Tempe approves $2.1B Bluebird arena negotiations despite Sky Harbor noise dispute

with that said i know we were still on item number two which was the bluebird presentation i'm not exactly sure where things were but i'll turn it right back over to you gentlemen [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] so thank you again apologies for the delay there for the sake of time i won't go through every use here but this is the roughly the site map 46 acres two phases call it phase one will include 1600 seat arena a practice facility a proxima theater housing a hotel 200 rooms and also a built to suit medical office building with already an interested headquarters relocation second face roughly the westernmost side 1500 units of residential housing 150 000 square feet of retail 300 room convention style hotel and 140 000 square feet of office space i will point out that our practice facility will also be here and when not in use will be a community ice rink and will also be the headquarters of our youth hockey program so big picture this project we see as a transformative development an opportunity to turn a landfill into a landmark removing 1.5 million tons of garbage but it's not really just about a hockey arena it's a thriving sports entertainment and business district it will build upon your work in revolutionizing the definition of urban redevelopment with tempe town lake it reinforces it reinforces tempe's role as a vibrant center of the entire state a gathering place almost a arizona's town square a location with folks from across the valley can live work and play we estimate approximately 400 events in both the small and the large venue and as i mentioned the community ice rink that will also be open to the public and to families it will continue also to attract the innovation companies that you all as a council and as a city have successfully recruited we see it as an urban village complementing your vision you will also hear and i won't go into details significant economic impact 6 900 permanent jobs taxes 215 million dollars for tempe over the next 30 years 18 million just in construction taxes and 10 million just in permit fees as far as economic activity 13.1 billion dollars in new spending in tempe over the next 30 years attracting three million visitors to tempe this would be the sixth largest real estate project by investment and by job creation in the country and again all done by cleaning up a landfill our goals for our proposal and our response to this rrsp were first to show that there was no financial risk to the city of tempe or its taxpayers the developer will be buying the land the city will be will not pay for any of the real estate development and the city will not have financial obligations second we wanted to demonstrate the economic impact that i just uh detailed but third we wanted to detail our capacity and capability to complete this project as i mentioned we have a world-class development team that has done this around the world we as a ownership group and as a development group have a track record of success in multiple major redevelopment projects through our hospitality and gaming properties and through our infrastructure group and i want to directly address any questions about financial strength and capability you will receive letters from seven world-leading financial institutions bank of america citibank pnc union bank fifth third bank stifle and comerica they are long time lenders of alex morello and the morello group they have recently completed successfully in underwriting of the coyotes and they have all expressed interests if and when this project would be approved to provide financing i also want to be very clear never in 40 years in business across multiple economic cycles and recessions has alex morello or any of his companies ever declared for bankruptcy we are confident that there is strong support for this project from likely tempe voters we conducted a scientific independent poll a few months ago it was done by public opinion strategies a renowned national polling firm and i will hit the highlight 76 percent of responses of respondents supported the proposal to transform this landfill into a sports tourism and entertainment hub and notably the support was highest amongst the voters in the north side of the city with 83 percent in favor in the location of this project but what this is really about is about this community right we are thrilled to already be part of the tempe community as many of you know we have already made a 20 million dollar investment into the tempe community on the campus of asu we want to thank dr crow morgan olsen ray anderson and everyone at arizona state university for welcoming us not only to tempe but to the asu family thank you for allowing us the opportunity to be part of tempe today already you have already seen alex morello's full commitment to provide the resources so that our great fans and our fans in waiting can experience one of the best and most intimate environments on the campus at asu and a brand new facility being upgraded with our private dollars to nhl standards what drives everything that the coyotes do it's our vision and our desire to leverage the power of sports to make a difference this development is that vision in action we feel very strongly that we have presented a compelling proposal but will ultimately make this project successful is the partnership we build with you and this community we humbly and respectfully request your approval to move forward and allow the developer to begin negotiations with city council and staff thank you very much i now invite nick woods to come and speak mayor members of the council nick wood snow and one more one arizona center it's so damn nice to be back here um i want to tell you a quick story it's a good news bad news story and it's really about two very elderly former professional hockey players i'm watching a coyote game and they're kind of enjoying it and one of them says you know i went into his hockey in heaven and he says well shoot there must be hockey in heaven it wouldn't be heaven without hockey yeah but i wish we really knew there's only one way i'm going to find out so adam says well let's do this we'll make a deal which one of whatever one of us dies first will come back and tell the other one which is hockey in heaven so they shook hands six months later one of them passes away his survivor is at his wake he feels awful he leaves he's walking home his head's hanging down he gets a tap on his shoulder he turns around it's a spirit form of his deceased friend he said my god you came back he said yeah we had a deal he says what's it like he's like good news and bad news the good news is there's hockey in heaven the bad news is you're playing next tuesday so the good news you saw it i'm going to tell you about the structure bad news we'll know at the end of this hearing if there is any and hopefully there's not hopefully we have an opportunity to negotiate with staff which i think would be very helpful the things i tell you about the structure none of this is carved in stone this is all a structure that was intended really to fulfill the vision of mr morello when mr morello asked me to structure this deal he talked about tempe and how important it was for him to be in tempe and i said why what's so important of course i was a tempe resident and i said i know why i'm here he said well he said so many communities talk the big talk about diversity right about inclusivity he said tempe lives it they embrace it all of the residents of the city support it he said i am a latino i've spent 40 years building over 40 companies and i've been through some tough times and and i and i am very much ingrained one of the cornerstones in fact multiple cornerstones is inclusion diversity helping people who really need help and that's what tempe is all about and because i'm latino i've always been held to a higher standard that's just part of what happens he said but because of that i want to make sure that whatever deal you structure something that this city council can hold their heads up high and not suffer any undue criticism because of it i said okay he said there's some other standards that you have to employ number one no risk to the taxpayers of tempe i go thank you for that one but he said no matter what happens right floods pandemics no risk for anyone in tempe second all buildings every one of them private must be built with private money we're not going to ask the city to build any buildings on this property our original proposal suggested that maybe the city would like us to build and then use the the bond program i'm going to talk about in a minute to actually build a parking structure for the city that would be owned by the city in fact the city of phoenix is doing that right now with the project but we thought about it we said you know what it's better that we not do that that we not add it to any bond program so we've decided in the interim to go ahead and build that parking structure ourselves part of it was because of the redevelopment that you see here we made a lot of changes as you saw to the project and one of those is obviously with respect to parking so that is no longer part of it all private development is going to be done with private money also with respect to public infrastructure right i'm going to talk to you about what happens here with all of the remediation that needs to be done and all the public infrastructure and he said the project has to pay for all public infrastructure not only that but typically when cities pay a lot of money for public infrastructure because it's public he said we the developer have to pay our share as well next tempe makes money okay he said what happens with a lot of projects is a developer you know gets money you build arenas you build stadiums city pay for those and the city doesn't make any money other than secondarily i want the city to walk away with money millions of dollars every year as long as we're here which would be way beyond the end of my life most importantly he said i want to contribute more than i receive he said that is the overall standard and that is what i want you to do so i said okay so we talked about the site to begin with and let's see here there we go you're all very well aware of the site i mean you own it you have your maintenance facility that's on it and it used to be a mining facility and it was filled with garbage that garbage is and you heard um javier mention it it's 1.5 million tons of garbage that goes down 30 feet deep now there was some garbage and tonnage that was on the boyer site but it didn't go down anywhere near 30 feet deep was anywhere from 15 to maybe 20 feet it's deepest it's bad here right it's a combination of biological waste as well as inner waste and it's expensive well we looked at the property and said what's what would we pay for this if it was clean all right just a piece of property we're gonna we're gonna bid on and we came up with 25 a square foot that's basically about 48 million dollars for a net piece of property but in looking at the 1.5 million tons of debris that has to be taken out and clean dirt replaced and because of the depth of the excavation that has to happen we have to shore up the levy that is a very expensive undertaking but again we can't go that deep without shorting up the levy because the levee could actually collapse we have to move the aps lines that are there again they run right through the middle of the site and they have to be moved and it can't just be undergrounded i mean again we're going to excavate 46 acres of land 30 feet down right so we have to move all of those and moving and it's very expensive to do that there's some title issues right that are on the property that have to be cleared up and finally there's public infrastructure regarding roadways zoos you know i mean a whole list of things those few things alone come to 62.7 cents a square foot and property is worth 25 dollars a square foot so the question is that's 130 million dollars by the way so if property is worth about 44 million you've got about 130 million dollars just a primary public infrastructure where does the money come to pay for that well i had that discussion with mr morello i said you sure you want to do this and not ask for any money he said yes number one no one buys contaminated land right they just don't they want it cleaned up because when you take title to contaminated land circular and state laws as well say you're responsible for cleanup just that's the city owns it you're responsible for cleanup uh yet he won't ask for money so we start out with saying all right mr morel has decided that in order to help clean it right from the start he's going to put up 40 million dollars of cash before anything happens after the agreement is signed if agreement is actually negotiated and signed he put up 40 million dollars of non-refundable earnest money that way there's money there to start the remediation no bonds have to be sold to due to remediation it's all cash and i said really 40 million bucks i mean if something happens you don't go through with the deal you have 40 million bucks i said as a tempe resident i'm happy to have a 40 million dollar windfall but he said there's no other way to do it the city doesn't have the cash but more importantly i'm not going to ask the city for the cash so i'm going to put up the 40 million bucks and i'm going to do the same thing in the second phase which is another 8 million dollars then we're going to do a cfd to do the public infrastructure now community facilities district is a bonding structure that the state statute permits to to be used for public infrastructure type projects is used all the time all over the state all over the valley and in this case we're using the cfd because it doesn't go on the city's balance sheet we could use an improvement district which is another bonding mechanism but the problem with that is it goes on your balance sheet as a contingent liability can't have that it goes against the grain of what mr morrow wants so we use a cfd right so where's the funds so so the cfd will produce the funds basically that will pay for all the infrastructure improvements public infrastructure and of course we have to go through and we've met with bond council we have met with bond underwriters we've met with um investment bankers who sell these bonds uh stifle is one that we've worked with in in particular um and we've uh it's it'll it'll work right so the way it's going to work is this there's two sources of revenue that pay for the bonds and this is where again mr morallo is saying i'm going to pay for it the development is going to pay for a big portion of it the city uh transaction privilege tax basically is 1.8 percent um what we're proposing originally we proposed that 1.2 percent of that be used and applied toward the public infrastructure debt but on reflection again mr marilla wants a city to make money and make a lot of money every year so we're proposing that instead of using um 1.2 percent that only 0.9 percent is used to pay for the public infrastructure and the city keeps the other 0.9 percent now that has up to over 30 years 215 million dollars that means that basically every year the city will on average receive seven million dollars in its pocket just getting up every day and breathing with this thing operating again no obligation on the part of the taxpayers no obligation part of the city where's the rest of it comes from well we are going to impose a six percent um surcharge it's like a tpt right it's a six percent surcharge that's on all business activities so every time someone spends a dollar within ted right which would be the area subject to the bond district basically they will write a a an additional amount of uh 1.8 percent right which is the city's tpt and six percent or up to six percent depending on what the final numbers for the bonds are for the balance so basically the city's portion is point nine percent and we're imposing up to a six percent surcharge on all activities that money will be collected at point of sale right and be distributed you know directly to um the uh bond trustee with the exception of the half right that the city of course will keep for that the other thing is how do we make sure that there's no risk what happens with bonds right and somehow there's a problem with the bonds everybody says well wait a minute you know the city sponsored this thing i know the city's not legally liable for it well we're gonna do something here that's unique and i've never seen it done before and um i'm getting really old and i've seen a lot of things but i've never seen this done before and what's being done is basically mr morello is going to take 2.1 billion dollars worth of real estate and place it as collateral security through an assessment lien on all that land and buildings now it's like a property tax okay essentially what happens with the property tax is if someone doesn't pay their property tax there's a tax lien someone buys a tax lien guess who's foreclosed out everybody the lenders that you just heard talk uh javier speak of they all get foreclosed out so what happens if ever for whatever reason the payment is not made right to the bondholders right immediately the banks are notified we're notified everybody's notified and guess who's going to write a check if it's not the developer or the owner of the property it's going to be the banks because they have a huge investment in this also so we've created what i call a foolproof structure so there's no debt right that is on the city's books no liability responsibility for the city the project will pay for itself in generating tpt okay it's not a situation where sometimes the city for example will take all this tpt and pledge it to pay bonds okay that's not the case here the only money that will be used to pay the bonds is money generated on site and it's the tpt that's generated from the city um and that's how the thing gets paid so the benefits as i mentioned about 215 million dollars worth of revenue for the city from just the tpt over 30 years 13.1 billion dollars in direct spending you heard javier say that that's people spending money in the city of tempe not necessarily on the site but throughout the city of tempe 6 900 jobs okay 3 million people by the way will come to this project they come from canada they come from europe i mean there's hockey fans everywhere you'll have two million dollars that are a contribution that's going to be made by mr morello and the coyotes for your affordable housing program and also he's going to talk to the general contractor and subcontractors to see if we can get them to make a contribution as well also schools uh we are proposing we'll pay 25 000 per year on each one of the jeep blitz i'm going to talk about in a second so basically it's 200 000 per eight year jeeplet and seven hundred fifty thousand dollars for the thirty year jeeplet that we're asking for the uh the arena which again i'll talk about in a moment um in addition to that we are going to provide a police station we are going to provide the city tempe with naming rights um you know having your name on there is is a big international deal free space for the city we're talking about fifteen thousand square feet of free space that you can use for the city itself that you can use for incubator space again you can contribute it to whatever group you think is appropriate making contributions to streetcar we would love to have the streetcar extended down to our our project and we're willing to make a contribution to do that we're also willing to have our tickets be used for light rail so basically we'll have a have to cut a deal with light rail that's and we'll have to pay them of course but they'll be able to use tickets and then we're going to provide transport back and forth from ted to the light rail station so that people might have a they're not all coming in their cars um so we keep that down but we we encourage them to use light rail and we're going to make a contribution to do that um public art non-relocation agreement all of these things and again these are all things that would be part of our negotiations but i i i won't be honest with you i've never had a client willing to put up this much money make these kind of commitments um so what does he get out of this well the one thing we're asking for the city to do and making all these contributions is to use jeeplets as you know in addition being a land use attorney i'm also a tax attorney i'm i have a master's in law and tax and that's why i work on all of these deals so in this one you know there i think the city of tempe has about 40 jeeplets up and down the the lake and of course in downtown and uh typical eight years now a lot of those are older ones so they're longer in term but ours would only be eight for everything but the arena and the practice facility there's a provision and as you are probably aware i represented the arizona multi-housing association a few years back we're negotiating changes to the jeeplet statute in 2017 2018.

there's a provision in 4262.08 that says entertainment facilities sporting facilities stadiums arenas convention centers they're all exempt from the restrictions or the conditions of the g plus statute as such we originally asked to do a g plate that would be about 60 years in length now why do we ask for that well it's called a level playing field all of the other arenas and stadiums in the state none of them pay property tax the reason is the taxpayers paid for them okay the baseball stadium this the sun's arena right i mean the list is long and distinguished but they're all paid by taxpayers who are all owned by the cities and all exempt from paying property tax so we would ask is that we would have a longer jeeplet for the arena right because the arena again arenas don't make money it's a project as a whole that will be profitable so at the end of the day what happens is we thought about this and we thought you know what proof's in the pudding um we want to show good faith so rather than ask for 65 we're asking for 30.

uh we think that's much more reasonable under the circumstances and again as you heard the commissioner say we will end up doing um a 30-year non-relocation agreement so that we don't move the team and and all of a sudden you end up having an empty arena because that's always a problem so with that that's the structure that's how we got here it says a lot about my clients and again we're not asking you to approve anything tonight we're just asking you for the opportunity to sit down with your staff and negotiate if at the end of the day the council i know there's going to be change in the council we'll miss the two that aren't going to be here um but at the end of the day it'll be the council's decision whether or not to support the project or say no so that's all we're asking tonight is the ability to negotiate and i'll turn over to the next person thank you introduce yourself okay all right well i'm not going to probably go over near the amount of numbers that he just went over which is absolutely incredible but mayor thank you so much council members thank you so much for the opportunity to talk my name is shane doan i've been part of the coyotes organization since we moved here in 96.

