOA in their ccnr has restrictions like my neighborhood has restrictions but if a neighborhood had an HOA and they didn't have a specific rate um restrictions regarding um adus if they rewrote theirs today or January 1 would they be able to um allowed to do that or since if we approve this by December or goes into action in December anything written after that or changed doesn't affect it yeah correct I mean you could say for example today an HOA that didn't have any restrictions on adus might allow them today but certainly could restrict them in the future if the HOA board amended their ccrs that provided those specific regulations okay just curious and then the neighborhoods who have I I I know that we have neighborhoods in the City of Tempe that has parking stickers um is that a certain amount of parking stickers that they get for their property and how would work with this that's a big topic that's come up and I know transportation is looking closely at that okay know there's concern for uh not inundating our our properties that have single family that do have a sticker program so I don't know if Shel has any updates on on whether or not adus will have of allowance for stickers but that's something that they're certainly closely looking at at this time thank you and here comes shell come shell topics come up I know it does uh thank you for the question uh shelle Syler Deputy transportation and sustainability director um one of the people who was actually going to speak tonight was going to speak on RPP we've had discussions about re-evaluating the program um and so we'll likely be coming back to you with exactly what we're going to do but we've we know we need to re-evaluate things are changing especially with adus and then just increase in development so we will be back okay great thank you thank you Ryan thank you Council BR okay my question is for you Ryan um with the new Adu will that be can housing vouchers that we give out in the city can that be used for the Adu or is that separate yes yes they can certainly okay sounds good all right any further questions for Ryan all right seeing none I just want to note too once again this is only the first public hear on this item the second and final public hearing on this item is scheduled for November 21st 2024 wonderful thank you so much I'm not I'm not doing it no oh my god look let me go to item 883 here we're g to go back all right so we'll get through this very quickly here so approve the utilization of one-year State of Arizona contracts with tte networks incorporated and corporate Technology Solutions LLC for data and Telecommunications cabling fiber optic installation and repair services in City buildings and streets in alignment with the capital impr Improvement plans for traffic sewer and water projects council members are there any comments or discussion okay it's been moved by vice mayor garid second seconded by council member Hajj please vote Yes yes and that item passes 7even to zero the next item under the section is 8 A4 which is to approve an increase to the contract amount with 54 qualified trade service contractors to provide building repair and maintenance services motion to approve okay it's been moved by council member Adams seconded by council member chin please vote I yes okay and that item also passes 7 to zero the next item of the the section is 8 A5 which is to award 9-month contracts with five one-year renewal options to Allied Universal Services team security and Windom security strategies today LLC for armed and unarmed security officer services at various City locations it's been moved by vice mayor Garland seconded by council member chin please vote I yes and that item passes 7 to Z the next item of the section is 8 A6 which is to to adopt a resolution authorizing the mayor to sign operations funding agreement number 17 with Valley Metro Rail Incorporated for the purchase and supply of Light Rail and street car transit services motion to approve it's been moved by council member Adams second seconded by council member Hajj please vote I yes and that item passes 7 to zero the last item under the section is 8 A7 which is to award job order number 24 to PCL Construction Incorporated for project number 32020 1 9b1 transmission main pipe repair located at us60 in Rural Road Council Members any comments to discussion so it's been moved by council member hodj second seconded by council member Adams by a hair please vote I yes and that item also passes 7even to zero once again the next section on the non-consent agenda is ordinances and items for introduction in first hearing the items under the section will be read and introduced tonight but no substantive votes will be taken the second hearings and votes are scheduled for November 21st 2024 we've already done 8b1 which brings us to item 8b2 which is to introduce and hold the first public hearing to adopt an ordinance amending chapter 16a license and business regulations article 10 short-term rentals and vacation rentals related to owner residency regulations for accessory dwelling units motion to approve um there's no vote action withdraw that one okay I withraw that all right thank you very much uh this also is a public hearing item is there any public testimony if so please get my attention all right seeing none I will close that portion of the public hearing um council members any comments or discussion all right seeing none the second and final public hearing on this item is scheduled for November 21st 2024 the last item under the section is 8b3 which is introduced and hold the first public hearing to adopt an ordinance authorizing the abandonment of a public sewer line easement located on the north side of Apache Boulevard in east of Price Road 2320 East Apache Boulevard which is La Victoria this is also a public hearing item is there anyone in the audience wishing to give public testimony if so please get my attention all right seeing none I will close the public testimony portion of the public hearing council members any comments or discussion seeing none the second and final public hearing on this item is scheduled for November 21st 2024 all right next section on the non-consent agenda are ordinances and items for SEC scheduled for second hearing and final adoption so votes on these items will be taken tonight the first item under the section is 8 C1 which is to hold the second and final public hearing to adopt an ordinance for a zoning map Amendment from CSS and R4 to mu4 a planned area development overlay to establish development standards and a development plan review for a new eight-story mixed use development consisting of 277 dwelling units within 57873 squ ft of building area on 3.81 acres for veale student housing located at 921 East Apache Boulevard the applicant is Snell and Wilmer LLC and that is Mr wood good to see you again mayor members of the council Nick Woods wmer one East Washington Street and I represent Gil Bane um I gave a fairly comprehensive presentation last time and it's really late um so one thing I did want to uh respond to is um council member Amberg asked me about if there's a way to to do some water uh collection basically storm water collection um we decided to to put some permeable um uh pavers and other things in here so as you can see in the blue these are all areas that are permeable some of them are hardscaped as you can see where the entry is um into the garage and with the areas down at the grade level uh so all of those are per will be permeable papers and then of course everything around it um