i was actually here before there was a lake out front and before there was the 202 ended at scottsdale road we didn't have the 101 so the city itself was starting to grow when i moved here i was 19 years old and i had no idea that i would ever live in arizona didn't even cross my mind as a player the team there had been no team in the nhl i moved down here from middle west canada moved down to arizona and fell in love with the state i've grown up here i've spent 26 years here now i have four kids they've all been born and raised here my wife and i have made a commitment that this is our home actually two of my kids are going to asu my son plays in the new 5 000 seat asu hockey arena which i'm very excited about to go watch and my youngest daughter just got into barrett's honor college and so she's excited to be going here she's actually doing her orientation today so she was a little nervous because everyone's way smarter than her she thinks so um we're working on that my youngest boy is is probably going to end up at asu and so asu and tempe is becoming my home as well i grew up in a very small neighborhood up in canada in a very small town and a rural area where community and neighbors matter and we all know each other we all knew who we'd know who the farmer was next to us and when they needed help we would help and i think that's probably one of the things that um as i grew older with the coyotes i started to really appreciate that that was a commitment by us as an organization to try to get involved in the community to be part of the community because it matters it's really the thing that you're going to be remembered the most for you can do a lot of things you can have a lot of success but when a push comes to shove it's the people around you that you impact and the people matter and for me that's been one of the the calling cards of leaving as a player and becoming part of the organization was that we need to be involved in the community and as an organization led by javier and our ceo we've gotten into the community in a way that's i'm proud of i'm thankful that i've had the opportunity to go to different things i've been doing it since i became part of the league the league made a commitment to to be part of that and to make sure that the community is affected in a positive way we always would say as a as a player when you come into a dressing room you never want to be a drain you always want to be a fountain and i think that as an organization that's our goal is we don't want to be a dream we want to be somebody that's filling the community adding to the community giving back to the community creating opportunities and as he heard mr woods talk that's what the goal is the opportunity that the morella family has presented is something to give back to the community and that he harps on it and harps on it and harps on it that we want to make a difference in this community we want to make it better than what we when we got here the arena development itself for tempe it's crazy when you think about what tempe looked like in 96 i remember driving along the 202 when the sun devils beat nebraska 17 nothing to become and made their run to the to the rose bowl there was no lake there was nothing there it was you could see the stadium i remember drive we'd played that night as i was driving by and you could still hear the people going crazy over that win i'm not saying that you could hear it now but with the development that asu and what tempe has done in this area the tempe town lake and what it's done is absolutely incredible and showed an insight to an ability to see what's coming in the future i i read that the tempe town lake is now the second most visited spot in the state only behind the grand canyon so good job on you guys and figuring out a way to attract everyone to to tempe as a city as its whole but this arena and this development and the vision that our ownership has of this is going to enhance that again the lake has been incredible you as you drive along it's amazing but having the ability to come the heart of the city with a development of what they've talked about that is world-class and transformative i think is a word we've used over and over again it's it's something that's so i think it's the next level for me the city it's going to help but for a hockey team i mean i'm up here because i'm a hockey player really not any other reason for me to be up here as a hockey player here in the town and as a hockey player i look around our league and i'm a competitive person and you see the tampa bay lightning who just won two stanley cups you see the los angeles kings who also have won two stanley cups both teams won after they had the development in place both teams won after they had the competitive advantage that something like this does and it makes a difference and if you want to go into tampa bay and to los angeles now which i even hate mentioning the los angeles kings but i do it's incredible the community that they've developed and the way that they've enhanced that community and the way that they take care of that community the hockey community and for me personally as a player it's incredible that we'd have an opportunity to be put on that same platform where we have a stadium and a facility that is second to none arizona as a whole totally trumps every other hockey city in my own personal opinion i mean i've chose to live here for 26 years and the the environment that you get as a player to come here if you give us the opportunity to have the same stadium and have it built here in the heart of this of the entire valley it's it's an incredible competitive advantage for us and i'm excited to see what we could have happening or maybe stanley cup goes down one of these roads or something along those lines i dream big sometimes when it gets talking about that stanley cup but for me it would create the staple franchise in the league that i've always dreamed we can be i went through a few owners over my time it's been not the easiest 26 years to be a fan or a coyote player for the coyotes as we've made it difficult at times and yet at the same time i am i believe with everything in me that if we do this we have an opportunity to become that staple franchise that everyone talks about that the whole league talks about that the world the whole hockey world as a whole talks about and all that comes back to the moreno family and their willingness to do this and their willingness to put up their own money i've had the opportunity to get to know them as a as a family and it's incredible people matter people matter to me people matter to them and that's probably one of the things that's most exciting for me is that i had the opportunity to sit down get to know mr murillo and his wife and his kids and to see their commitment to this and that's what i get excited about that if we can get this in place it gives us a chance to be a special organization and again one of those places that everybody wants to be and then my own my own personal feelings on hockey here is just it's a community that you want in your state i i see some people here that we have players here we have some people that have had huge impacts you're going to hear from lots of them the best part about hockey is that when you play the game you go for as hard as you can for 45 seconds and when you're done you have to leave the ice and you have to turn it over to someone else to take care of that game and while you're sitting on the bench you have to rely on others and it's a it builds a community that relies on on each other it's not about you that's what our game is it's not about you it's about the group and it's a community and a group that you want to be part of and anyone that ever had a chance to play a game they get addicted really quickly and it's something that they want to do for the rest of the at least i do um but i just wanted to say thank you thank you so much for giving us some time here today there's going to be lots of people talking i'll get out of your way but this is something i'm very excited about and thank you so much for even giving us a chance to talk thanks thank you i don't know whose idea it was to put me after shane doane when i told my children i was speaking after shane dome they said why bother i hope you'll be a more merciful audience than they are good afternoon mayor woods members of the council my name is monica villalobos and i serve proudly as president and ceo of the arizona hispanic chamber of commerce of your arizona hispanic chamber of commerce for the last 75 years since we have generated business and protected and advocated for not only hispanic-owned businesses but minority-owned businesses and and small businesses as well we operate two federally funded centers funded by the u.s department of commerce both the arizona minority business development agency business center and the betsy serving the alaska native native hawaiian and alaska native communities in arizona nevada and utah with the two and a half million dollar budget we have generated uh in the last year 180 million dollars in impact and that's measured by the federal government you all like your metrics so that's in access to contracts access to financing and job creation i'm here today because this is somewhat of a job interview for the coyotes isn't it you want to know who they are what they stand for and what values they share i can tell you that when they heard when i heard they were first coming i didn't know anything about them in fact i cold called javier gutierrez and he answered the phone out of a cold call they have picked up the phone every single time that we have called when we needed to have the united states hispanic chamber of commerce convention here in arizona because we needed those resources we needed that expertise here in arizona they helped us do that they helped us lobby for that because they share our values when we needed a place for latino leaders to congregate they created the latino advisory council of which i'm a part of they gave us that space and all of the resources that we needed when we needed a place for small businesses to learn more about building wealth and being able to scale their businesses the arizona coyotes picked up the phone again and answered and gave us a place to do that you can read a lot about the morello group that that you've heard today they have 40 businesses across eight verticals including a banking construction media companies they have one of the largest minority business enterprise infrastructure companies in california they've done a lot of good in all of the communities that they've been in they've also focused heavily on education here in arizona providing resources with bilingual reading programs stem-based programs and pe curriculums providing free physicals for students so that they can participate in sports financing dental exams supporting vaccination and immunization distribution efforts so it goes far beyond just the game of hockey every coyote employee volunteers every single game money is collected for a local non-profit we also know that they've reached the lifetime giving of one million dollars to phoenix children's hospital all of their efforts to expand hockey indicate that they share family values that they participate and create a culture of inclusion they're champions of diversity alex morello is the first latino owner of an nhl team javier gutierrez is the first president they have the largest female front office in the nhl they have one of the most and they have the first diverse coaches internship program in the nhl we think so highly of them that we honored them last month as corporation of the year here in arizona an honor we have been bestowing on worthy groups and individuals and corporations for 63 years i know that the arizona coyotes will make a stellar corporate citizen and we want our state that we want in our state and they join a culture of can do in arizona we have several committed corporate and community partners involved in this project including the city of tempe and the city of phoenix i have a great deal of respect for all of you involved in this project because it adds to the economic impact by made by both cities and their various departments this is an amazing collaboration between two innovative and progressive cities and a private organization that is willing to contribute to be a corporate investor for the four million nine hundred and forty eight thousand two hundred and three residents of the phoenix metro area this endeavor as you've heard means sixty nine hundred jobs in tempe alone generating thirty billion dollars over 30 years this ladies and gentlemen is a best-in-class model this is an example of how the rest of the country can collaborate between public and private sectors and create even greater impact this should not be a zero-sum game i believe all of you have the collective power to move mountains i am confident in this process and in those involved that you will all make this happen in the safest possible way preserve all economic assets in the area and protect the existing minority businesses for the greater good of our cities and state thank you so much thank you mayor our apologies given the break we wanted to just know how much time we had left great with that we're gonna as they say do a little bit different in uh call power play here we are gonna invite three of our player or current players who had requested the opportunity to address you all so i'd invite clayton keller like schmaltz and christian fisher one only one of them will speak hello did everyone hear me um hi my name is clayton keller i'm a forward for the coyotes i'm joined by my two teammates christian fisher and nick smalls i was a first round draft pick in 2016 since then i've played six seasons for the coyotes been a two-time all-star as well i speak for myself my family my teammates when you know we say we love living here and being a part of this community i think you know speaking to other players around the league when they come here you know they they speak wonders about you know the restaurants uh the way of life and um you know the golf and everything to do in this this city and i think arizona's important to the nhl and we want to stay here so i hope you guys vote yes to start negotiations for this project thanks for your time thank you thank you mayor council members we again want to thank you incredible for this incredible opportunity um you've heard a lot there's been a lot of information there's been a lot of work but at the end of the day we seek a partnership with you all we seek to complement the vision that you all have had for tempe we thank you very much again we humbly and respectfully request the opportunity to move forward to negotiate with you all thank you very much that concludes our remarks sounds good thank you so much all right next up then we have item number three which is the presentation by sky harbor phoenix airport regarding blooper development llc proposal on city-owned property at priest drive and rio salado parkway the total presentation time here is limited to 60 minutes thank you uh mayor woods members of council i promise you we will try to cut that time in half i think we can get through this and easily in 30 minutes but thank you for the time allotment uh my name is chad makovsky i'm the director of aviation services thank you again good afternoon mayor woods members of the tempe city council and we really do appreciate you giving us this time to talk a little bit about sky harbor i know it's really an unusual situation for me to be here with you today weighing in on a development uh proposal that's within the city of tempe and it's considering your own property uh however it's the state's largest economic engine i believe and i hope that you'll agree that sky harbor airport is truly a community asset for everybody and we want to present information to ensure that you have a full picture of uh the value of the thriving international airport and what it brings to cities throughout the region including this city of tempe so with more than a 13 billion dollar annual payroll sky harbor airport is also home to more than 57 000 employees and hundreds of concessionaires contractors local businesses including many who live right here or base their businesses right here in the city of tempe sky harbor's a busy airport and on any given day we support more than 1 200 arrivals or departures for aircraft and more than 125 000 passengers sky harbor serves us all including our professional sports teams and many of their fans and uh truly we are a neutral in the sense that we also support their competitors in short we are one of the world's busiest airports and our priority is to continue to grow our route network and really connect our community to the world now it may come as a surprise to some in this room to learn that i'm not here today to oppose the arizona coyotes in fact i'm a hockey fan i grew up in north central wisconsin you might detect that from my accent and i went to college at a division one hockey school in minnesota northern minnesota and state cloud state university and i even have my own coyotes jersey at home i thought about wearing it today but then i thought i'd better dress up a little bit better for this council so uh and and frankly i did my mba and my graduate work right here at wp carey school business i'm proud to do that some may also be surprised to hear that i'm not here today to speak in opposition to the arena in fact sky harbor has never at any point stated its opposition to the arena uh from a land compatibility perspective sports event venues like the arena are viewed by the fa to be a compatible land use my job has always been and will continue to be to advocate for sky harbor airport and we work through these many issues as we try to find the best solutions including the issue that we're talking about today to support our stakeholders and most importantly the communities that we serve however there are elements of this tempest rfp that was issued in the subsequent proposal that if left unresolved could result in significant impacts to sky harbor's ability to continue to grow and support the community that we serve so tempe issued an rfp last july for a mixed-use entertainment district on the land noted in red on this graphic the land is 9 800 feet off of the end of sky harbor's primary departure runway at 9800 feet this parcel is actually closer to the airport than the runway is long that the planes use to take off it's also directly under the flight path quarter of the two of the busiest runways in this state of arizona approximately 1 600 residential units are being proposed on the west end of this development closest to sky harbor's runways now aviation is the safest form of transportation in the world and we intend to keep it that way and as you might imagine there are a number of things our industry will look at as we continue and to address potential development hazards some of the examples are right here on this slide at the request of our city council and our own aviation board we've attempted to work with the developer over the last several months and we had tried to address as many of these issues as we could uh based on the limited information that was available to us as of today the developer has agreed in concept to address most of the issues here and we're encouraged by that my hope and expectation is that today this council body will require the develop developer to follow through on those promises they've made to sky harbor and our stakeholders however there is one promise that the developer could not make and that was to remove the sixteen hundred plus residential units of high density high density in compatible residential uh from their proposal and in fact the developers inclusion of residential was required in order to be responsive to tempe's own rfp uh which called for residential to be a component of any proposal and that brings me to the legally binding promises that the city and of tempe and phoenix have made with each other and to give you a little bit of history on this nearly 30 years ago the city of tempe sued the federal aviation administration and the national environmental protection agency to stop the growth of phoenix sky harbor airport tempe stood to protect their residents they wanted to make sure that they weren't subject to the additional aircraft noise that would come from the development of our third and southern runway at sky harbor phoenix did intervene in that litigation and to fully and finally settle this litigation the two cities entered into a legally binding intergovernmental agreement while that agreement was likely executed well before most of us were in our current position certainly me and mine it's really been an essential document that's guided the successful relationship and compatible development of our two cities and sky harbor has enjoyed this over the last 28 years that agreement requires phoenix to do many things to reduce the effects of unwanted aircraft noise on tempe residents it's uh required phoenix to work with the faa and our airlines to modify our departure routes going to the east out of sky harbor as you can see on this slide and what they do is they converge as they go down the river bottom and file into a single file line as you see here the goal is to get those flight paths out of the way of residential current residential properties in tempe and get them over the river bottom as quickly as they possibly can now tempe and the developer are actually through this proposal proposing to place residential units in red on this graphic under the place where planes are actually designed to move to avoid noise for tempe residents as i mentioned phoenix willingly committed to several things under the intergovernmental agreement in order to support the continued growth of sky harbor in addition to the inefficient convergence of flight paths that i just mentioned to the east we also committed to working with the faa to balance flight activity to the east and west sides of our airport and what that does is it ensures that no one community will be disproportionately affected by aircraft noise we invested millions of dollars in noise monitoring equipment and we provide tempe with free access to all of this information in real time we've also supported tempe and your aviation commission by conducting analyses and responding to noise complaints from tempe residents in total since signing the intergovernmental agreement we've invested more than 330 million dollars in local and federal money in noise mitigation for existing residences in both tempe and phoenix and we continue to invest hundreds of thousands each year in ongoing noise and program management in return we asked tempe to commit to doing one thing in the settlement agreement in the intergovernmental agreement that was to participate in and comply with the 1999 part 150 noise compatibility program and to ensure that no incompatible development would be introduced into the rio salado corridor the excerpt here contained here below is comes directly from the 1994 iga and it states in part that tempe will implement land use management strategies contained in this noise compatibility program and it also ensures or asks that tempe will ensure new development undertaken in connection with the rio salado will be compatible with the program as part of the intergovernmental agreement tempe insisted that phoenix conduct a noise compatibility program study that i just referenced uh and that to be allowed to actively participate in it and phoenix willingly did so and to remove any doubt uh that this developer may not understand or has not accurately conveyed tempe's responsibilities under the plan i'd like to invite dave fitz he's the chief executive officer of kaufman and associates uh to provide a brief overview of this part 150 program he was the author of the document he was here when both cities came together to put the program together and he's the consultant of record for the 1999 program dave thank you mayor woods and city council for giving us the opportunity to come here and speak with you i won't take a whole lot of your time i but i do think it's important that i kind of go through this my background has been 30 years with kaufman so she's doing this very thing preparing noise compatibility program documents for airports across the country um i think it's important that that we hit on a couple of issues again um the department 50 process is uh is a very regulated document it's codified in the in title 14 of the code of federal regulations so it it has to meet certain specifications for let's see here i'm going to do this so to make sure that it um complies with all the federal regulations and i think the the the most important part about this is the the overall goal and intent of a study is to reduce the impact of aircraft noise over the surrounding community for a part 150 to be effective it must have a balance and so to have a balance there are measures that fa requires us to look at and see if they're viable for each airport they fall into four categories noise abatement noise mitigation land use planning measures and program management measures so basically you have four legs on a stool and so for a program to stay viable it must be balanced so that's an important part that that you'll find through my presentation as we go through this so as you can see there's 32 measures here um all 32 were approved by the federal aviation administration for the purposes of part 150.

so what do i mean by that for the purposes of part 150 so fa doesn't just let us you know throw out any measure we have to prove that it's effective and so for example for noise abatement measures the the threshold for an approved noise abatement measure is to reduce the number of people or noise sensitive land uses within the 65 dnl noise exposure contour many of you if you've been around a while are very familiar with that terminology so in order to do that we have to test even though the 4dme procedure existed we had to test it to make sure that it was a viable noise abatement procedure so how we tested that is we we modeled it without that 4dme procedure and what we found is is the 4dme procedure was very effective it reduced the population impacts inside the 65 by 29 336 people 39 people excuse me so again for the purposes of part 150 fa was supportive of that even though it's not the most efficient way for an airport to operate to funnel all the aircraft down one corridor so as you can see in demonstrating how that how that procedure works is all of those runways are through their flight management systems or pilot technique are turning after departure to try and fly over the salt river corridor unfortunately the ted or the tempe entertainment district falls right at the intersection of the two southern runways and how they converge to get to the salt river corridor so in order to protect and again remember we're talking about balance we have to protect that corridor and make sure it stays viable so if we throw a bunch of residential in there it's not going to mean be viable and so what we found is there are several areas that were already compatible and we wanted those to be maintained so we had land use measures that maintained the viability some of those were general plan amendments and some of them were rezoning they were already developed to something compatible zone it so it stays compatible so if it redevelops it stays as a compatible use same with general plan a lot of that area was planned for a compatible use we wanted it to stay that way so over the long term that was that was the goal and a lot of that obviously had happened now this particular proposal is looking at putting almost 35 to 4 000 residents right in the middle of that quarter so in the previous in some of the previous presentations from the developer they're misusing one of the tables table 6c to justify that residential is okay to be put here again that that table which really recommended an overlay zoning district that overlay zoning district the intent of it um was really for established existing residential areas that had vacant lots um you didn't want to abandon those because if we had an area what we called the noise contour planning boundary which basically squared off the noise exposure contours to make it a little easier to implement in both the the the different jurisdictions phoenix and tempe so the intent of that was in existing residential areas to allow homes to go back in in those areas it was not to justify brand new residential of any kind it was never the intent so in essence what that's doing is it's reducing the effectiveness of that noise abatement corridor so and again it's also that that quarter is part of the the intergovernmental agreement and if anything this residential is in the absolute worst possible place again we're converging two heavily traveled airways on departure from from the airport there is no solution there there's no solution we have no no options there now there are a few other things to consider um one of those obviously is to reiterate the goal of the part 150 study is to reduce that impact of aircraft noise around the community this development would would reverse potentially the value of the four dme procedure again if you remember the benefit was about almost three thousand people if you put three thousand or four thousand people right in the way turning it again based on fa's criteria if all of those residents are inside the 65 that 4dme procedure is no longer a noise abatement procedure so just to be clear other things that we wanted you to be aware of is obviously you know the the valley of the sun summertime temperatures um really have a significant impact on aircraft performance um so the hotter it is the the it affects the air density and decline performance of aircraft which essence means that they're going to be hitting the thrust that much harder to maintain that climb gradient or on approach to reduce sync rates i.e coming down too fast so that thrust in those in that area again right at the intersection of those two departure paths you're going to be hearing a lot of noise especially in those those summertime temperatures so that will be an issue that we wanted you to be aware of obviously the summer around here um almost half of the days are above 95.

about 47 percent so those high temperatures really will influence that other things that we wanted to make you aware of is sound insulation will not resolve these issues they will not resolve these issues sound insulation is used to mitigate areas that already are impacted and it's kind of a last resort faa has been very clear on this going forward they will not support any type of residential inside the 65 at any level single multi high-rise it is a no-go for faa sound insulation will also not help you in outdoor situations you're talking about aircraft they're going to come over just about every minute either on arrival or departure so it will not help you and sound insulation will do nothing for you for vibration again and those aircraft engines are hitting that high thrust to make up for those high temperatures you're going to feel it and sound insulation will not resolve those issues for you that thank you dave uh and so you uh probably are wondering what the high impact noise area is as defined by the fva and in our industry as dave mentioned we call it a 65 dnl contour it's a scientific metric that the faa produces working with airports to identify high noise criteria for areas around the airport the impact of of the operation of the airport the graphic here was generated by the developer and it's been used at a number of our aviation board meetings was used in a response to the federal aviation administration's letters to the city of tempe in this graphic it appears to me demonstrates that what what the developer is trying to do is convince tempe and the general public that residential development within high noise contours happens all the time and that tempe approves this all the time and really why should this project be treated any differently well i've become a number aware of numerous examples kind of what i call well what about you know what about this development that's right across the road or what about this development that's just further down the road why is that different than this is different and the developer has identified thousands of units as you can see on this graphic that are contained within with what they're referring to as the high noise contour of the 65 dnl contour the difference is is this contour here was developed in 1999 and it was based on the operation of the airport at 1999.

and if this were true the city of tempe would have repeatedly violated their own agreement the intergovernmental agreement and the city of phoenix would have held them accountable held you all accountable for violating the agreement this is the reality and so over time as you can probably appreciate technology has improved engine performance has improved they become more fuel efficient they become quieter and that's great for the communities that we serve and so this contour this shaded in green really reflects the fact that since the late 1990s our contours at sky harbor airport have shrunk significantly and so tempe has not historically been in violation of the intergovernmental agreement phoenix did not need to object in any way to the developments that have gone on outside of the current 65 dnl contour and airport management has not been notified by tempe staff as they're required to do of any recent developments being proposed in the 65 dnl contours we're appreciative of the work that the city of tempe is doing there by any measure the proposed incompatible development that you're seeing here is much closer to the airport than any other project that's been done and this one project alone would increase the number of residents impacted by noise by more than 143 percent it's important also to note that the city of tempe and its own rfp said that all proposers should reach out to the airport to obtain the most current noise contours for their own evaluation and that's what you're seeing here in green so a high ranking official with the federal aviation administration sent a letter to tempe on april 1st to raise its serious concerns about the proposal and noted that the proposal is incompatible uh with the residential units being included and would actually increase the national population of impact those impacted by high noise around airports by one percent which we found to be quite remarkable the faa regional administrator went on to clearly tell tempe that any residential development in this area would be viewed as an incompatible use and after receiving a rebuttal letter from the developer just yesterday the fa sent a supplemental letter to tempe to reiterate its position and so the faa made a few things abundantly clear in the letter that they issued yesterday first the fa does not support residential development within the 65 dnl contours and residential is deemed as an incompatible land use second the faa's approval for sound insulation is limited to existing non-compatible developments and is not intended for new developments and third the faa acknowledged that this is a local jurisdictional issue and so they said tempe has the jurisdiction and the authority to address these issues and the faa is strongly encouraging tempe to do so by allowing only incompatible uses within this high noise contour and so to expand on this a little more i'd like to invite dan elwell with elwell and associates to say a few words not only is mr elwell a retired airline and military pilot with thousands of hours of flight experience but he was also a career public servant including serving time in the top executive role as administrator for the federal aviation administration mr elbow thanks chad and thank you mayor woods and council for letting me come and speak to you today i thought just for context to start i'll give a little bit background on myself and my experience i don't have near the ties to this area that all the other speakers have had but my aviation career started here and i'm going to date myself i i went through pilot training when williams gateway was willie air force base so that's where i went to pilot training and learned basically how to fly after my air force time i went to the airlines and went to american airlines and american airlines has a pretty heavy presence here even then when i was flying and flew with them for about 16 years and flew in and out of phoenix quite a bit so i'm very familiar with the airspace with the airport but my career also kind of took me in different ways and different paths and i ended up serving two stints with the faa the first time my job was assistant administrator for policy planning and environment so my offices were responsible for the noise mitigation issues many of which are hearing today one of the data points that we were proudest of is that from the 70s the late 70s till today many of the engine stage noise stage improvements that faa promulgated and many of the manufacturers advances on airframe design and engine design as well as faa designing approach and departure corridors as you've seen shown going up for instance the salt salt river uh managed since the 70s from the 70s to today to reduce the number of people in the united states who are exposed to significant noise which is defined as 65 dnl by over 90 percent so when i heard that and and that's that's a lot of people nationwide so when i heard that um that this proposal would actually add one percent um to the numbers that uh that that the industry and faa has worked to bring down for so long uh i was it was quite um significant i've never heard of a single um development doing that to noise so keep that in mind um i do want to talk and focus on noise um in two areas operationally and i'll just touch on that because you're going to hear from i believe you're going to hear from at least one pilot from the airline pilots association at some point but to just build a little bit on what dave said in this area on a hot day to get an airplane up and flying in this um a very very thin hot air uh it takes longer runway and it takes more power and then you've got the uh noise mitigation turn especially from from the south runway you're banking when you're banking and climbing in very hot air you're using a lot more power so to the point about mitigation noise mitigation the requirement is to come down 25 decibels when you when you doom it excuse me when you do mitigation of course that's for residences already in a 65 dnl contour not not new and i will tell you 65 is the minimum the noise for those residences right on the on right off the runway is going to be really really loud and at times significantly above 65.

so the mitigation is not going to seem like a mitigation to folks uh in those residences i can i can assure you that and the faa's letter defining what they consider mitigation that that makes uh from non-compatible to compatible i've heard it said that the mitigation that is planned for these residences would make those residents compatible that that were not and that's simply not true the faa maintains and that they will be non-compatible whether you do noise mitigation efforts or not and the reason faa does that is because they do not support and they do not encourage putting new residences inside the 65 dnl so i just think it's important for your deliberations to realize that the noise issue is absolutely um the biggest issue going forward in this in this development thank you for your time thank you dan i want to assure you that sky harbor and the faa aren't the only interested stakeholders in this discussion and several associations represented by our industries that represent our industry airlines that provide essential air service to our communities issued a joint letter of concern as you can see here these concerned kerns have also been echoed by the airline pilots association as mr elwell had identified which is a union representing the pilots at most of our airlines major most of the major airlines around the country and the national air traffic controllers association the union representing all of the air traffic controllers around the nation issued a letter sharing their unique concerns regarding the development as well and i believe representatives from all of these groups are represented in the audience or virtually today and they have registered to speak so you'll hear from them later so i'd like to close by asserting our primary concern today is not about the arena it's not about the coyotes it's about the residential component to this proposal the developers promised sky harbor and our industry stakeholders that with the exception of residential they will address our concerns i'm asking you today to hold them accountable to their commitment however the residential component of tempe's rfp and the developers proposal is in our eyes a clear violation of the intergovernmental agreement and the long-standing promises that our cities have made with each other some 30 years ago our experts and authorities on the matter including mr fitz mr elwell and the faa themselves have made it clear that techniques such as sound insulation will not solve the problem and will only make the land use incompatible so it's become clear to me that the developer may tell you what they think you need to hear to move this project forward at any cost and it's a really cool project i have to say i was really impressed by the videos when i saw it however the facts is we've laid them out tell a little bit of a different story about the important relationship that exists between our two cities and uh we as your neighbor uh are have worked in cooperation with you for decades and we're invested in our mutual success going forward and so today we're not asking you to abandon this proposal only to honor the intergovernmental agreement that our two cities have entered into and provide us with your assurance today that you will remove the residential component from this rfp we also ask that you ensure the developer adheres to their other comments uh to the in commitments to sky harbor and our industry however and i sincerely hope it doesn't come to this but if you act today and approve the rfp proposal that includes incompatible residential as it currently is being proposed uh phoenix is obligated as is tempe to enforce the intergovernmental agreement and we'll have no choice but to review the remedies available to us in this agreement it's really not fair and will not be the case that tempe should be allowed to ignore your responsibilities to the agreement and only expect that phoenix would be required to continue to live up to our responsibilities the future of the iga is at risk and we simply can no longer kick this can down the road so for decades phoenix and sky harbor has lived up to our commitments and what uh we'd like to see is tempe take action today to demonstrate your commitment to do the same thank you we'll yield our time thank you appreciate it all right next up here is item number four bluebird development llc response to phoenix sky harbor presentation mr wood mayor and members of the council nick wood funny thing about threats threats sound kind of silly in the daylight um i grew up in milwaukee and i went to university of wisconsin and the badgers kicked the golden gopher's tail quite often actually um i reached out to mr mccuskey back in september of 2021 almost 10 months ago and i told him we'd like to meet with him we want our faa experts to meet with him we want our noise experts to meet with their experts and we met we met 11 times our technological people got together six times and we met individually we met with the phoenix aviation advisory board and as mr mccuskey said they raised a number of concerns and we agreed to all but one of them for example things such as prohibiting activities that would constitute a safety hazard for air navigation like fireworks and lasers as one of the questions another was building heights we started out with 140 foot tall buildings as we you know put in our proposal however in looking at in our technical people meeting with theirs looking at what our building heights would be and what the cranes would be we've decided to lower our building heights lower our crane heights we don't have any issues with cranes we don't have any issues with building heights we're all in total compliance uh with the rules and the regulations um uh navigation easements right and you do this all the time whenever you do anything within an airport influence area you do a navigation easement it's there tenant disclosures right anyone who's a tenant residential non-residential they get a disclosure um that they're in the influence area and and a full disclosure of where they're located vis-a-vis the airport um restriction aren't even hosting events they didn't want us to have the president of the united states come because they'd have to shut down that that runway and we said okay we're happy to do that as well drone usage they don't want us to have any drones and of course drones are pretty modern activities these days we agreed not to do that we agreed to provide them copies of all of our submittals to the city tempe with respect to general plan amendments zoning amendments all the things that will have to be done you know site plan amendments you name it potential wildlife hazards if we're awarded the rfp we committed to engage in a qualified biologist to take a look and make sure that we're not creating any potential hazards for the airport engineering working sessions we've agreed to have our aviation consultants meet with them and we did and they'll continue to meet going forward a couple things you know we we can't do of course we're not going to get rid of the residential and i'm going to explain why and the other thing is they wanted us to file 7460 uh applications with the faa well you can't do that unless you have a building footprint and you know exactly the the coordinates of your building longitude latitude those are done during the zoning case when you actually have a site plan so it's pretty mature for that and and they're technical people acknowledge that so i want to go through and talk about some things and and i i take issue with someone telling and telling you that i'm telling stories you've all known me a long time um maybe longer than you want to admit i've never ever ever come before you and told you anything that wasn't true where i haven't done my due diligence that i haven't spoken to the experts the professionals those who are smarter than me to come in and tell you what's what and that's we've done here we hired faa experts one guy was at the faa for 35 years okay our guy wasn't appointed by the trump administration and we basically have good people and i went through everything with them we have our own airport expert faa expert within our firm so we've done all of our due diligence we've looked at exactly what i'm going to show you and what i showed you we didn't create any of this what i'm going to show you is basically things that are found either on sky harbor's website or on your website right or on the maricopa county assessor's website that's all things that i think you'll find of interest number one your proposal said that we have to obtain all agency approvals involving the faa especially because the faa as you know has no jurisdiction outside of the boundary of sky harbor airport and but what they do is they look at our 7160 applications to determine whether the building and or the cranes will be a hazard to navigation of course as i told you we've fixed all of that by lowering our building heights and moving them down from 120 on one end down to actually 56 on the other so they're pretty low second lot is being discussed about the iga i want to point something out this is the language regarding land use that you've now been threatened several times right by the city of of tempe i mean the city of phoenix and it's sarsa was saying tempe and phoenix agree to take all actions necessary consistent with applicable laws and regulations to implement the land use management strategies recommended in the far part 150 noise compatibility plan program i want to point out that phoenix agreed to abide by all of these things as well and recommended types of strategies not mandated then in yellow it says tempe consistent with applicable laws and regulations will take such measures as are necessary to ensure that new development which we are undertaken in connection with the rio salado project or noise sensitive environs within its jurisdiction will be compatible with the noise levels predicted in the far part 150 noise compatibility planner program um i've got to show you two things again i didn't create these one i took out of the left one we took out of the sky harbors website and the one on the right is actually out of the code of federal regulations on the left it says the faa guidelines outside outline exhibit 3a show that residential development including standard construction right without special acoustical treatment mobile homes etc are incompatible so when they say that residential is incompatible to begin with first step yeah it is we've never ever argued that fact however it does say that it can be compatible underlined where local communities which is you as counsel for tempe have determined that these uses are permissible however sound insulation measures are recommended now i disagree with the recommendation i think they're mandated but then you look at the court of federal regulations where the community determines that residential or school uses either or must be allowed measures to achieve outdoor to indoor noise reduction of at least 25 decibel levels and 30 decibel levels should be incorporated into building codes and be considered an individual approvals normal residential construction again this is all new stuff can be expected to provide an nlr of 20 decibel levels thus the reduction requirements are often stated at 5 10 or 15 decibel levels over standard construction again this is out of the code of federal regulations this we took off the city's website and talks about the sky harbor 1999 part 150 noise compatibility and i'm going to talk about their noise contours here in a minute but in this table again we didn't generate this this is generated by the sky harbor airport it lists the uses in the column basically right i guess this doesn't work anyway so in that column says starts with residential right other than land use names and you see highlight in yellow apartments walk up or apartments elevator and then below that transient lodgings hotels and hotels and then when it says noise zones and levels in the dnl the second column from the left says and hyphen 1 65 to 70.

and there's all yeses there where it says apartments it says yes and then it has footnote 1 footnote 5 footnote 7. then under apartments with elevators again it says yes for y footnote 1 footnote 5 footnote 7. and then for transient lounges it says y foot note 1 foot note 5.

those footnotes are in the column and right number one if you're going to have within the 65 to 70 decibel level noise contour and you have apartments walk up or elevator or you're going to have transient hotels or motels you have to have noise attenuation insulation in a navigation easement with the city of phoenix they said with the city of phoenix off of their website all residences in the n1 and n2 zones are marginally noise compatible this is their wedding not mine as a condition of issuance of a building permit the builder of the dwelling shall sound proof to achieve a 25 decibel level reduction from outdoor noise levels kind of like out of the cfr i just showed you in the n1 zone and 30 decibel levels if you're in n2 n2 is a 70 to 75.

all such soundproof residential units should be provided with heating cooling and ventilation systems capable of permitting closed windows and doors year-round and navigation easement for noise also shall be provided to the city phoenix 5 foot note 5 noise easement and non-suit covenant a noise easement and a non-suit covenant should be provided to the city of phoenix for all new residential development in all specified noise sensitive areas in other words right we're going to give him an easement and we're going to agree not to sue we're not going to sue we're not going to let anybody who owns property there who resides there no one covenant not to sue over noise number seven fair disclosure agreement and covenant a fair disclosure agreement and covenant shall be recorded as a condition of development approval for all permitted uses we agreed to do all of those noise contours the faa approved noise contour is found right here again this is taken off and this was actually in the presentation that the airport has been giving everybody and if you look on the right side it says date to faa determine nems to be prepared in compliance with part 150 that's the noise contours and it tells you first and this is again off of the the website at faa approved sky harbor international airport noise information page map pdf 1999.

you click on it all right it brings up the stuff i just showed you but it brings up two maps one's 1999 and one is 2004.

the reason for that is when you do a noise contour map and again i'm not making this up i'm getting this from the professionals you do noise contouring maps you do two things number one a contoured map that's going to be effective now right and number two a contour map that kind of has a a estimate of what's going to happen at least five years down the road so there's two maps when you click on this site and again it says faa government so this is faa site you click on it then two maps come up and i'm going to show you those two maps right now so i can make this work this is one of them okay 1999 map this is the only map that the faa has approved for noise contours since 1999.

in fact off of your website you have a thing called phoenix tempe aviation history it's 12 pages it's on your website you can find it pretty easy and it talks about beginning in 1935 when phoenix purchased sky harbor and it goes through year after year after year all the times that you got in litigation with them and and they did all the things they wanted to do and the cardinals stadium and all the other things that happened but they're supposed to provide the faa with new maps basically every 10 years for approval so in 2014 right they submitted one i'm going to read from your city tempe's notes the city of phoenix submitted this 2014.

city of phoenix submitted to the final noise exposure map updated for the phoenix city harbor sorry phoenix sky harbor international airport to the faa for review and acceptance on june 27 2014 the maps included a 2013 base year exposure map and a noise exposure forecast for 2018.