uh and that was in response to your request with that mayor I'll um not do a presentation and uh request support were fine with the um U uh planning Department's proposed stipulation and with that I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have motion to approve thank you Mr actually we got a public hearing before that so um so this is a public hearing item is there any public testimony if so please please get my attention all right seeing that I will I will close the public testimony portion of the public hearing uh council members any comments or discussion motion to approve okay it's been moved by council member Adams and seconded by council member hjj any further comments or debate all right seeing none please vote Yes yes and that item passes unanimously to0 8 C2 of course was already completed this evening so we go to 8c3 which is to hold the second and final public hearing to adopt an ordinance repealing section 19-13 dri's files to be maintained from Article 2 traffic Administration and enforcement chapter 19 motor vehicles and multimodal traffic of the Tempe city code this is also a public hearing item if there's any public testimony can people people please get my attention Okay seeing none I will close the public testimony portion of the public hearing Council presid comments or discussion so move okay it's been moved by council member hodj seconded by council member Amberg please vote I yes and that item passes 7 to zero the last item under the section is 8 C4 which is to hold the second and final public hearing to adopt an ordinance to transfer a portion of the capital Improvement program project number 55111 42 to the economic development Property Management cost center these funds will support the continued operation of the north Tempe Food City City Plaza until the property is redeveloped this is also a public hearing item is anyone wishing to give public testimony can you please get my attention now seeing none I will close the public testimony portion of the public hearing council members any comments or discussion so it's been moved by council member hjj seconded by council member chin please vote Yes yes and that item passes 7 to Z that brings me to item number nine current events Council announcements and future agenda items once again council members May request that an agenda item be added to a future council meeting during their allotted time but in accordance with the open meeting law there should be no discussion on the item other than to clarify the request this evening I'm going to start with council member chin thank you mayor one very quick one yet important one next weekend beginning Friday and extending to Saturday and Sunday is the annual Tempe October Fest all proceeds remember go to benefit student and professional exchanges with tempy sister cities who doesn't support citizen diplomacy go eat a br I like that all right uh council member Hajj you know what for once I don't have any slides wow wow okay go I know all right all right I feel like I feel like pull scoobydoo here all right come on now you really are okay but also I just want to say two things I want to wish everybody um all of our students in tempy we're on fall break so I wish everybody a safe and Happy fall break also um we have a former governing board member here Brian Garcia so welcome good evening and also our our famous mayor today did a a wonderful speech um and he was actually congratul ulating our count our Congressman May um Congressman Stanton on having a station named after him in Phoenix and he represented the city very well so thank you so much mayor thank you council member appreciate it and that's it today all right thank you council member Amberg all right I know everybody knows that we're going to be voting soon in November but I just want to remind everybody that um very little known very but a very important race is going to be on your four-page ballot uh the central Arizona Water Conservation District Board of Directors is going to be there uh if you don't know who they is they actually oversee the central Arizona project so that's about 336 miles of canal that brings the Colorado River water to uh Maricopa County and uh parts of panal and Tucson so there's actually going to be five seats up for grabs uh in Maricopa County and if you want to go to am's uh websites Arizona Municipal Water uses system assciation uh there's a little voter guide on the six candidates so hopefully when you get there you're not voting for you know people who have the same first name as your neighbor so uh hopefully you can uh have some time get take some time and go and take a look at take a look at the candidates wonderful thank you so much next up vice mayor Garland okay thank you uh next up council member keing nothing for me mayor thank you thank you uh next up council member Adams yes I I have several announcements uh my first announcement is the Arizona theater company is coming uh again to the City of Tempe at Tempe Center for the Arts for their 57th season so it's really exciting they've been going on for a long time I'm a huge support huge supporter of the Arts and I worked out um a special deal for our community and uh so you can buy one and get one free ticket for every season show by going to ATC .org before October 19th and using coupon code badams at checkout uh the first show is October 19th and it's uh dial M for Murder so I think that will be really a fun a fun play and and uh so please consider uh attending the the um program arts in the Parks it's again time for arts in the Parks the this fall Arts Parks series will run through mid November and feature handon activities for the children live music by local bands food trucks and it's really a great event I've already attended um several of them and and it's really it's really fun and the kids have all kinds of things to do so it's a great thing to do to take your family out uh this month we have Dalmer Park on Wednesday October 16th Clark Park on Tuesday October 22nd and Indian Bend Park ones Wednesday October 23rd all events will be held from 5:30 to 7:30 they're free and we hope to see you there finally YMCA spooky Sprint and Fall Fest on Saturday October 26th the Tempe YMCA on Rural Road will be hosting its annual spooky Sprint fundraiser and this year they're even adding a Fall Fest so registration begins at 7: a.m.

the 5K race along the canal begins at 8 8:30 a.m.

and the Fall Fest will run from 9: to 11: and all those Pro proceeds will help um send kids to camp at the YMCA and costumes are highly encouraged for those spooky sprinters and they'll get a te a free t-shirt the Fall Fest is a free Event open to the public and will include a bounce house face painting crafts pumpkin painting or trick and tree or and a trunk or treat um you can register now at Valley YMCA .org spooky Sprint so I like I look forward to seeing lots of uh scary costumes out there and a fun event thank you very much that ends my announcements Mr Mayor thank you so much appreciate it uh I don't have any announcements this evening so I will move on to item number 10 which is public appearances uh remember the rules for public speaking during the first uh second public appearances obviously are the same as the first one uh so is there anyone in the audience still who'd like to address the city council if so please get my attention okay seeing none that brings me to item number 11 adjournment the next scheduled regular city council meeting is going to be on November 21st 2024 we are adjourned thank you so much everyone