now that was created by guess who um uh the um airport so the maps included a 2013 base year exposure map and the noise exposure forecast for 2018 quote the maps were not approved i'm reading from your calendar the faa had the above mentioned rnav procedures changes scheduled for publication etc etc so bottom line is there's not been a subsequent map since 1999 approved so we used the 1999 map and the 2000 and the 2004 map now here right we show you all of the projects that have been approved and built in the city of tempe up up and down the lake and um i've been in some of them and you also see some surprisingly in the city of phoenix and some of them were built back in the early 2000s as well but i'm going to get to that so there's about 3 600 in in tempe and there's others i mean you just approved last tuesday right a multi-family housing project a block away from us within the down noise contour where were they for that one right i mean and that one you just approved it so here are the noise contour maps and guess what side of the airport these are from these are the two the 1999 and 2004 maps right on the city of phoenix side now one of the things i want to show you before i get there is this map this map shows that the distance from the northern runway okay runway 8 to 7th street okay which is the edge of the warehouse district which i'm going to talk about is 10 500 feet our arena okay you saw the map that chad put up and it said that it's basically 9 800 feet from the end of runway 7 left to our boundary but our arena is about exactly 10 500 feet away and we're at 200 feet and we lowered 120 feet we lowered it because they didn't want 140 feet there wow so height maps this is the city phoenix zoning ordinance this basically says all the things you see here now the map on the left is a 1999 contour lap which was approved by the faa the 2004's projected noise contours right in their projections look at these heights 185 feet you can build as a matter of right in the city of phoenix right on 7th street 10 500 feet away from the end of that runway right next to that you can go up to 140 feet behind that you can do 140 feet you can do 80 feet right next to it 56 feet and even in the 2004 right you can still do those heights right off the end of their runway i don't see them coming to phoenix city council saying yeah you know what you need to change your zoning maps these zoning maps were adopted in 2010 and they were adopted yesterday or last week 2010 when the 1999 and 2004 approval maps were still in business next guess what kind of uses you can do in the warehouse district everything you see here is residential everything and the stuff that's kind of in that um copper color it's unlimited residential so basically if you do 50 dwelling units per acre the city of phoenix could have in this little area about seven to eight thousand units and that's a fifty dwelling units per acre and we're at like 38 on a pretty big piece of property but again they can do as a matter of right now how does the airport come in here and tell you that you can't do brand new residential in the noise contours they show you a map that they've made up but it's not an faa map so these noise contours still apply and they keep telling you no but you know what i'm the wrong guy for them to talk about this with here's an application i did in 2016 in the warehouse district in i'm using the 2014 on 2004 noise contours november 3rd planning commission city and and uh city council was right after that you can see where the representative is me nick wood snow warmer and this is right there and just below the warehouse district so i had to rezone it here's what staff said the site is located in a flight path for the phoenix sky harbor international airport this is 2016 which is approximately two miles to the east interior noise levels will be controlled this is for an apartment building actually it's condos right take it back it's condom building interiors always be controlled by a combination of building code requirements such as dual pane windows roof overhangs to limit direct noise onto wood surf and window surfaces and the use of additional roof insulation the aviation department has reviewed the rezoning application and request the following one the property owner grant and record navigation easement b provide documentation at form 7460.1 has been filed for the development and has received no hazard determination see in order to disclose the existence and operational characteristics of phoenix sky harbor to future owners and tenants of the property that a notice of prospective purchases or proximity to the airport is recorded now if their map that they just showed you has been in control all these years this would not have happened it happened because the faa map from 1999 with the with the projections for 2004 are the ones that are in force and and the airport recognized that otherwise this wouldn't be in there because you look at their map none of this is in their contours but just a few years ago they did that now i find this letter interesting okay you received this threatening letter just last week and you heard and you saw right all of these the pilots association and the air traffic controllers association and all the airlines and they've been making the rounds okay asking everybody to just pipe in saying incompatible incompatible incompatible we can't have this because it's going to destroy the airport it's going to interfere with our ability to function and operate and we are the greatest economic engine since sliced bread what's interesting about that is number two they start off at the top saying we see the following three options number one you remove all residential number two the city's agreed to sunset the iga if tempe wants to be relieved of the prior commitments that would prevent it from placing residential units as part of the rfp the parties to the iga could simply agree to end the iga then it says phoenix is willing to sunset the iga in the event that tempe insists on going forward with the rfp in his present form how is it that all of a sudden residential is okay if you just agree to get rid of the iga you just heard how desperate they are how many times have they met with you we've been under a transparency clause i haven't been able to talk to any of you since last september okay i've heard anecdotally that you've been visited by these folks and city council members in city phoenix and all kinds of other people's multiple times okay multiple times telling you the same story i have not had that opportunity today was the first time we had an opportunity to talk to you at all and they bullied you into giving you in 30 minutes after they've met with you all these times and then they tell you we really don't care about the residential because if you just agree to get rid of the iga so you know me i'm thinking what the hell is going on i figured it out this is from your website okay it's on the bottom tempe government's sustainable tempe aircraft noise those mitigation reports there was an agreement as part of the intergovernmental agreement that there's a red gate system for all planes to fly and they're supposed to fly through that red gate as you can see where the star is that's where the property we'd like to acquire from you is located not quite underneath all those airline things like you saw in their picture it's kind of off to the side the planes are supposed to go through that right so supposed to go a little bit farther to the left or upper right and you can see on the right side how they're not quite making it through that corridor and then the second one is they're supposed to get through a gate they're making it to the gate of course the gate is at the other side of tempe town lake i mean look where the where tempe town lake is so basically they're not following the rules that they agreed to comply with so is that why they want to get rid of the iga um i don't think so and the reason is the faa controls where they're supposed to go anyway right ask the people in phoenix who had to sue sky harbor airport and sue faa because they allowed all these planes to go over their historic neighborhoods and all the people in your community who complain anywhere north of apache right they're not on the water they still complain about the noise and then i figured it out during our discussions with their technical people one of the technical people made a mistake they gave us a copy of some engineering plans that they created these plans show an extension of that 7l runway extending it closer to the city of tempe do you know what that does you think you've got people north of apache that are unhappy now you start moving you start expanding this this runway and you move it toward tempe bigger planes will fly off of it especially during hot times of the year and basically they're just going to use that airport and they're going to put everything closer and of course that of course will change the noise time contours significantly as well because now they're using bigger engines bigger planes heavier ones this is why they want your the iga to go away they don't care about the residential they just told you right here in this letter right where number three they threaten you again by the way but number two they say hey all the stuff about the you know the pilots association and the air traffic controllers everybody else they all hate this we can't have residential and then in the next breath they go okay you can have the residential just get rid of the iga they want the idea gone because they want to extend that runway that's what they haven't been telling you and i would bet any money that they haven't when they met with you they haven't told anyone of you that they plan to extend that runway and that's what this is about so with that i'm going to close thank you thank you very much next up item five call to the audience so to manage the high number of public comments anyone who would like to speak was assigned a number i'll be calling our speakers by number and i'll try to call like a range to make sure that folks can get set up to uh come right up to the podium if you're in the overflow room right now please listen for the speaker number ahead of you when your number is about five away please make your way to the council chambers if you would like to speak and do not yet have a number please sign in at the check-in table to receive your number i'll once again reiterate that the city council now welcomes public comment at this time for the council action item on the special counsel meeting agenda speakers will be taken in first come first serve in the order in which the speaker cards were received no person shall speak more than once and there is a limit of three minutes per speaker following all the in-person and virtual speakers the comments submitted on the electronic comment cards will be read out loud and become part of the public record with that said first but i'm gonna call uh numbers one through five uh we have a little issue here where i've got two people at number four uh so which is very interesting actually uh but i'm gonna call numbers one through five and see if those folks can begin to come forward uh person number one on my list is matthew salinger oh god uh sounded uh please state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council thank you um my name is matthew salinger i live at 1614 e cedar street in hudson manor tempe i really appreciate the presentations that everybody gave there are a lot of compelling things to think about um i don't envy your job on this boat but i do have um some uh feelings and and thoughts about this proposal and you know i as much as i respect the people for spending all the time to put together the proposal i'm not for the continuation of negotiation um i think that the putting a hockey arena along the river is not the right kind of use for the city or the best use for something that is right against the river the rest of the development that they're planning is potentially has some more value to it because it may have more 24-hour use but i'm concerned that the retail that they're planning there is actually going to either pull um too much energy and spending energy away from downtown tempe thereby harming mill avenue or it's not going to it's not going to work and so the retail will be empty um and and not occupied and either way it's not a good thing for tempe um but my biggest concern is actually with the traffic that it would create um if any of you have ever gone to any sporting event or major concert in glendale you know what a nightmare it is trying to get in and out of glendale it took me two and a half hours to get door-to-door from my house to the cardinal stadium it's a terrible experience to go through that the problem with glendale is that they have a limited amount of ingress and egress to get to these events and tempe does too and this particular location is incredibly limited um the the amount of crazy traffic that it's going to create for hours before and after any event that happens there is going to be crippling um for for our urban core i am not for that at all um so those are my you know some of my examples i won't go on um in terms of my worries about you know no matter whether they have a will not leave contract with the city that you know if things get really bad they're going to leave um and i just don't i don't think that it's something that's going to be here for for a very long time or be beneficial um and and i'm just concerned it's going to draw uh or damage tempe in a variety of ways through traffic or some kind of economic kind of issue so thank you for your time thank you mr salinger speaker number two is neil giuliano please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council mayor giuliano thank you mayor and council it's good to be here i like what you've done the place with the place uh it looks really nice look uh neil giuliano 21 east 13th street tempe 48-year resident 26 of it in 85282 and 22 of it in 85281 for the threshold to the threshold question that you have today on whether to advance or not i think it's an absolutely yes you have before you a very compelling project that i do believe not to overuse the word but then can be transformative to a land site within the tempe that we've quite honestly been talking about for 30 plus years of what to do with that whole yard that's over there so yes you should advance this conversation this destruction i would encourage you as best as possible to avoid all the distractions that are going to come your way leave the details and the legal issues to the the detail and the legal team and stay focused on what your purpose is the purpose here is to find a partner for a project to help tempe reach its greatest aspirational potential and i think if you look at the project it's pretty incredible all the data that you heard all the information that you heard the number of jobs all of that uh quite honestly you're not gonna you're not gonna find another project uh that's gonna come forward with that kind of capacity to impact the future economic uh economic well-being of the city of tempe and have the kind of impact that it could be will there be issues you're going to have to mitigate of course i love congratulations to the entire team the renderings are amazing when i sat where you sat for 14 years i don't think there was ever at the beginning of the project of the rendering and what actually happened when it was actually done there's always changers whether it's a different font or a different color or whatever it may be a different footprint whatever it may be there's going to be some changes along the way that's what your next phase is for that's what your next phase of conversation is for with with the project uh people in in general with regard to the partnership having been around a long time i will tell you there are very few if any private sector partners that are going to come forward and put forth the opportunity that you have in this partnership they just don't exist number one there aren't that many with that kind of capacity and number two there aren't that many with that kind of capacity in arizona and number three one and two that want to be partners with the city of tempe i think it's a tremendous opportunity for you and then when you look at the potential you're going to hear about density you already heard about traffic look the reality is the density that's proposed and talked about is very consistent with the vision that we talked about many many years ago i can remember being at the uh the beginning of the construction of tempe town lake in 1997 and i recited t.e lawrence all people dream but those who dream at night dream with in the dusty recesses of their mind but the dreamers of the day awake to accomplish their dreams you have dreamers of the day partners and i hope the council remains dreamers of the day for the future of the community so i encourage you to advance the conversation and take it to the next level thank you thank you mayor giuliano next up uh number three is robin reed please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you mayor thank you city council for this opportunity uh my name is robin reed i'm the president and ceo of the black chamber of arizona our offices are in phoenix at 2390 east camelback i live at 4149 east mali lane in cave creek we've heard a lot today about the economic and the environmental benefits of working with the coyotes on this project but i want to talk to you a little bit about the partnership and why that's going to be of value to the city of tempe i have had the privilege for the last two and a half years as a co-founder of the community collaborative 36 community organizations throughout the state that are in lockstep as it relates to improving diversity equity inclusion and access for minority-owned businesses within our community the phoenix coyotes or the arizona coyotes have been truly leaders in that realm whether it is their their commitment to youth sports and creating greater participation among minority youth in hockey and i'm i'm i will tell you that as a kid my first organized team sport was actually ice hockey um so i understand the values that you can get from that uh when i add to that um the work they've done if anyone has seen the espn plus documentary that talks about their minority coach internship program to bring greater diversity to the coaching in the nhl i don't take these things at face value our job is to kind of go and vet these things i followed up i want to see what happened after the documentary well here's the real news one of the individuals that was featured in the documentary is currently in their interview process with the usa or team usa for ice hockey the other individual guess what he's in discussions with the coyotes because the bottom line is they're eating their own cooking they're making sure that they are not only highlighting these opportunities but they're sharing them i have met with and spoken with nearly every mayor from glendale to mesa on this big topic we take a great deal of pride in telling the nation if not the world that we are the fastest growing metro area in the country and i think that's great but that's not enough what our obligation is is to do something with that designation i think that we have a unique opportunity to become the blueprint for how you grow it grow a metro area quickly we've seen explosive growth home building everything but we have an opportunity to be the blueprint for how you do it the right way obviously dei is important as monaco villa lobo shared the coyotes have already invested in community making sure that there was free health screenings for youth sports that's an investment investing in phoenix children's hospital that's the kind of partner the city of tempe wants to have you want somebody who's already in alignment with your right to breathe plan so i really implore you let's keep the discussion going i really encourage the city of tempe to move forward with negotiations with the arizona coyotes thank you thank you mr reed next up we have glenn williamson please uh state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council and i believe mr williamson is virtual this evening that is correct can you hear me yes sir superb thank you very much my name is glenn williamson i'm a phoenix arizona resident and i am right now currently in quebec up on the gaspe z and very close to home of a lot of hockey i would like to add a couple of points to what has been said in support of mr morello and mr gutierrez's very eloquent opening discussions and make a point about the canadian dynamics i have been around and watched the team grow from the very beginning and i would like to point out that from a canadian point we have over 500 canadian companies employing tens of thousands of people in phoenix and we also have approximately a million canadian visitors spending about a billion dollars and that does not include an additional 1.5 billion dollars that is spent by snowbirds the reason i bring these numbers up is it does not get any better than canadians and hockey many people think it's coming down to play golf but canadians come down on mass to play hockey canadian companies employing tens of thousands of people promote hockey hockey is part of the dna of all canadians and you can take a look at companies that are operating in arizona of canadian origin like all the circle k's the bombaldzies collier cgi cae and one of the most important things that many of them see do and feel when they come into arizona with either their investment which by the way canada right up until tsmc has been the largest foreign direct investor in the state of arizona for decades by a very large number so we are very very encouraged to see mr morello and mr gutierrez trying to pursue putting hockey in the right state in the right page on the right way of doing this and we as the canada arizona business council that represent these 500 canadian companies that work with sky harbor by the way to make sure that we have some 200 non-stop direct flights between canada and arizona as well as at scottsdale the largest foreign flights coming into scottsdale airport are canadian as well as coming into mesa gateway so we would like to make sure that our support for what is trying to be done here is put on their record thank you very much thank you mr williamson so i'd also like to quickly note if speakers 6 through 10 can also begin to make their way down here as well that would be great 6 through 10.

next up here my next speaker is advar fight please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have up to three minutes to address the city council mayor council i was the aviation coordinator for the city of tempe starting in 2000 in 2000 the airport opened the third runway for operations it became a huge surprise at least to me and to at least some of the airport staff at the time that the air that the faa found three runways could be utilized quite efficiently compared to what was in the original master plan and the projected environmental impact statement of runway use how much percentage of operations were going to go from the different runways and also the new runway this uh history basically imp implemented through through mitigation procedures and to through that land use uh paragraph in the the uh in the agreement was basically to keep uh aircrafts over the town lake tempe when the uh the city of phoenix had uh originally in 1992 uh noise community plan what tempe demanded in there in that context was that they updated the plan based on their own projections so the key point here is that any flight plans they put into a model and develop to create noise contours is a forecast it's basically it's more or less advanced guess work as to how the flight and noise control will develop as operations change so tempe felt that these new regimes of air at faa pushing all the departures of the center runway and you just saw in a graphic with the corridor which tempe in their noise employees have been using really didn't follow what the original procedures were at the airport when the iga was made they were basically uh heading and navigation procedures out of sky harbor that forced the aircraft to follow the vr or follow a navigation equipment in the riverbed tepeo never has satisfied whole how that was implemented and also during the processes the faa followed by by changing the procedures tempi worked hard to get more exact navigation over the over the riverbed and therefore uh put their focus and emphasis on flight procedures when the update was made by kaufman associates we clearly communicated to kaufman associates that would be very hard for tempe which when the original or the 90 uh the update to the to the most competitive team was made the reuse about the projects was ongoing it was in the plans zoning was there when we pointed out it was not going to be very difficult it's going to be quite difficult for the city to then approach developers and [Music] re-zone these areas so both cities were pretty clear of the difficult difficulties they were facing so um i'll give you like 15 seconds that i got just to sum up that in the in my practice essay history in working with us at the airport the noise can be planned used spirited to noise insulation existing developments very few times have the question of land use and compatibility being addressed for new developments a few the rio salado first was hayden ferry we had some issues regarding that but since then tempe has continued to build and as the coach has told us the west side also continued to build on so that's that's my history reference yeah any questions please thank you really appreciate it next up is number five and that is lindsay frye please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have up to three minutes to address the city council all right hi everyone my name is lindsay frye i'm a phoenix resident thank you for the opportunity to speak today is tempe is an important place to me both sets of my grandparents settled here my parents actually met at mclintock high and now i hope to see a hockey arena built here as well for the last seven years i've worked to grow hockey in arizona with the arizona coyotes during that time my main focus has been on growing girls hockey because as a little girl who grew up playing this sport just down the street in chandler i know the incredible power our game can have when it comes to transforming lives when i started playing ice hockey back in 1998 the coyotes had just come to town a few years prior and their arrival served as a catalyst for more rinks being built here in the valley one of those rinks was in chandler and when i began my hockey journey i was the only girl on my team in fact i was one of the few girls in the state playing hockey as i got older my goal shifted away from being chained down and playing on the coyotes to a goal that was more realistic for a girl which was to play in the olympics but if i wanted to accomplish that i was going to need to play in college and unfortunately coaches weren't record recruiting boys teams in chandler to find their next female player so i had to leave home as arizona still didn't have a robust ecosystem for girls to play my parents made the selfless financial sacrifice to fully support me as i ended up commuting by plane to colorado to play in high school where i was eventually recruited to play at harvard university during my time at harvard my dream my dream came true when i played on the 2014 olympic team where we won the silver medal i became the first hockey player male or female from the state of arizona to play ice hockey at the olympics and the first arizona-born athlete to win a medal at the winter olympic games all because this team came to town in 1996 and provided me an opportunity through their growth of hockey in the desert since working for the coyotes our team has built the arizona kachinas which is a girls hockey association that serves hundreds of girls at every age and level players are building confidence learning teamwork and now are being recruited to play at colleges all over the country including right here in tempe for the asu women's program beyond girls hockey our team teaches thousands of kids of all backgrounds how to play street hockey roller hockey and ice hockey every year in my line of work i often get asked two questions why do you love your job with the coyotes and why hockey i tell people i love my job because everything good i've ever had in my life has come through this sport my relationship with my family my character as a person my education my spouse my career and i want to pass on that experience to others and as for why hockey well to answer that i often share a quote i once heard from a friend who also grew up playing hockey here in arizona he said hockey is one of the few sports that resembles life in other sports when you get knocked down the whistle blows and the play stops but in hockey when you get knocked down the play keeps going and you have to get up and keep playing the coyotes have been knocked down plenty of times but we get up every time and we keep playing because that's the spirit of this game and of this organization and if this project gets approved the coyotes will not only get up we will rise up and continue to transform lives through this great game that once transformed mine thank you thank you very much next up we have number six david adame please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you mayor and council david adami president ceo of chicano school at gausa i come as a unwavering supporter of this project and hope you guys approve it although i'm not a tempe residence my organization operates 440 units of housing here in the city of tempe proper we also made about 500 ppp loans during the pandemic to support tempe companies and we also have made millions of dollars in scholarships to asu students who reside here in tempe we've been helping the community for 53 years and when it comes to the coyotes i didn't i didn't approach them javier approached me and said hey dave what can we do to help the community i said if you're serious let's talk about other things it's great you can write checks and they did that by the way every game on on the big board you could see a non-profit getting a check even in the times when they had no audience it was all virtual they were still even though they were not making any money because of the pandemic like most sports teams if you ask them they all struggled to survive the other thing that we talked about for this project is i said there's there's a there's a shortage of housing a desperate shortage of house and yes any economic council companies trying to come into any city now are asking what's availability of housing stock it's very important so we agreed to partner and invest ourselves in partnership what xavier mentioned earlier in his presentation to create a workforce housing fund which is still on the table if that's part of the negotiations going on we also talked about how do we create a workforce which is also a struggling thing right now for everybody we said let's do an apprenticeship program on the construction side so we it's a desperate you know there's over a million job shortage in construction across this nation 60 000 here in arizona they're willing to do that and put money in there to support that they also are doing things to help build uh economic wealth and people of color communities so i'm working with javier and the aspen institute to create programs so that we can support the community including city of tempe residents they're also doing community clinics in the community to make sure that everybody has an access to this great sport and the opportunity to learn from it but let me before i run out of time talk about alex morello this is a gentleman who's the american dream and especially for the latino community he's an icon and somebody we all look up to this is a man who started a business to deliver pizzas in an area where no other pizza company would deliver to our community but yet he did it he stepped up and did that and now he's built this empire so it's been talk about his wherewithal but let me tell you i've been to the millions of investments he's made in the sahara casino in las vegas where we also operate as an organization and incredible how he's turned that into a great asset for the city of las vegas and they'll tell you also they talked about wherewithal they also are the controlling interests of a bank which is 2.2 billion in itself so any reports about just the team of course the team didn't make any money during the band nobody did everybody was struggling and they also have construction management last thing i'd like to say should give me just a couple seconds is my my friend mary rose wilcox a former county supervisor for maricopa county is number 86 said she can't stay that long she said that this is the best deal she's seen and all the deals that she's been involved with it doesn't involve putting any debt onto the city's balance sheet and it's a great deal that you guys should take a strong look at so thank you thank you mr domi thank you mr wilcox appreciate it all right next up item seven on item seven number seven is matthew felling uh and i believe mr feling is virtual yes uh can you hear me yes mr fellaini please go ahead uh state your name in place of residence you have up to three minutes to address the city council thank you mr mayor and members of the tempe city council i appreciate the uh opportunity to brief you to briefly address you today uh my name is matthew fehling and i've had the honor and privilege of serving as the president and ceo of the better business bureau serving the pacific southwest since 2005.

our primary campus is located at 1010 east missouri avenue in phoenix and i live in north phoenix bbb is supported by over 12 000 businesses in arizona with nearly 1100 having their business address in tempe you may know what's best as an organization that serves consumers who turn to us to help uh turn to us for help finding a trustworthy business or for help in resolving a business dispute what we're less known for but equally proud of is being a business partner that proactively supports an ethical community we do this by providing resources and education by leading experts to business owners and entrepreneurs along every step of their business journey we run in partnership with godaddy a main street business accelerator program and provide co-working and collaboration spaces to our business and community partners and offer educational opportunities we also manage two micro lending hubs helping the underrepresented who are otherwise unable to qualify for traditional business loans to launch improve or scale their businesses and while bbb is my full-time job i'm here wearing another hat the head of a director of the arizona coyotes foundation i've had the honor of serving as the board director for the arizona coyotes foundation for the past eight years and in addition to those eight years i've been a season ticket holder of the coyotes since 2005.

i truly wish i was able to be there in person but i had a previous commitment presenting at the orange county business journal's family-owned business awards which when you think about it is a bit apropos for today you see since the arizona coyotes were acquired by mr merulo and since javier was appointed president and ceo the organization specifically the foundation has taken on a true family feel a family that values the community they live and work in and a family that strives to make improvements their end and while i've mentioned being a part of the coyotes foundation for eight years i can say that i've never seen a stronger team committed to investing in the community as the one that's been put in place think about this for a minute the team was not wanted by the arena they were in a pandemic forced them to stop play and then play without the benefit of ticket or concession sales yet during this time they increased the amount of staff resources and efforts dedicated to improving the community outside of hockey operations imagine if those impediments hadn't been in the way and imagine if they had a partner that viewed them as a true partner in improving their communities that's tempe's opportunity you've heard and we'll hear about economic impact jobs tourism but what i find most compelling and endearing about the organization is this the commitment that they've made to improving the community just in 2021 alone we achieved 1 million in lifetime giving to phoenix children's hospital gave away 22 000 tickets to military and first responders provided 10 000 students with a pe curriculum 75 learn to play clinics were hosted 77 000 in girls hockey scholarships provided 150 elementary schools with a reading program and volunteered over 700 hours through staff mr family your time your time is up actually i'm sorry oh that's okay i was just going to say thank you and uh it can only be a benefit to the organization and the organization is only as good as the people's employees so they have great people and i ask you to start to vote to start negotiating with the organization thank you thank you so much appreciate it next up uh we have person number eight and that is clayton keller here to spoke okay next person is person number nine carly acardo please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have up to three minutes to address the council i would also ask uh numbers 11 to 15 to also get ready to speak as well 11 to 15.

hi there my name is carly accardo and i am a gilbert resident from the east valley i am the proud mother of late nicardo leighton was an honorary member of the arizona coyotes she was the 2019 hockey fights cancer ambassador and her name hangs at the former home of the coyotes at gila river in their ring of honor i'm here today to talk about the coyotes and the impact that they had on us i'm here to speak of their heart and of how genuine this organization is don't mind me if i get a little choked up here the impact the coyotes made on the life of my daughter and on my family go beyond words they go beyond these three minutes and nothing i say here today will truly show my appreciation and gratitude because it's more than i can say they will forever forever hold a special place in my heart from the moment they came into our lives i've always said that as a professional sports team the coyotes are in a league of their own the memories and experiences they provided for my daughter leighton during her short nine-year life and during her battle with cancer are memories that my kids my husband jeremy and i will cherish forever my family has grown up around professional sports their dad is a 12 year retired professional baseball player and now a professional coach during those years he was always a part of whatever community programming they had whether it was food banks hospital visits special olympics etc but never in all those years did we ever see a full top to bottom effort from a team like we experienced with the coyotes former management and players are the ones that brought my daughter in but new management and players picked up right where they left off some of them not getting a chance to meet leighton but still appreciating and knowing the importance of her relationship with the team continue to do what they can to carry her on her legacy and make sure that she is not forgotten even though layton is gone the coyotes will continue to do what they can to make an impact create experience and memories for other kids like her the coyotes genuinely care about the community the kids and the impact they can make they attract the type of players who care about being a part of the community and being involved players like the three you saw here today players like lawson krauss who as soon as the off season started came out to the junior coyote spring training sessions just to say hi to my two boys and check in on local hockey players whose jaws were on the ice when they saw that this player was there on the bench cheering them on these players do these things not because they have to but because they want to our hockey community in arizona is growing leaps and bounds every year i have two boys that currently play youth hockey with the junior coyotes out of scottsdale i see the growth i'm part of the growth it's vital for that girl to continue to have an nhl team here for these kids to look up to and aspire to and in my opinion there is no better organization in the entire league or in all of sports than the arizona coyotes you need to vote yes to carry on these negotiations to the next level with the coyotes we need to give them a new home here central accessible for all for the entire valley for players from the west from the east north and south so to close this out i can only do it the way my daughter said to every player before a game work hard have fun and go coyotes thank you speaker number 10 is colin diaz please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council hopefully you all can hear me so i'll move this up good afternoon mr mayor and members of council my name for the record is colin diaz i'm the president and ceo of the tempe chamber of commerce uh the chamber has served as the voice of business for both small and large business throughout the city as well as a catalyst for economic growth and a champion for strong community for a little over 100 years this rfp process represents a tremendous opportunity for tempe developments like the tempe entertainment district when done correctly generate jobs revenue and community pride however this must be a good fit for the community this obviously does have the potential to do just that many businesses located in tempe do look at the proximity to sky harbor airport sky harbor obviously as it stands is the largest economic engine in our state it's an asset as a neighbor and it deserves tempe's consideration and attention to the concerns that were raised should the council continue to proceed with negotiations the tempe chamber recommends a public input process and compliance with the iga much as what has started here today again having the coyotes excuse me here in tempe is a remarkable opportunity and overall um can be great for the community and can be a blueprint for partnerships and development moving forward so in closing i want to thank you for the time and the opportunity to speak with you all and also extend an offer to be an outlet as well as convening businesses should you plan to move forward and want to hear their voices thank you thank you so much diaz next up we have speaker number 11 kevin brown please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council is kevin brown here it is in person here is kevin brown by chance uh in the virtual room okay you know okay we okay then i'll move on to number 12.

uh speaker number 12 is cooper festy and cooper is virtual is cooper available speaker number 13 is joe forte who i did see please come up state your name in place of residence you have up to three minutes to address the city council mayor council thank you so much for um the opportunity to speak and uh i'm gonna make this short because i actually one of my friends in the back had number 1100 so uh we'll try to get this going but um i've been a 16-year resident of uh the city of tempe and in my official capacity as um the executive director of keep tempe beautiful i am 100 um on board with moving forward i've actually been talking with individuals from this the arizona coyotes and they are um very interested in doing many things for the community including tree plantings and beautification and and litter removal so i say let's do this thank you so much thank you very much next speaker we have is number 14 brian ellis who's virtual mr ellis can you hear me all right get in the middle one and click it i'll take you there you go uh please state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council and i would also say if i could get speakers 16 through 20.

sit down click it let's go oh okay all right uh mr ellis uh we're all good when you are um hi can you guys hear me okay yes okay uh thank you for the uh awesome i live at 1971 east branch up in tempe elliott mcclintock i am uh i am employed by the airport i don't know how much in detail i can go there but i've been an employee of the airport for uh 19 years um well of a resident of the airport believe it is that um a little longer than mr uh el elwood was with that company so uh i have three children all three of them are in uh the coyotes development program over at uh chandler and uh this would be a uh a very big welcome uh to have uh hockey closer to us i used to take my kids to the paddy's games out in glendale uh but the hour and a half two hour trek out there is uh was uh was a little too much so um i look forward to this uh going to the next step and uh and being looked at by the by the city council um i i i never played hockey when i was a kid um i grew up near chicago so i'm not going to say what my favorite team is but now it's it's the coyotes and uh i after being around the parents and the families and the uh the community that that is hockey i i i really don't want my kids to play uh but anything else i'm really impressed by the community that that is hockey and not just to have the coyotes there but to have the the chance for um the youth development program to take place at that um at that ice rink well it's not used by the nhl this is uh this is going to be huge it will increase increase the popularity even more of hockey and tempe so uh i am i'm a huge fan of this and a big proponent uh thank you for letting me speak and i'll end there thank you thank you so much mr ellis appreciate it next up is speaker 15 mayor hugh hallman please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council mayor and city council members as uh mayor woods said i am former mayor hugh hallman the political has been or arguably never was i will tell you i'm here as a private citizen i do not represent anybody here and i am not compensated by anybody uh here or anyplace else contrary to some popular opinion anybody who says otherwise is itching for a fight i am grateful for all the presentations first by the applicant even sky harbor all the interested members of the public although i will say the sky harbor presentation sounded a little bit like the airing of grievances during festivus but all those presentations may be valuable and it's great to begin those discussions those are for the future i'm reminded to focus on what's before this city council today only one question it is not whether there is a project being presented that should be approved or denied or whether such a project should be or must provide union jobs or whether the project will harm sky harbor yeah brought tears to my eyes or even whether the project will provide all the benefits that the applicant has outlined the only issue before you is to make a single decision let me quote from your rfp the interest of the city of tempe is to select a mixed-use developer that has experience developing sports and entertainment mixed-use projects after review of the offers received by the city the city council may select a developer for the right to negotiate for the development of the project so the only question before you is decide whether or not to take the step to open public discussions for a potential project those who have complained that discussions only have gone behind closed doors frankly are correct but the proper response is not to do as some of those folks have advocated and deny the award to the applicant that would be kind of hypocritical it would seal and close the doors forever leaving us all outside wondering what really happened instead it's time to open the doors and allow transparency into this project into this process let the sun shine in it's ironic i suppose that the only that only the opponents of the project have had the freedom to contact the mayor the council the city manager and other city staff only the applicant has legally been precluded from making such contacts or to defend itself or to advocate for the project that's wrong as i recall under prior policies once an rfp had been issued council and staff were not to discuss a proponent's proposal with those advocating for it or against it unless clarification from the proposal was sought from the applicant that's fair the period between issuing the rfp and awarding the right to negotiate is not the proper time for further engagement or negotiations and certainly not the time to advocate that you now restrict residential product on a parcel of land where a project has not even been negotiated that's absurd so i propose a level playing field that is open we need to find out if the offered benefits of the proposed project are real and can be captured or only puffery we need to determine whether all the claimed horrors of this project are real or mere figments of overwatch imagination just one example and i'll quit the one example is from my personal knowledge so far the claim that the 1994 iga prevents residential development on this site those folks appear to have overlooked the 1996 exchange of letters between the city of phoenix and the city of tempe signed by none other than mayor giuliano and mayor skip rimza clarifying that the agreement did not eliminate residential product as long as it was multi-family it does eliminate single family residential and i have to say that it doesn't gut the iga or the four dme procedure or the navigation easements or any other noise abatement procedures to allow residential here all the 29 900 residents protected from noise when we entered the iga are still protected people who elect to live here get to sign an agreement that says they understand that so in short i don't know whether the there's a successful project that will result from the proposal or the council will ultimately approve it but that's a question for the another day today is merely to open the doors and let the sun shine in on this process so we can how to see how to capture the offered benefits and address all the concerns even those from sky harbor today is the day to grant the applicant the right to negotiate with the city in the open and i hope you'll do so this is the bible for aviation issues by the way yes i helped write the iga anybody who wants to discuss it i'll be happy to do so thank you bear hallman next up we have speaker number 16 tom brown please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council uh marin council i'm tom brown uh 44-year resident of tempe i live in homestead lane in 85284 i had gathered a lot of a lot of remarks to cram into three minutes today but today's summary in the arizona republic says it all and journalism of a factual matter still matters no one in this room has an issue with the team or where they are with the team or with the sport of hockey we wish you success wherever you play i will just touch on one idea uh despite the buster that we've heard um i do believe that the development team for the tempe entertainment district knew full well that the inclusion of housing was a deal killer because of the aviation issues and the iga of 1994.

i'm an average tempe architect and i knew there were height height issues and housing issues if you build to try to build in line with the runway so it's inconceivable to me that this team did not know the faa criteria they hired the largest design firm in the us gensler and a major sky harbor contractor aecom for their team i focus on this because it smells like the developer's inclusion of housing after numerous warnings by sky harbor was simply a negotiation strategy when this um first of all note also that uh housing is in phase two when this development team decides to drop the housing from their plans it will expect the sympathetic council to allow the remainder of their scheme with plenty of tax breaks and a bizarre bond structure for landfill remediation which will in effect fund their startup construction costs all development projects encounter issues in the planning phase it's irrelevant to me that a small site in phoenix got one by the zoning commission it's also irrelevant if a runway is extended 400 feet this direction that doesn't change at all the criteria of what's happening here in tempe we're talking about tempi not what happened in phoenix uh six miles to the west so i um i want you to know that i i think the developers when they discover the housing is not feasible um mr brown real quick uh someone just texted me and said they've lost the feed on channel 11 of the web so i want to make sure that can i start over i will i will grant you a little bit more time because of the interruption i apologize as well make sure not us okay oh it's probably someone's local local no one else is no one else is hearing anything from anyone so again i i'm going to conclude it's irrelevant to me that the tempe staff included the word housing in the rfp um or when the developers discovered that housing was not feasible whether it was six months ago or five minutes ago please don't let this grow this this this development team lay a guilt trip on you and expect you to pay for lost lost uh lost profits i don't think they ever expected to build housing and that they have not lost anything except they're at least in glendale and perhaps some credibility to close this is this is a business venture not a hockey game bigger is not always better please protect our city thank you thank you mr brown next up is speaker number 17 is uh is ian kelly in the virtual ruber no okay just wanted to give one last shot okay sounds good all right next up i also appreciate all the people texting me saying the feed's working on my end it's very interactive all right next up is speaker number 18 john levinson please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have up to three minutes to address the council mr levinson not here is mr levinson in the virtual room just just in case nope okay i'll move on to speaker number actually i should probably say if i can also get speakers 21 to 25 to kind of get queued up as well that would be helpful 21 to 25.

next up we have speaker number 19 catherine brubacher please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council catherine brubacher is catherine in the virtual room by chance okay next up i have speaker number 20 ronald tapscott please state your name in place of residence uh mr tapscott i believe you might be virtual he's red one he wanted it red okay so okay i will make sure then to i i think it's mr tapscott's is in my pile i'm assuming okay so so so just read the comments into the record the counselor you're saying or yeah okay okay sounds good that i will read those during the red portion of the agenda okay okay next up is speaker 21 roland madison it's roland madison here in person all right the next speaker i do know is here speaker number 22 is jerry mcpherson please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council good afternoon mayor woods council members my name is jerry mcpherson and i am a resident of tempe i serve as director of economic empowerment for the greater phoenix urban league where i'll oversee the organization's workforce development initiatives as well as our small business and entrepreneurship center which jointly provide economic opportunities for minority and underserved communities i speak to you today not only as a leader within this historic civil rights organization but also as a resident and a business owner in the city in any capacity i recognize how this initiative will provide employment opportunities for thousands in and around the city the additional revenue and business activities that will be generated for locally owned businesses in addition to the millions in new tax revenue this move will generate unless we're looking at reclaiming some of the land from the riverbed the square footage in the city is at its maximum i'm excited we have the opportunity to generate millions in new tax revenue from the site that is currently non-revenue generating i've listened to many arguments both for and against and i have yet to hear compelling argument while this project should not proceed or at a minimum reach the point of negotiations the coyotes have proven their willingness to invest in the youth and local community including a program which works with students of hbcu's historically black colleges and universities to induce them to the various careers within the sport i'm confident the coyotes will continue this momentum that they built and invest and provide the same for the city of phoenix and its residents thank you for your time thank you mr mcpherson next speaker we have is number 23 doris marie provine please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you very much as corey said my name is darth marie provine i've been a resident here for 21 years and i know some of the folks on the council and i appreciate that you are faced with a really controversial decision i'm really glad i was here for this whole hearing because it establishes a lot of issues that are in the air and what i want to talk about are ones that haven't been uh talked about as much i agree with something neil giuliano said just a little while ago that it's important to have the right partner here and i'm confused about a lot of things that have been going on like the fact that this process seems to have started months ago in some kind of secret negotiations with the coyotes and that bothers me a lot because this is the first time that the public has had a chance to weigh in on this i think the process already favors mr mariello because of his uh deterrent this whole issue about the iga and our willingness to kind of drop it um is all tied up somehow in this in ways that aren't very very clear and i've heard a lot about our mr maruello and what a wonderful guy he is and uh maybe a hero to uh to tempe but what i read about him is not nearly as encouraging at all that he has we might just call him a serial bankrupt he's a bad credit risk he's uh he's messed with glendale he's messed with phoenix in terms of paying things on time i feel like we've been kind of exposed to a snow job and it's been a very a very sophisticated one and i'm just a tempe resident i don't have the resources to give you a fabulous power point but there's some things here that just don't seem right at all and i worry that this council is too eager for development that there's been so much talk about how this will bring money to tempe this was something that was that was promised in the presentation but there's a lot more to tempe that we need to care about i worry about this 30-year giblet that fact that we're actually not it's not all being paid for by the coyotes i'm worried about traffic i can hardly get around on rio salado right now and it's going to be worse i'm worried about what might happen to mill avenue as someone pointed out earlier this isn't going to be a great thing for mill avenue to have a major entertainment district it's going to be like one of those malls that fails because another one comes in i worry much about this iga being dropped which i think is probably in the works here because it's going to mean a lot of noise i i wrote on tempe town lake i know how how noisy it is when planes go overhead because we can't even hear our coaches and something we haven't talked about at all is gambling gambling is a big part of this and it's a real danger in a college town my time is up but i'm just suggesting we need another rfp and i'd like to see hockey here but not this way thank you very much thank you miss provine next up we have speaker number 24 david sokolowski who is virtual this evening uh please state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council i would also ask if people speakers 26 through 30 could also get queued up mr sokolowski floor is yours thank you my name is david sokolowski i live in tempe i think the city should negotiate the terms of the agreement before we make a final decision i think it would be great if the coyotes could help us plan for the design of a future streetcar extension and i also think it's important for the coyotes to consider the beach park master plan so please vote yes to negotiate thank you thank you mr stokolowski next up uh speaker number 25 david ducette is david ducette in the virtual room no next up is speaker number 26 ian salsman is ian here ian salsman okay next up we have speaker 27 darren uh dubner is mr dubner here no okay speaker number 28 julio zamarripa yes mrs devaripo please come forward state your name place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council my name is julio zamaripa i live in long beach california but more importantly i'm here representing the airline pilots association association that represents uh more than 60 000 pilots in the us and canada our position is never political we're not rooting for anyone and we're not against anyone our only concern is safety and we have a lot to be proud of in aviation and u.s aviation we haven't had a single fight fatality in more than 10 years and is largely in part for the greater efforts that alpa has introduced into the aviation world we're concerned about this issue simply for the concern that we have about safety and it has to do with an obscure subject that most individuals they are not educating the subject it is difficult to see and that is um when we prepare for a flight our main concern is losing an engine at the worst possible moment and the single engine procedure is what we trained for and what has enabled us to maintain that excellent safety record now what is difficult to ascertain at first glance is if you lose an engine you lose 50 of your power however you lose 90 percent of your climb capability and that's what i'm here to talk about so uh when you see an airplane taken off under normal circumstances it clearly clear clears all the obstacles however when you lose an engine and you're only climbing 200 feet a minute now obstacles be obstacles become become a concern and we're concerned about this project calling for cranes up to 140 feet because in the event of an emergency an airplane losing an engine now we're going to have a problem and so i we feel that that issue has to be addressed before this project is approved we're not against the project i'm an elite kings fan and i like coyotes too but we need to be concerned about the safety of our operations at the airport at this point we're looking at probably taking off in uh with 30 empty seats to be able to keep that restrictions that that building would apply to us and can you imagine leaving 30 passengers behind in every flight during the summer time it would be a horrible event for the entire uh system not just the phoenix airport we're not concerned about the phoenix airport we have the same level of concern for any commercial airport in any commercial operation the us and canada and so as an output representative i'm here to ask respectfully of the city leaders to delay this project until the safety issues are addressed thank you thank you so much next up is speaker number 29 andrew marwick who i believe is virtual yeah yes okay please please state your name in place of residence you have three minutes yes thank you mr woods this is andrew meyer with the phoenix residence and um came in their sister city below summer france and um when i was 29 um i have 10 reasons and some more that the coyotes should not renegotiate with this agreement first of all the financial situation has changed dramatically in the last six months since this rfp was proposed the federal report is taking up the uh um the money supplies interest rates and can you turn down your tv i think you're getting kind of picked up by two speakers so it's just i'll just send that down there's another phone i wasn't expecting it to come very quickly the coyotes also have a very important record of paying their rent and taxes in glendale morello groups sierra resorts and the sahara las vegas are aging casinos with a history of bankruptcies and foreclosures the following are basically a list of history repeats itself the steve ellman struggled to buy the coyotes from richard burke and never got the coyotes arena development off the ground at the half demolished sarcophagus construction of westgate didn't start until almost two years after the glendale arena was completed and is nowhere near what ellman had promised glendale over 20 years ago elman lost weskey to foreclosure in 2011.

both scottsdale and glendale trudged through years of deadlines extended deadlines and four and even six hour city council meetings on end on end relationships between both glendale and scottsdale council members were destroyed by fights over the coyotes the nhl has a track record of choosing and tolerating fraudsters foragers and embezzlers as owners the owner of the nhl chose to purchase the coyotes from the nhl after four years of league ownership george gasby attempted to bait his wife into a murder suicide when she stayed hidden in a mountain cabin george gasby committed suicide by hanging excessive focus by the city of glendale and the number one issue is the excessive focus by the city of glendale and the coyotes over the last 15 years or so resulted in the neglect of a lot of other issues such as community policing the city courts code enforcement and the glendale is still dealing with those issues that are much more difficult because so much time money and effort was spent on the coyotes so for those reasons and many others i believe that the city of tempe should end the negotiations and consideration of this rfp today thank you mayor woods thank you so much mr borrowed i appreciate it next up our next speaker is number actually i should i should say if we can get uh numbers uh 30 to 35 queued up next 30 to 35 and speaker number 30 is jason price is jason price here i'm on the call oh okay great wonderful uh please state your name in place of residence you have three minutes hello my name is jason price and i live in tempe arizona honorable mayor woods and esteemed council members i am a long time resident of tempe my children attend city of tempe schools and also attend arizona state university where i'm that is my alma mater as an employee of a local business that operates within the city of tempe i think this is a good thing for the city of tempe i think that the decision here is to decide whether or not to move forward and vote yes on this proposal to enter into negotiations and a feasibility study to explore this more and i think that the outcome is to explore bringing more jobs tourism dollars additional office space and disrupt circular migration and capture retail spending for stores and restaurants in the city of tempe for those unfamiliar with the term circular migration that's when a resident leaves to go to work and goes and spends money on fuel and food and shopping outside of the city and then returns to the city to live in the evenings so having more opportunities for jobs that this would create and restaurants as well as stores helps the city of tempe so it is my recommendation that we vote yes on this proposal to enter into negotiations and a feasibility study thank you so much mr price next speaker is speaker number 31 barry siff who i know is virtual this evening mr siff you have please take your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council yes thank you very very much mayor woods my name is barry siff i live on tempe town lake directly on rio salado so very proximate to this planned project um i first of all want to thank the mayor and the council for the great direction of the city over the last couple of years have seen some great improvements and i think that's what we're talking about today as well of course i've written out my comments in advance however listening to the initial hours of presentations all i kept thinking about was the 1988 saturday night live parody of the dukakis bush debate where dukakis leaned over and said i can't believe i'm losing to this guy and i'm sitting here listening to the presentations and i can't believe this is even an issue of contention it is such an utterly positive effort for the city of tempe our residents and the entire valley i have long felt that one thing missing in tempe has been a proper brand of tempe not just being the home of asu i have long resented scottsdale as being considered the place to be in the valley i have a hard time explaining tempe as part of a suburb of phoenix tempe deserves its own right to beat tempe with a fantastic innovative growth of asu many new businesses and headquarters and the pending incredible south pier project further east on rio salado today's tempe town lake area is amazing tomorrow's tempe town lake area a place i call home can be one of a kind an iconic world-class place to be i implore the city council to allow negotiations with the developers of this iconic and transformative project to proceed i would further urge the city of tempe to immediately begin discussions and action upon a re-branding of tempe from the home of asu to something more reflective of the amazing current and further future transformation of our great city i just want to add that i've not been nearly as familiar with mr morello and the coyotes as i wish i had earlier i'm incredibly impressed with their dei efforts and achievements and i look forward to supporting them when they hopefully become part of tempe thank you very very much thank you mr siff appreciate it number 32 is a duplicate so i'll scratch that one number 33 is natalie alvarez please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes good afternoon my name is natalie alvarez and i am the ceo of greater phoenix urban league um good afternoon again i'm very happy to be here i'm very excited for the city of tempe mayor woods and council members i very much am in favor of this um we've heard a lot in even from my co-worker mr mcpherson from the greater phoenix urban league about the business side of it the financial side of it what it's bringing to the community here in tempe but not only has the coyote invested financially and in jobs and in employment and all of the great things here they invest in our youth and our youth are our future and i know um as working with mayor woods before we know that investing in our youth is very important the city of tempe is our most diverse city in our in arizona and the coyotes bring that leadership in their diversity as they come to tempe they are leaders in innovation just like the city of tempe it's a perfect fit they work very hard to do inclusion diversity they have remarkable programs of bringing people of color into this industry and if you look at the history of hockey you don't see that very much but they are innovators and they are leaders just as the city of phoenix leadership is so i think there's a very strong fit and i hope you move forward with this and i'm very excited for you all thank you thank you miss alvarez next up we have speaker number 34 jack mccain i think he's jack is virtual this evening please uh state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council good evening mayor woods and capital members thank you for the opportunity to represent american airlines before you my name is jack mccain i'm the director of government affairs for american airlines and the phoenix hub and i live there as well i've also been a military pilot for the last 13 years which helps inform my opinion today i want to first make clear that american airlines is not at odds with the arizona coyotes indeed i have many fond memories and attend competitors games with my father and family and have been a lifelong fan it's only the location of the planned tempe entertainment district and more specifically the proposed residential component that is at issue and how that will impact the economic engine that is phoenix sky harbor i'm happy to admit that despite working for a worldwide carrier i have significant bias where sky harbor is concerned because arizona is my home i have a vested interest in continuing to see it grow and prosper and for it to remain the economic heart of the state from january to the end of april sky harbor handled nearly 15 million passengers my own airline serves 102 destinations from phoenix and it is one of our strongest performing airports throughout the pandemic it's continuing to do so is in the economic interest of my airline sky harbor and the surrounding community among several concerns the placement 1 600 apartment units in such close proximity to the end of the runway despite the developers assurances that noise won't be an issue is perhaps the most problematic and for that i have a story my reserved duty station is naval air station coronado a base that has occupied the same real estate and operated military aircraft since 1911.

no one living on the island predates the base as a growing community despite the fact there was never a doubt that the military base existed in houses being built to modern noise abatement standards the constant air traffic became an object of ire for the community as noise complaints rose in frequency and vehemence the base became less attractive as a hub of fleet naval aviation which was a major factor for the divestment of almost all home-based fixed-wing jet traffic and necessitated numerous restrictions on operations much like the military all air carriers must carefully consider each market and noise complaints such as those that would undoubtedly stem from a community directly under the approach and departure path of the 200 daily takeoffs and landings at phoenix are one of the many factors in forming those decisions i want to see our community remain a popular destination for travel sports and business i want to see it continue to expand and remain an attractive market as it is now and the ted as currently proposed would likely severely negatively impact that i thank you for your time thank you mr kane appreciate it next up i would ask for speakers 36 through 40 to begin to get queued up 36 through 40.

but my next speaker is number 35 mr ken bottom good evening good evening uh mayor woods city council my name is ken bonham i am a chandler resident however i'm a tempe business owner i've been in the valley for 22 years i'm here today speaking on behalf of the arizona ice hockey officials association which represents over 100 officials at all levels throughout the state also the arcadia hockey club which is a private adult league which i'm a member and an active player and i'm also representing my own business high noon which is right next door a local tempe based marketing agency that was started here in tempe with my business partner just us tune has now grown to over 115 employees right next to city hall a little known fact about me is that without ice hockey i would not have been able to start high noon see i just retired this year after 25 years of officiating ice hockey which i did officiate lindsey fry when she was a little girl and she was awesome but without that extra income i never could have started my business never would have happened it wouldn't be where we're at today i needed that extra money and this sport allowed me to do that but i'm not here to simply say i'm a hockey fan and please bring hockey to the east valley i'm here to urge the city of tempe to do what they have always done and make the right decision for the betterment of the entire valley there's a lot of people in this room and maybe some council members that don't know this but when tempe town lake was proposed both mesa and the city of phoenix declined to partake fast forward to today and the center of the valley takes place right here in downtown tempe multiple class a buildings and a skyline that rivals any major city united states and i thank tempe for that i adamantly support this project encourage all of those involved to vote yes those of us in the valley who've been keeping track of the news know why there's been pushback our neighbors to the west had their chance to have the coyotes they purposely went out of their way to remodel a stadium to ensure that an nhl team could not play in their building please take the pushback with a grain of salt it is nothing more than them not wanting further competition and just like carrying the torch in tubby town lake the city of tempe will have the opportunity to turn a landfill into a landmark they will be able to do it responsibly ethically and most importantly efficiently for the citizens of tempe and for the betterment of the entire valley to express some of the things earlier these were concerns that were expressed no one came here from dc no one came here from the governor's office they just expressed concerns so i want to say that about the opposition also with the exception of a few people in this room who i know have lived extremely close to the airport i've probably lived closer to the airport than anyone sitting behind me a matter of feet from this building i never had an issue with noise i had a 13th floor high-rise apartment and i never once had an issue with airplanes and i lived in it over 10 years ago which means it was built materials that were probably 10 years older than that lastly my business is next door seven years i've been doing business next year i've never said uh hold on there's a plane flying by it's too much noise it's never affected anything so take that with a grain of salt and a very good point mill avenue is a concern but you know what they survived tempe marketplace and it's still thriving and all the tourists still come to mill avenue for all the cool things here so as i mentioned earlier this is a great opportunity and without this great sport i wouldn't be able to employ 115 employees here in the city of tempe this development's going to create thousands of jobs please support it and vote yes thank you mr bonham next up is speaker number 36 colin morrison please come forward state your name in place of residence you have up to three minutes to address the council good evening mayor woods and members of the city council thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak with you today my name is colin morrison i'm a phoenix resident and i'm a united states marine corps veteran with combat tours to iraq in 2003 and 2004.

i am also president and founder of arizona warrior hockey charities a 501c3 for military veterans who play ice hockey in arizona the biggest struggle i had when leaving the military which most veterans face is lacking purpose and no longer having a mission or a team these are issues that overwhelm the phoenix area veteran community one of the largest veteran densities in the country often leading to poor decision-making substance abuse and sadly suicide i faced all of these issues following my honorable separation from the marine corps in 2005.

it wasn't until i joined a recreational hockey league and became part of a new team that i realized i could find a sense of belonging with those who shared the same passion for hockey in 2018 i learned about usa hockey's warrior discipline through a post in a facebook veterans group after discussions with usa hockey i was encouraged to start a program in arizona with usa hockey support one to help provide veterans with the rehabilitation and camaraderie i found through the sport we started with three veterans in 2019 and now have 82 registered veterans in the program with varying skill levels including four of whom will be traveling to denmark this summer representing team usa warrior hockey is now the second largest and the fastest growing discipline of disabled hockey under usa hockey's guidance in november 2021 our organization was recognized by navy federal credit union and the national hockey league as part of the joint veterans day initiative we received a grant that ensured the future of our organization from navy federal as part of this initiative usa hockey representatives have stated we receive that grant in part of the coyotes efforts in diversity inclusion and growing the game of hockey in arizona not only will the proposed arena complex provide opportunities for ice time for our veterans but more importantly it can bring awareness to the mental health issues that plague the veteran community and to provide support in a positive and accessible environment is not hyperbole when i say hockey can save lives because i am proof of that this arena project can provide hope and support for the men and women of this country who are willing to give everything including their lives for the betterment of this great nation the veteran community and our organization would benefit so greatly from this arena as well as the dozens of other hockey organizations within the state please vote in favor advancing the proposal to complete the arena project thank you for your time and consideration thank you so much next up is speaker number 37 matt shorman please come forward and state your name and place of residence you have three minutes to address the council afternoon my name is matt shorman chandler arizona um i am the principal facility representative at phoenix tracon i work with the national air traffic controllers association the terminal radar approach control at sky harbor airport on behalf of air traffic controllers and aviation safety professionals at sky harbor control tower and phoenix traycon which is collectively responsible for ensuring the safe orderly and expeditious flow of traffic in out and around phoenix sky harbor international airport i'm here today to express our concerns regarding the construction project near the airport as a result of the proximity and keeping with our responsibility of ensuring the safety of passengers arriving and departing at phoenix at a minimum we have the following concerns obstruction clearance for departing aircraft single-engine climb performance if an aircraft loses one engine can be reduced by as much as 80 percent on a hot day with full engine power certain aircraft struggle to meet the required climb gradient out of phoenix to begin with the effects of cranes and construction and maintenance currently when a crane is raised at the tempe waterfront which is farther away than the proposed site nearly 60 percent of our long-haul flights and airbus 321 aircraft require runway 8 for departures the effect this has on airport capacity aircraft unable to accept runway 7 left for departures requiring runway 8 will increase separation required for arrivals requiring interference or causing delays interference with ground-based navigation equipment phoenix vor needs direct line of sight with low-flying aircraft out east and mountainous terrains near the superstition mountains same town mountains uh pilot distractions and controller describe distractions caused by lighting lasers and fireworks tower visibility issues especially caused by lighting san jose tower in california recently experienced a similar issue with levi's stadium which was built just adjacent to the airport the lighting caused distractions for the pilots arriving and departing and for the controllers getting visual acquisition of these aircraft mitigations worked through after the completion of the project increased risk to the national airspace system and costly remedies as an afterthought law enforcement operations during events requiring aviation support are going to be hindered being so close to the departure end if a helicopter needs to be at 500 feet or a thousand feet we're going to be unable unless we stop departures or arrivals into sky harbor currently we don't have enough information to determine the severity of these concerns we believe that the time to address these important safety concerns is in the planning phase not after the project has been finalized i respectfully request that these concerns are addressed with the project planners and to start the dialogue and raise awareness of the aviation safety concerns that may affect phoenix and its passengers i would like to end this with saying that we are a bunch of hockey fans we would love to see this and we support the economic growth of tempe thank you thank you so much next i have speaker number 38 matthew spang marshall please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council good evening my name is matthew spang marshall i live in the beautiful city of mesa just next door right here i am the president and founder of the arizona legacy pride hockey association i'm 35 years old and i began playing hockey five years ago in wisconsin with the madison gay hockey association this was an adult developmental league that created a safe space for people of the lgbtq plus community to learn and play hockey i did not grow up playing sports or watching commercialized sports but when i started playing hockey i gained many things the feeling of camaraderie of being on a team self-discipline to challenge myself and be better a healthy social exposure that brought positive support to my life and an outlet other than the jury work sleep eat repeat last year over the summer a public forum sparked a fire in me and a couple others to start a pride hockey league in arizona an nhl community outreach rep asked if anybody in arizona was doing anything and the coyotes wanted to help i responded and began virtually meeting with the coyotes to discuss our vision where would we find all these lgbtq plus hockey players we would make them and the coyotes offered to help they have an adult learn to play program known as the growlers and offered to launch a pride version just for us to help create hockey players for a new league with the support of the coyotes and a fire in my heart to give others what was given to me i committed to launching a non-profit pride ice hockey league and we were successful without the help of the coyotes this project may not have been able to get off the ground i personally did not have the means resources or even the experience to start and operate a non-profit of this nature but while standing on the shoulders of giants i felt a compelling perseverance to be who i needed for my community why is this important why be here today i wanted to express my experience to tell you that the arizona coyotes are a community nhl team they support us the arizona warrior hockey charities and many others letting this opportunity slip by the city of tempe would be shorting the community of access to a corporate helping hand that actually cares about its community and the proof is in their actions arizona is undeniably growing larger and we shine with a brilliant and capable workforce to task such a project i am a proud blue-collar member of arizona when i see projects all over the state that i was able to be a part of a project like this will help bring money to the working class in areas with jobs an entertainment venue like this will be incredibly easy to fill being so close to a community a college community and another engineering marvel like this would only add to tempe's sharp beautiful cityscape let's give the coyotes a den in tempe let's keep them here in arizona where they belong please vote to start negotiations with arizona coyotes thank you for your time thank you okay i'm gonna next uh see if we can get speakers 40 to 45 ready to go 40 to 45 but i will next up introduce speaker number 39 nicholas weller please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council thank you mayor and thank you council um and thanks to all the other citizens and residents who have come to this process it's really nice to see so many people engaged civically in tempe i hold some skepticism of of the proposal um but i'm okay with maybe moving forward with with negotiations i hold skepticism in particular of mr morello's generosity i think when billions of dollars are involved becomes very easy to to to maybe um overlook some concerns that that citizens might uh citizens might bring forward and i really urge the city uh council to ensure that this plan wouldn't burden the city or taxpayers with with any future expenses or surprise expenses that might come up um down the road um i loved the presentation we got today it is wonderful to look at really nice new buildings um but you know those things can really hide potential unforeseen costs and in the past we've seen development in tempe where there's promise benefits that sometimes get lost after there's some mix-up involved in the in the development process or construction costs go over and that's something we really should take uh we should um we should be cognizant of and it's generated a lot of skepticism in the community and i think that's skepticism that's that's fair and i hope uh you know the negotiating team and the city council takes that into consideration as they move forward with the process um tempe's growth is of course an important priority for for everyone that lives here and for everyone that does business here and um and comes and visits here but i hope the council and the negotiating team really can uh embody good governance and sustainable growth um as they move forward with this process um thank you for your time and thanks to everyone else again that showed up and participated in this civic process thank you thank you so much appreciate it next up uh we have number 40 joel erickson joel erickson please come forward state your name place residence is mr erickson here virtually okay he is okay perfect uh mr erickson can you hear me mr erickson can you hear me i will try one last time uh mr erickson can you hear me okay let me move on then the next speaker is james hayden number 41 james hayden bless you is mr hayden here in person okay i saw him earlier but he might have had to leave all right um number 42 originally i was sure i don't skip numbers and people think it's weird i was was uh chad mikowski from the airport so you're good okay just want to make sure so um next up is a number speaker number 43 jessalyn italiano a little speaker 43 all right seeing none next up is speaker number 44 marcia mintz is marcia available all right then i need to really quickly queue up uh speaker sporty oh let's see she's virtual okay so let me do this really quickly um let me queue up speakers uh 45 to 50.

45 to 50 and miss mints the floor is yours you have three minutes to address the council uh thank you mayor woods and council members um good afternoon everyone my name is martha mintz and i am the president and ceo of boys and girls clubs of the valley and we are based in phoenix i am honored to be here with you today to speak in support of the arizona coyotes this team and their leadership have been investing in our club members for decades as you may know boys and girls clubs of the valley serves more than 15 000 youth and teens and we have two long time clubs here in tempe one club at 715 west 5th street and the other one at 1555 north bridal reef street most of our clubs are in areas of high need and we have dedicated ourselves to ensuring that club youth have access to unique opportunities where they can learn play for us and make a plan for the future and that's where the coyotes have been such an instrumental partner our members know that they are important when the arizona coyotes come into the clubs and spend time with them as they've done in the past the coyotes will once again be at our tempe north france this friday teaching indoor hockey to a group of queens in the afternoon what i love is that they teach basic skills of a sport that might seem out of reach they coach on sportsmanship and help kids develop resilience around winning and losing our members our young kids have vested stained own and rock climbing races at the club and stock gold in a street hockey game with coyote players they've been on the ice before a game and in the captain and owner's suite for their first experience at professional sporting events javier gutierrez and liz montano have served as judges for our youth of the year program they offer their support and mentorship to our teams and they continue to do so today the coyotes live their values of commitment to the community and for our boys and girls club use throughout the valley but especially here in tempe and we look forward to many years of partnering together we're so grateful for the investment that they have in our community and in our youth and the sincere commitment of their leadership to support leaders of the future thank you so much thank you miss mintz the next speaker is number 45 tom carsteader who's virtual mr carstetter please state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council mr mayor and fellow council members i want to thank you for allowing this discussion my name is tom carson and i'm calling from washington state and i have just completed a 33-year career in the faa i am currently working for the arizona coyotes as a technical consultant today i've heard presenters comment on how aircraft will need to use longer runways more power and climbing more slowly during higher temperatures and how these aircrafts would be and i quote really loud significantly loud the ted development would have no effect on the noise or characteristics of the aircraft departing as these planes take off with the same runways and temperatures today as they did last year and they will do next year so the comments on these topics should have no bearing on your decision secondly the job of the faa is to regulate safety they have the history of providing the safest and most efficient aviation system in the world every aspect of this project will go through the rigorous procedures that are in place to process requests like ours and without outside distractions focusing only on the facts as they require safety will not be compromised and by following all the rules and regulations the safety thresholds that the faa mandates will be built in i believe that the faa will determine that the project will be deemed within regulations and ultimately safe lastly i would like to ask why other cranes that have been up in the past taller closer to the airport and for substantially longer periods of time some of which are up right now have not had any impact on delays at sky harbor over the last five years using the faa's own opsnet net data nor have they been held to the high level of scrutiny from so many people that have been scrutinizing our project thank you for allowing me the opportunity to comment on this and have a wonderful evening thank you so much next up i have speaker 46 tom cornell who's also virtual mr cornell if you could hear me um please state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council uh no comments at this time okay sounds good thank you thank you so much next up we have speaker number 47 chip malkins please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council thank you mayor and council my name is chip mulkins phoenix resident over 20 years i'm here to speak uh as vice chairman of the sports sky harbor coalition today i'd also like to speak on behalf of a construction company that has recently finished a project at the airport we had recently completed the terminal 3 modernization project and over that five-year project we booked over 2 million man-hours and i hear a lot about talk about jobs small businesses when you talk about money going back in the community the project also attributed over 70 million dollars to small businesses here in the local area so when you're talking about community and jobs and money going back there's not a bigger contributor than the airport itself what i ask you today is protect this airport it is important to community and small businesses construction um uh i thank you for your time and i ask you to not not vote against the coyotes i'm a hockey player too grew up playing hockey northeast but let's be careful with this residential uh high-rise right in the flight path thank you thank you so much for smoking next up is speaker number 48 ray artegyu mr artskew are you available last call rayartegu all right i would i would now queue up speakers 50 to 55 if you could get prepared 50 to 55.

but next up i've got speaker number 49 mark curvin mr mayor yes he left but he provided comments at the back of his card would you like to speak or okay i can try to i can take him okay thank you okay um let me so these were uh mark curvin i'll just read this really quickly uh i think the arena development is a great idea wonderful concept but only without public subsidies the 200 million dollar bluebird is asking um is seeking for site cleanup and infrastructure is completely unreasonable so fi stadium in la is a 5 billion project only 20 million dollars in public money for site prep less than one half percent of the project construction bluebird 200 million dollars for a two billion dollar project so tempe taxpayers subsidize 10 percent of the project unreasonable city council must finalize a deal with bluebird that does not rely on public paying for site cleanup and infrastructure otherwise walk away thank you matt curvin mark kerbin okay next up is speaker number 50 terry metros jerry metros are you here okay cool all right next up is speaker number 51 joshua wells joshua wells are you here in person or virtually it's an in-person slash virtual so he's first he's virtual okay mr mr wells can you hear me mr wells can you hear me i'll try one last time sneaker 51 is joshua wells mr wells are you virtual can you hear me okay speaker number 52 is brendan walsh brendan walsh could you please come forward state your name in place of residence 52 brendan walsh hold on someone said who's outside is mr walsh outside by chance someone i i could see the dot again yeah let's do that then let's go to we'll come back to mr walsh it's he's outside but let's just go to speaker 53 david borg are you here david borg are you here okay next speaker is number 54 yolanda hernandez please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council a good evening my name is yolanda hernandez i live in phoenix and i work here at the tempe mission palms de la construccion del estadio de i'm against the construction of the coyotes stadium here in tempe de los coyotes the stadium will give a tax break to a billionaire property tax break to a billionaire esto cupa receiver this worries me because why do they receive assistance and not me while we're still suffering from the pandemic all right tempe deserves the best like affordable housing for low-income people again please do the right thing and say no to the coyotes today gracias thank you so much all right next up i'd like to queue up speakers 55 to 60 55 to 60 but i see mr walsh here mr walsh please uh come forward state your day in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thanks mayor no problem number 82 i don't know how i'm here but yeah there's a lot of folks i totally get it so josh was josh was sick that's why he wasn't able to oh no worries so uh thank you mayor members of the council my name is brendan walsh i'm the executive director of case which is central arizonans for sustainable economy aside from other activities we do everything we can to assure that significant economic development projects in the cities the major cities of maricopa county benefit all working people with uh economic and quality of life benefits and not just the developers themselves so our organization we also work with this the as you just saw one of our members we work with the unite here the hospitality workers union that represents 1 000 workers uh here in tempe at asu food service and at the tempe mission palms across the street with yolanda so our concerns as organizations are few are many but i'll just talk about a couple number one is i want to talk about the the cost to taxpayers i know that the developers have said that there will be no cost to taxpayers um but i have there are some concerns that we obviously have with regard to giblets they said that they want several giblets i don't know how many it wasn't detailed in the proposal but i don't know the value of those um i don't know how much that's going to cost taxpayers and they did mention two giblets for the arena and for the practice facilities which they said they need the economic benefit from that because otherwise it doesn't have a fair playing field with other municipally funded stadiums in the city or in the state and in fact that would indicate to me that there is a financial benefit from those giblets that they actually need and it's weird that they would be asking you as attempting city council to follow along with the errors of other legislators and city officials who have built municipally funded stadiums i would also just ask about infrastructure improvements with regards to the project who is going to pay for the maintenance and operations of the sewers the water lines everything that's going to be built we're going to get a fire you're going to get a fire and a police substation i believe um who's going to pay for the expanded police and firefighters necessary to service this new uh center of activity so just these before you even dig into the bond and the details of the bond there's already a significant number of taxpayer uh taxpayer funded elements of this that are not being talked about in the proposal um i'll say one more thing about housing um and in the housing prices the cost of housing affordability in tempe and in other words in phoenix so there is some obviously the there is a proposal for a certain amount of stock in housing that would be part of this project but there's no evidence that the increased supply of such stock does decrease housing costs and certainly in phoenix increasing the housing supply in downtown phoenix has not made housing any more affordable there but i will talk about one more thing that has not been brought up and that's airbnb mr doan talked about all the people that will come across the world to come to this development the question is where are they going to stay there's not a ton of hotels in tempe they're going to stay at airbnbs and right now it's all investors buying properties to make airbnbs is already a problem for places like tempe uh where where residents are trying to keep up with the cost of housing and these that will get worse much worse with this situation if this development is built so this is something i think the council should really be concerned about so i have others to say of course but my time's up so thank you very much for your time and thanks for this process thank you mr walsh appreciate it so what i'm gonna do really quickly here i'm gonna go through speakers 55 to 60 and we're going to take a short 15 minute break just to get up stretch legs take bathroom breaks whatever you need to do well let me go next to speaker 55 ana martinez is is is adam martinez available uh anna martinez can you can you hear me is okay one more time is ana martinez available virtually okay i will move on to number 50 speaker number 56 maricela morris hi can you hear me clearly yes please uh state your name place of residence you have three minutes to address the council hello my name is marisa lamares i live in the priest in washington area my neighbors and i are demanding the city council reconsider the coyotes arena development as proposed i am speaking out against tempe's continued development that has pushed out renters much like i will be at the end of my lease in september i believe the new coyote stadium will no doubtedly add to the record-breaking increases to rental prices in our city i don't have an issue with our city growing i have a serious issue with our leaders handing over money to these developers in the form of tax abatements all for projects that are making it harder to live here i'm a good tenant i pay my rent on time every month and with that i pay my taxes to the city of tempe on time every month can we honestly say the same for this team 12 news has reported the end of the coyotes tumultuous tenure in glendale was marked by the city's threat to lock the team out of the city-owned gila river arena late last year over 1.3 million dollars in unpaid city and state taxes the coyotes blamed human error for its failure to pay its taxes on time by that time glendale had already decided to put the team out of a talking home since 2003.

the fact that this project will voluntarily give an indefinite tax abatement not only seems unfair to me as someone with a clean tenant record but also a bad deal for our city let's imagine what that tax money could do to improve our schools or better our streets or even fund more affordable housing i asked the city look out for the interests of everyday tempe residents over the interests of billionaire developers thank you thank you so much appreciate it next up is speaker number 57 geneviva guzman in person okay see no one uh next up is speaker number 58 irma fuentes speaker 58 irma fuentes all right speaker number 59 gary washington there we go thank you mr washington please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council good afternoon mayor and council members my name is gary washington and i am a uh i live in maricopa arizona i'm a worker at asu tempe memorial union billion so i'm always constantly in tempe so i'm always constantly fighting the traffic and whatnot uh the coyote stadium could increase traffic and congestion i mean like somebody else just stated tempe town lake is number two in most visited places in arizona and that's number one to grand canyon which is number on on the uh natural sorry is on the seven natural great wonders in the world and that's only in uh number two to that you know so it's it's already a lot of people that's going that's in tempe that can cause traffic and congestion and one thing that i do know about arizona traffic and the heat do not mix the cairo statement could potentially increase the cost of housing this concerns me also because tempe is already too expensive for me to live in even though i work in the city and it's just with gas and everything going up is the commute and traffic and all that is not going to be good for residents in tempe and another thing is why why are they getting so much assistance you know i like many others have lost my job during the pandemic what was my tax break at you know so it's jimmy deserves better please do the right thing and say no to the coyotes today thank you and god bless thank you so much and the last speaker before our break is speaker number 60 brenda roberts brenda roberts are you here you're scheduled to be in person one last time brenda roberts okay seeing none uh the time right now is 606 pm i'd like to see if we could come back at 6 25 p.m so 6 25 just take a short break just somebody get up stretch your legs and we'll be back promptly at 6 25.

thank you all right welcome back everyone hope you had a good break let me get back to the uh festivities here all right i'm going to go back to the public comment i actually i know speaker number 53 david borg is here now mr borg yes please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you my name is david borg i am a resident of mesa arizona i currently work at tempe mission ponds which is just across the street i was late coming here because i was staying a little bit over time at work i used to be a resident in tempe but me and my grandmother were actually evicted from our homes because a developer came and they wanted to turn our houses or our apartments i should say into luxury apartments developments like the one that's currently being proposed coyote stadium are the reason is the reason why we were priced out these developments are increasing land value and that's increasing property taxes which increases my rent there's thousands tens of thousands of tempe residents that are working class that can't pay rent because it keeps going up and we elected a lot of you to help with affordable housing and i'm just not seeing it and i want you and city council to focus on affordable housing to focus on improving this city for the people who live in it not the tourists that come to visit i'm not trying to say that coyote the team is bad and i don't want them here but i want to come back i want my family to be able to stay where they are and enjoy their lives and comfort not have to worry about this housing crisis that we're only just beginning to understand here in arizona it's only going to get worse from here unless people like you and the rest of the city council step up and make a change that's all that i'm asking thank you for your time thank you so much appreciate it all right so we've got next up speakers 61 through 65 61 through 65 and the next speaker is speaker 61 garth tullock yes mr talk please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you good afternoon mayor and um council members i'm a resident of i'm living in maricopa i work seven years in tempe and for the past seven years i watched the city grows and as workers around the city they cannot afford to pay the rent i have many poor workers many friends who have to move leave the city this proposal i'm not against it but i want you to look into the situation and consider it keenly i used to work games in glendale and after the football games we have to leave early just to get home so at limited space in tempe like this or would you facilitate those traffic or do you have plans to build extra lanes which i haven't seen that space in tempe to really facilitate all those things so with all of those situation and reason with it with the taxis to this super company i think that should go for sustainable housing for citizens because we was getting like 12 bucks an hour 15 bucks an hour that cannot parent in this city so i expect you to consider this situation look into it get some more expertise idea before you consider move ahead thank you so much thank you so much next up is speaker number 62.

i apologize for my messages mess this up amuchen logan please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council all right good afternoon um good afternoon mayor and council members my name is moochen logan i live in phoenix arizona my family used to live in tempe when i first got here in arizona we had to move out because the apartment owners failed to keep the property clean and it reached a point where though it was not healthy to live there no more my sister was pregnant at the time and we had no choice but to move out for her and the baby this project the project is asking for two property tax breaks why couldn't my family receive a tax break so we so we can stay somewhere in tempe does that seem fair to you my friends are still struggling to pay rent and they want to stay in tempe so please give us a chance and i just asked asked all of you guys mayor and city council members please do the right thing and say no to the coyotes today thank you thank you have a good one next up is speaker number amisha kete anakono please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you my name is amani chiquete anakeona i live in phoenix arizona go sons good afternoon mayor and council members i am a former tempe resident and a also a former employee that worked in tempe as well i'm also an artist i'm really concerned and i'm against the building of the stadium in tempe because of the fact that it could potentially increase the number of short-term rentals as far as the cost of airbnb and take alternative forms of housing off the market which are very important because right now housing there's a housing crisis that's going on right now in arizona um i heard a lot of people talk about dreams there are dreamers who are working class as well i also am a business owner who is struggling to get my business off the ground but with the increased cost of rent and a lot of different things it i don't even have the ability to really focus as much as i should on industry when i'm fighting and struggling to make sure that i have housing so the coyote stadium could potentially increase the cost of rent in tempe for working class individuals this concern concerns me because i was already pushed out of tempe because of increased rent costs and i really like tempe i hated that i can only go there to work out and i'm a pretty active person i love sports so i'm not against sports at all but when it comes down to my housing or housing for people working class people i feel like that that's more of a priority than sports also tempe has an amazing public transit system the free buses which i think is excellent so yay for that but um that's nolan void if people cannot afford to actually live there so the people who those buses would actually be served by you know if they can't afford to live there serve no purpose um so yeah um tempe deserves better please do the right thing and say no to the coyotes today thank you thank you can you please go clapping please i'm sorry you can't do that next up is item 64.

uh it was actually speaker 64.

i just you know just trying to like reprogram myself here um speaker 64 is isaiah chavez that's me right here sir oh hey how are you please state your name um you have uh three minutes to address the council thank you hello coyotes i mean i'm sorry yeah hello um my name is isaiah chavez i am a resident for phoenix arizona i've been a fan of the arizona coyotes for 14 years i heard about the new arena project that is happening in tempe and my thought on the arena project is the project looks amazing the coyotes will do very great and tempe the arizona coyotes is a very amazing hockey team to have since 1996.

the tempe plan has been out there since when the coyotes got their project planned in tempe after when the city of glendale terminated their lease from the past the coyotes planned to temporarily play at chase field home of the arizona diamondbacks just like when the tampa bay lightning played at tropicana field home of the tampa bay race from 1993 through 1996 and now they changed their plans to playing at the asu hockey arena from the 2022-2020 season through either the 2024 2025 season or 2025-20-26 season when they made plans to play at the asu hockey arena i felt amazed with their temporary plan when asu was strict on the coyotes about using just the coyotes logo on the center ice for coyotes games the coyotes then agreed to put both the coyotes and the sun devil's logo on the center ice during the coyotes and sun devils hockey games asu was also strict on the coyotes about putting their normal brandings on the ice just like the coyotes usually do back at gila river arena it is time to say our goodbyes to gila river arena the city of glendale and hello to tempe we thank the gila river arena and the city of glendale for 19 years of playing hockey i wish you all the best of luck thank you thank you so much appreciate it you're welcome okay next up i want to see if we can begin to get speakers 65 to 70 queued up 65 to 70.

i've got 80 here then i've got all these that came in afterwards so let's see uh speaker 65 is derek bocher or butcher mr mayor he's not in the virtual attendant okay we'll scratch that all right is speaker 66 john graham available john graham john graham are you here okay speaker 67 is david schwartz please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council the golden ticket it's me good evening mayor woods members of the city council for the record my name is david schwartz i have the honor and privilege to serve as the executive director for the support sky harbor coalition and have for nearly 20 years my efforts to protect and support sky harbor actually go back more than 20 years i am a resident of phoenix for the record and while the airport is in phoenix it's also a large economic asset for the entire region for tempe scottsdale mesa and the state so i mentioned i've been doing this for a while and i guess about the only good thing about getting older is you gain knowledge and a little bit of history and context and you learn things since i wanted to just share a few observations with you so back in the early 2000s i literally spent probably about a hundred hours in your tabco meetings tempe aviation commission meetings i sat there with oddbar it was good to see him again um and i remember on the night of 9 11 they still met and at first i was kind of like i don't know but then i was thinking you know it drove home a point that what they really cared about was that intergovernmental agreement about making sure they honored it and enforced it for the city of phoenix and the city of tempe and you know when you really boil down what the root issues they were dealing with was noise as it impacts tempe residents so now more than 20 years later here we are in this proposal really i believe goes against the iga and its ability to protect residents they're literally going to put as you know 1500 units residential units right off the end of the runway 10 000 feet squarely in the 65 dnl contour and you're going to it will impact literally a few thousand new tempe residents and it's as the faa said it's really not a good land use compatibility in fact they just sent you a second letter yesterday reiterating that and you know so it's going to create complaints to sky harbor but it's also going to come complaints to you all as you if you approve that so i had to change my points here because i've known nick wood for about 30 years and i have the utmost respect for him i've worked with him but there were a couple points that he brought up i just want to kind of clarify so just for the for the record he talked about that smoking gun you know that runway extension and they stumbled upon upon it you should know that that was not an error it wasn't something they're hiding it's been in plain sight the city has pro sky harbor has presented it at the tavco your tempe aviation commission the phoenix aviation advisory board the phoenix city council the east valley partnership maricopa association of governments and i'm sure there's been others and here's the thing they even gave it to the developers just so they knew so that smoking gun they handed it to them if it was still smoking um and and it's also been on the city's website and it has been since i think march or so also those i'll be real quick those uh noise contours you saw those were approved by the faa and if they would have just called over sky harbor they would have had it and they're available on the city's website the last thing he said about the sauce for the goose i'm reminded of the goose and the golden egg every day this goose lays a golden egg called sky harbor it that golden egg benefits tempe phoenix and you may recall the end of the fable when they went looking for more gold the greed has ended up killing the goose you don't want to kill the goose that lead the golden eggs i thank you for your time mayor by the way you're doing a great job these are hard meetings to run and you're doing a super job thank you dave i appreciate that thanks so much next up next up i is person 68 tanya gomez woman 68 tanya gomez woman butcher i am like yeah the red dispenser all right let me go then to person number 69 renee williams yes please come forward and state your name place of residence you have three minutes to address the council i'd also like to see if we can get speakers 70 to 75 ready 7875 thank you four is now yours renee williams 1506 east broadway i've been a resident for i don't know 30 some years in tempe and i'm coming here today i'm grateful to mayor hallman for explaining that this is about whether you should begin no negotiations this isn't a vote i understand that i'm here to tell you shouldn't because you're not ready you weren't ready to enter into this rfp if you didn't know before you entered into that how bad it was and all the money we spent trying to fight the faa last time you don't understand there's zero chance we're going to win this if they go in and say the word unsafe we're out of there the court will defer to them every single time with one week's notice i couldn't get the public records to see how much we spent on that previously but i know it was a lot and we can just try and fight that again even if we get over the iga do we want to and the other reason you're not prepared if you went into that rfp and didn't know that the epa has been handing out brownfield reclamation grants for decades and we've never even applied you know this year the city of phoenix got a 1.4 million dollar revolving loan just to figure it out not to clean up just to figure get a new assessment and pay for planning so that they can come back and apply for the grant to actually clean up later i mean you haven't even started you're wasting your time please spend your time figuring out why the water is bursting under my feet if that water line bursts in front of my house and i can't flush my toilet and i have to come back in here in a diaper you think mayor hallman's loud you haven't heard anything thank you thank you so much appreciate it next up is speaker number 70 reuben zaragoza who's working from our woods on members of the city council my name is ruben saragosa state local affairs director for southwest airlines thank you for permitting me to comment on the tempe entertainment district proposal before you in january southwest airlines celebrated 40 years of service at phoenix sky harbor international airport southwest currently has over 4 400 employees at star harbor most of whom live eat and play in the greater phoenix metropolitan area southwest is very proud of its record as it relates to employees and even prouder of being good stewards in the community over the years southwest has worked with sky harbor and the faa to establish procedures to help mitigate aircraft noise in and around the airport the proposed project not only includes a sports arena but commercial and residential buildings all of which are located just 10 000 feet off the east end of sky harbor's southern two runways and are directly in line with the airport's primary departure runway we urge the council to keep in mind these facts this entire proposed development is contained within the high impact 65 dm dnl noise contour and is in direct conflict with skies with southwest and sky harbor's effort effort to reduce noise especially in the city of tempe the proposed multi-family residential housing will be directly underneath the primary sky harbor flight path and is in is on incompatible land use the faa has indicated serious concerns about the ted proposal and has identified that any residential development in the proposed area will be incompatible land use given its proximity to the runways experience has proven that even mitigation tools such as insulation or sound insulation and aviation easements simply cannot make the proposed land use compatible with airport operations modeling has shown that residents in proposed development should explain should expect expect flying arrive flights arriving and departing over their homes as frequently as every 60 seconds during the day it's virtually embeddable that residents of such housing will ultimately generate noise complaints and this can negatively impact one of the main economic injuries that drives the local economy that could potentially limit southwest ability to add flights to connect tempe and phoenix area travelers to places that are important to them southwest urges the city council to consider the unattending consequences of this proposal and the potential impacts they may have on operations as well as future growth at sky harbor airport thank you for your consideration thank you so much next up we have speaker 71 roberta miller speaker number 71 roberta miller okay moving on speaker number 72 gary summers is gary summers available all right speaker number 73 73 is bill ruiz there we go please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council all right good evening uh mayor and city council my name is bill ruiz and i'm a resident of phoenix lifelong arizona native and uh with respect to all the testimonies that you've heard tonight about those that struggle with the cost of housing the cost of gas low paying wages my remarks to you tonight are going to reflect on a particular topic as it relates to labor and the workforce i'm a member of the arizona carpenter's local union in 1912 and i have many brothers and sisters that were here with me today i know the decision before the council is highly controversial and your vote will affect working families here in tempe and in the surrounding communities uh a lot of what you see in tempe and in the surrounding cities the construction uh that you see along the i-10 corridor were built by union carpenters the training and skills our workforce possesses is evident in much of the skyline in downtown tempe we are a safe competent workforce and we're stronger than ever many members of city council if you decide to begin negotiations and give tax breaks to billionaire developers you must ensure that the way the project is built reflects on the values of our workforce and our community the council should consider a community benefits plan that includes local procurement opportunities in connection through design construction and operation of the arena being proposed if you proceed there must be a good safe full-time career track jobs in the project construction and operation of the arena skilled workers are essential today and any plan should require oversight and accountability along with hiring apprenticeship requirements incentives for contractors who hire local talent within the city and not out of state contractor transparency including certifiable payroll records and reports and above all wage area standards must be enforced i would recommend that any rfps include specifics such as reporting compliance non-compliance language and a local commitment and community participation an emphasis on training through vocational and accredited department of labor programs on behalf of the local communities the arizona carpenters union stands with working class families to advocate for jobs wages and benefits thank you thank you mr police appreciate it please no clapping please next up we have speaker number 74 kim gaffney loza please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council good evening mayor and council i came here tonight with no opinion i didn't know enough um but after listening to all the comments i definitely think it's something that we have to consider i remember i think it was about four years ago that the city had hired a consultant to look at the infrastructure of our city properties and if i remember correctly this property was one that they thought was most developmentally lucrative i know there's a lot that has to be done you know to the property and i know there's a lot of considerations i don't know if the four tribes have been consulted on this at all i'm sure there's probably archaeological um things that need to be looked at and that's something that you know may put a wrench in and everything i'm a little aggravated with sky harbor airport i value sky harbor airport being close by it's been you know a great convenience for me but especially southwest airlines totally totally avoids the iga requirement that's the one i see the most going over my neighborhood i live with it because it's a give and take kind of proposition but i really don't like that idea of us being threatened you know with going forward with this taking away the iga because they've also violated it as well um there may be conditions the reasons that they have but it doesn't matter you know there's there's give-and-take in everything i have a great deal of faith in the city of tempe and their staff to find creative solutions to problems in development and construction and so i know that the the staff does a great deal of uh work vetting different developers so at this point i really think that we need to look further and so my vote is to go ahead um with the rfp and and look at it more um there's been many rfps that have not gone through after negotiations this may be one of them but i think we should give it a chance thank you very much thank you so much appreciate it so if we can also make sure we get speakers 75 through 80 queued up next 75 through 80.

you'll be happy to know though um after this that's the uh my first one's here but then i just have cards so we're actually getting to the end of my original sheets so things are moving uh 75 is captain jeffrey sedan yes sir yes sir please go ahead you have three minutes to address the council good evening my name is jeff seden i represent the airline pilots association as the chairman of the airport and ground environment group i'm a line captain of a major airline have been flying as a pilot for over 40 years and 25 000 hours of flying time just last october i was in tempe speaking about airport and runway safety with the arizona airport association i will not speak about the additional costs the airlines will occur due to limiting the passengers and cargo allowed on the aircraft or the additional time flights will need not being able to use the south runway the airlines will speak about that i will not speak about compatibility issues that is for local officials to decide i will talk about safety elpa's model that's the airline pilots association's motto is scheduled with safety safety is paramount in the aviation business the height of the arena does not pose an issue the height of the residents and the hotels are an issue and will be made worse during construction of these buildings hot weather in phoenix lowers aircraft performance and brings aircraft close to these buildings under ideal conditions weather turbulence and any mechanical issues will lower these safety margins the coyote presentation earlier today showed a light show this is a flight hazard to pilots authorized and unauthorized lasers are even a greater hazard the other hazard unmanned aircraft systems otherwise known as drones all large events bring unauthorized drone activity into those event areas once a pilot sees a drone or once atc visually or with the radar sees a drone all traffic will come to a halt at that airport and this has happened at many events that are located close to airports these are the issues only these issues are the ones i address and concern me the airline pilots association and all pilots and i believe they should concern the passengers than entrust their lives to professional pilots that fly the airplanes thank you for your time and please reach out to us if you have any other questions or concerns about this issue thank you thank you very much appreciate it next up is speaker number 76 andrew velasco speaker number 76 andrew velasco nope okay speaker number 77 chris amalathas speaker number 78 brandon ortega brandon ortega speaker number 79 i definitely know matthew kapalbi yeah come on up please please state your name place of residence you have three minutes to address the council good evening mayor and council my name is matthew capalbi i reside in flagstaff arizona and i represent the southwest regional council of carpenters and i'm here to piggyback on some of the comments my colleague bill ruiz made previously and again uh mayor it's a pleasure to be here and uh regarding the previous uh speaker's comments you do run a very tight ship on the meetings i appreciate that thank you um first of all uh i'd like to speak on our experience the southwest regional council carpenters was instrumental in in las vegas and clark county nevada regarding the raiders stadium and the raiders move myself being somewhat left-leaning never thought it'd be in the same room with sheldon adelson but i was the billionaire owner of many of the casinos there and uh we worked very closely with his organization as well as the raiders clark county the city of las vegas in facilitating a community benefits agreement that worked for everyone the work for the raiders that worked for clark county that worked for the workforce as well as the businesses that would benefit and i forwarded to councilwoman qb earlier a copy of the community benefits agreement that was negotiated with raiders the adelson organization and labor uh as well as the state and county and it was very very good it's an excellent document i suggest you use it as a template to follow it was definitely hurting cats if you've ever had the to deal with casino owners trust me this is a cakewalk too so we actually look forward to working with every organization possible to address the concerns that you've heard from unite here our brothers and sisters in that organization as well as many of the residents and such we want to see those concerns addressed we don't want to be a no we want to be a partner we want to find that conduit that works for everyone and one thing in particular to us too often we hear lip service when it comes to workforce development a lot of people talk about it but when it comes to actual policy and policy implementation we don't see it this is an opportunity to make sure that we use this project to train the workforce needed here in the state of arizona and throughout this this region so i think an apprenticeship requirement using this as a training ground for that technical certified workforce that we need is a great opportunity and we work we look forward to working with all the parties involved to make sure that we develop a necessary consensus among all the stakeholders to uh to make sure we move this forward in an appropriate fashion so uh thank you very much and uh we look forward to working with you more excellent thank you so much man appreciate it next up we have uh speaker 80 kelly marie is she out of the virtual room mr marin no okay she's gone all right all right so i'll need to get speakers 81-85 queued up speaker number 81 is darlene justice please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you mr mayor vice mayor and council members this is a really important meeting this is a really important decision that you all have to make i want to thank you for previous decisions that you've made regarding tempe town lake light rail streetcar neighborhood circulators papago park reserve historic preservation of all our great assets and that also for home tom for all and mr mayor for the 50 percent development fees that go for affordable housing i don't think everyone in here knows about that we have four or five locations on apache that are going to be just it's tempe property is going to be developed into affordable housing i commend you very much for that also for supporting our police and adding new police recently i'm concerned with some of the rhetoric that has been sent out to everybody i'm disappointed with words like secret closed-door meetings being gamed implying that today's meeting is just under the guise of an open meeting i know better than that i also know that you haven't been meeting with people until now is the time to consider if you're going to go forward with those meetings and to make some decisions i'm a long time resident of tempe and i'm very concerned also with the heavy-handed threats from phoenix sky harbor i am very concerned i i am for safety of sky harbor i'm for safety of tempe i'm really concerned when they start talking about pulling back our iga we fought for years to get that iga if we had not had that sky harbor phoenix sky harbor not arizona sky harbor not maricopa sky harbor phoenix sky harbor would have turned planes directly over our neighborhoods like they did going to the west over historic homes and that along grand avenue so that iga does protect us but we've also seen in documents that certain housing can be there if it is mitigated if the sound has been mitigated the iga is to protect was to protect single-family residents and multi-family residents it had already been built and the sky harbor was expanding and when they expand we were getting more and more noise and that things are better because we have planes that are less noisy that has helped contours have changed but there are provisions i'm not saying just go forward with this but i'm trying to get some of the facts out but i know i don't know everything you guys have the access to staff that can get things done if you need to hire somebody else to look at something please do that but i know you're going to make the right decision i'm really happy hearing all the hockey people talk about the different things for youth for gay youth for for the wet veterans and that we have a huge opportunity we don't want to lose the opportunity but is this the right place you guys are the one they're going to have to decide that thank you very much thank you so much appreciate it okay uh speaker number 82 was it was actually a duplicate was brendan walsh so i know he already see here [Laughter] speaker number 83 is summer baker please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you mayor woods and council members for holding this session it's very important that we get community feedback for things like this so i'm just really glad that you have given us this opportunity um i wish all of the city council meetings were had this much detention but um i first want to say that i grew up going to coyotes games and doing sports myself so i know the importance of having athletics in your life but i do have kind of a few issues with this deal the developers say that this would come at no expense to the taxpayers however they want to this project wants to include the government property lease x tax taxes um i don't think this developer deserves any property tax breaks um our tempe home owner is going to get that tax break too that would be great um so i don't support this for a couple reasons so as someone mentioned earlier this contract is coming out from a failed deal that they had with the city of glendale which resulted in the 1.3 million dollars in the um in uh delinquent taxes um and that might have been from a a human error that was made on on their behalf but still this is a business decision to consider several coyotes own employees claim a toxic work place environment with others claiming delinquent bills and unpaid debts were a reoccurring theme with several vendors complaining they had either not been paid or pressured to accept a significantly reduced portion that was owed for them for services and or goods and i see these both being red flags for financial risks that would hurt businesses here in tempe and finally this arena is going to increase traffic like a lot of other people have talked about pollution are already limited water usage it would increase taxes through other hidden usage they want to have a six percent surcharge they said on all activities there so that just increases the prices there which um not really four and this would increase our our homelessness population just having the homeless people that are coming in from scottsdale and then seeing that there's this big um this big business here so that they can see that as a potential target to kind of hang around and and whatnot so i can see an increase in that and then and a decrease in our skyline that we kind of are already don't have um and i want to just kind of piggyback off of what the aviation representative from california said i think this council should consider the priority and having this project be built where it is kind of interferes with the safety of sky harbor so that should be something that we should really consider and just really quick um there's a a composting yard that already exists in that area and as of recently you have to pay for it now but it used to be free but temporary residents could go there and get mulch for free which kind of incentivized people to have their own gardens and to just be sustainable in that way and having this project would take that away so and i know the um the phoenix zoo uses it for their ways too and it actually creates really good mulch for gardening and stuff so i would hate to see that go away because it is a very viable tool for the community so i want to thank you for your time thank you so much appreciate it um next up is speaker 84 dustin graphious is that correct please state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council uh my name is dustin graphious i live in tempe i lived in the valley for 25 years or so now and i just keep seeing traffic get worse and worse and i'm just worried that this is going to add more traffic and we don't seem to add more roads in tempe which makes sense we're out of room um and we just keep adding bike lanes that nobody uses so personally i would rather see you you know focus more on making the city better for the people that live here versus giving tax breaks to uh big business so thank you so much appreciate it let me also knock next up queue up speakers 85 to 90 85 to 90.

speaker number 85 is melissa andrews please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council thank you mayor thank you council for letting me speak today my name is melissa andrews i've been a season ticket member for the coyotes for the last five years i'm also one of six admins for a facebook fan group which we have over 6 000 members i want to give you a personal account sorry i want to give you a personal account regarding the sport of hockey and the coyotes and what they mean to me i can speak for myself and pretty much every other hockey fan when i say hockey belongs in the state of arizona and hockey belongs in tempe i love all sports and i'm very loyal to all arizona teams will maybe not all of them minus u of a because i'm a sun devil that's that's fair it wasn't until i attended my first hockey game that i realized how amazing this sport is this game is the fastest most exciting and will leave you on the edge of your seat i've never seen anything like it going to all 41 games season after season this is my way of life this is my getaway from the everyday life of being just a family law paralegal i have the privilege because of hockey to have met some of my very best friends players and even the owner of the team we are let me tell you we are a different type of people we are the most passionate most loyal and most dedicated the odds even when the odds have been stacked against us we're still fighting we're still here and we are a family i come to you today as a fan of this team and a fan of the sport in general the sport of hockey has grown in our state at a rapid pace and it's not stopping anytime soon the more this organization grows the more they will do for the community the arizona coyotes foundation and us fans have donated so much time and money to our communities around the state and different cities the boys and girls club children's hospitals special olympics youth hockey programs schools local food banks and many minority owned businesses excuse me fans from all over the country and even like not just in the state but everywhere will be coming in to tempe if you approve this and spending their hard-earned money and drive up the revenue for nearby hotels restaurants and yes even the airlines i have talked to several tempe business owners in my research of this issue many of them say they have taken a major hit because of the pandemic and they have stated to me that if this project gets approved it could be just what is needed to revitalize tempe and keep their businesses going i'd also like to address the reputation of mr alex morello one thing i know about mr morello is you tell him he can't and he will make it work he will make it successful and he only continues to show that even with all the misinformation about him out there him and his team are dedicated to keeping hockey in arizona for example he secured our coyotes partnership with arizona state university i'll give you about 30 seconds to wrap you up so but you know i'm just going to leave it at that um that voting our voting has to continue negotiations would be in the best interest of tempi and growing our game and the state so thank you for giving me an opportunity i appreciate it thank you so much all right uh speaker number 86 was uh supervisor mary rose wilcox who had to leave earlier but she was here next up is speaker number 87 philip yates oh there's good to see you mr yates please come forward to say your name place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council the record my name is philip yates and i'm the president for the riverside neighborhood association i have quite a few reservations about this particular proposal there are i mean this is right next to a residential area this is riverside and sunset they are a residential area and we already have flight issues and noise issues right above our neighborhood everybody in this neighborhood seems to be very very opposed to anything of this magnitude that would be [Music] it will increase the the noise in this area also the traffic i don't know if anybody's driven up and down priest or rio salado during rush hour it's pretty bad already it's pretty bad and i think that something of this magnitude would definitely increase that issue that problem no question about it also people coming in and out and going out of tempe that have visited or are coming to visit the city of tempe will miss flights they're not going to make it to the airport on time to catch their flight our neighborhood its and its traffic are going to be um heavily hit by new traffic of uh people coming in and out of our neighborhoods just our neighborhoods alone um none of my friends none of my family are liking this proposal at all we really are against it uh i was really kind of relieved to hear the faa come in and say they were against it and also the sky harper saying the same thing that they were against this uh proposal um the rents are going to increase there's no question about that either it's uh riverside and sunset they are affordable areas and they would be compromised people will move out because they simply can't afford to live there anymore if we decide to proceed with negotiations tonight which is what we are here to do is to decide whether or not to pursue pursue these negotiations then i think that neighborhoods such as riverside and sunset need to be taken into consideration definitely what can we do to help them us i'd like to thank you for your time excellent thank you mr yates appreciate it next up is speaker number 88 greg ford please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council good now evening thank you very much i'm greg ford i currently just moved to gilbert but i was a resident mesa for about 20 years approximately i know there's been a lot of talk about uh what this is going to do to sky harbor and that kind of thing i also work at sky harbor airport for tsa and i've been there for almost 20 years and have been subject as with tsa we have been actually threatened by sky harbor to if we can't get passengers through within a certain time certain time frame that kind of thing they threaten to they've threatened to privatize us because there's a privatization i'm not going to go into that but there's a way that they can privatize ts the screening at scott harbor and that kind of thing to me this is a no-brainer for the city of tempe my understanding is i'm a little nervous i'm never publicly spoken so i apologize my understanding there is no financial outlay for the city of tempe initially and it doesn't hurt to vote on looking at the perspective issues that will be will come up um will there be issues more than likely but i believe that both parties tempe phoenix everybody can agree on issues and come to an agreement then on a financial district that will benefit everybody not only just the coyotes but the city of tempe city phoenix and arizona in general thank you very much thank you so much appreciate it if i can also now uh cue up speakers 90 to 96 and if you hear i'm not using a typical round number it's because 96 is the end of my cards so speakers 90 to 96 if you could get queued up that would be great but speaker number 89 is uriah lerner uriah lerner is uriah lerner available all right speaker number 90 jacob kirby is is jacob kirby here no okay um speaker number 91 elizabeth vanuelos elizabeth manuelas no okay i think this one is a duplicate i believe magdalena morris i believe that's that's dupli from earlier i think let me just i just want to make sure just to be um can anyone confirm that for me i just want to make sure i'm not i'm not skipping her and i'm not misremembering something here i don't think so well let's just say magdalena morris are you here okay yeah i think that was a duplicate uh the next card is speaker number 93 jonathan taylor sir all right please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council well first of all thanks for having me uh my name is jonathan taylor i'm president of scottsdale currently but i'm an arizona native born and raised i spent four years at arizona state graduated in 2020.

uh my hairline is already going the wrong way and obviously this is very political uh a german i guess i don't know the vocabulary uh but i'm not very much a political person no offense uh it's uh i'd say my hairlines would go in the wrong direction for a while uh but i kind of just want to come here and show like a personal experience obviously there's the people that have the impact of the airport and then there's the economic benefits that the coyotes can offer but as a kid who played at hockey in arizona my whole entire life i looked up to shane doan he was a role model for me uh just interacting with the rink i'm sure he doesn't remember me but i remember him i was eight years old he inspired me to want to be a better person i mean he's a role model in our community i don't know if you don't know he doesn't curse he's a saint uh he's a family man he's given back uh and my thing is if you look at what he's done for the people in our community that that's what's really the impact here is it's the kids you know if you look at lindsay frye i'm sorry or austin matthews two great people that arizona should be very proud of we have one of the best goal scorers in the nhl right now is an arizona native seti went to asu if you didn't take other career paths to get to the nhl like it's those kind of peoples that we're just ignoring if we don't allow the coyotes to thrive and succeed in the heart of our city um and i like lindsay frye an olympian from arizona but played ice hockey she's done i'm sure you've worked with what thousands of females young women just developing them into being teammates players athletes uh really showing them all things they can do so i took a bunch of notes but like i said i don't want to get into politics because quite frankly i don't really know but i just think that it's it's vital that the coyotes have a place to stay i think tempe is the perfect place for them i i truly believe uh we've had some bad years as coyotes fans but there's no uh there's no pleasure without pain in the name of love that's all i got to say thank you thank you miss taylor that was clearly the line of the night so i can't stop that i'm going to go home right now all right next up is speaker number 94 kathryn mancini please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council hi good evening i'm catherine mancini um i live in tempe arizona i'm a lifelong tempe resident for the most part i've lived about half my life in downtown tempe and i would like to echo some of the sentiments that i'm hearing in the neighborhood here in downtown tempe that number one we are concerned about safety i am also a safety professional i'm still working the pandemic it's not over yet unfortunately i wish it was and i would like to echo any comments that the faa has made this evening i've listened to them very carefully since about three o'clock this afternoon and we must be concerned with safety tempe has always been talking about how we always must be concerned about safety we spend a lot of money on our police force so there's an obvious reason and i know council member navarro understands about safety as well so that is my main focus for this evening is that we must consider safety we cannot have a healthy community if we do not have healthy economics and part of that is also focus so my second point this evening is the focus on our residents and how this is going to impact them it's great that we can have professional sports and live sports available unfortunately live sports is now only really accessible to those who are privileged in the meantime we have lost our focus we have a lot of people in tempe that are suffering in downtown our rents have doubled in downtown tempe and that is can be factually checked that is not uh me being uh extra over burdening about that but yes they have and we must focus on those who do not have homes in our city and those who are going to be having to leave our city because of economic reasons so therefore i implore you to consider safety and our economic situation here in tempe and continue to focus on the most vulnerable i love the coyotes i love hockey i even met wayne gretzky when i was in my 20s he was a cool guy i just want us to consider that we do hockey later and possibly in another location thank you so much thank you so much spencini next up is speaker number 95 zachary powell zachary powell are you here and my last speaker card speaker number 96 jude bazin please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council i live in mesa and i work in tempe for the university or at the university for aramark the coyote stadium will make it more difficult for me to find affordable housing and make sure i can pay my rent okay the coyote stadium concerns me because it affects me again tempe deserves the best please say no to the coyotes today difficulty i work from 2 to 10 pm and finding a ride home is difficult i take the train at night and i'm concerned that it'll be harder to get home when there are games yes thank you thank you appreciate it is there anyone else in the audience this evening wishing to address the city council on this item mr palmer please come forward and state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council yes my name is tim palmer i'm a 59-year resident of tempe and my family brought me here in late november of 1963 so i have vague memories of the kennedy assassination but i have very clear memories of what tempe was like in the early 60s it was dusty dirt roads um cotton fields citrus orchards cattle ranches and i remember riding my bicycle down you know mill avenue to where it ended at baseline and um i was in the boonies but what i want to say first and foremost is that one thing i haven't heard discussed here tonight is how the city of tempe is going to manage this and i don't know where the money's coming from or how this is going to be achieved but i just would like to relate one um experience i had this past uh halloween night when i took made the choice to go down the bridge into downtown tempe on halloween night and the traffic came to a complete halt and i sat and watched eight lights go before i could even get down to the bridge and rio salado it concerned me because of the safety of the entire bridge being filled up with cars and i didn't i complained to one of you and my res and the response i got was well why would you even attempt to go down mill avenue on halloween night so i'm very concerned about the safety in tempe i'm a one-issue person i believe strongly in traffic safety and traffic safety is going at a snail's pace at this town and i haven't heard anything tonight about how this city is going to be managed with this kind of development and i want to say that i am a 25-year uh career individual in the commercial design field so i look at all the glory of what this development is and i look at and i say i'm somewhat in favor of this but i'm concerned that the city is not going to be able to manage much longer under these circumstances and some of you might know i'm a sports fan so i probably would likely attend a hockey game and i really would like to see um the city managed well and i don't see it happening and one of the things i do remember for about 30 years is that the city of tempe has been fighting with the city of phoenix over sky harbor airport and here we are again back in back in the the trenches battling sky harbor airport and i'd like to see for once that tempe could get along with the city of phoenix so i'd like you guys to figure out how to manage the city and if you got to raise taxes do it thank you thank you mr farmer appreciate it is there anyone else in the audience wishing to address the city council get my attention yes sir please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the city council good evening uh my name is matthew jacobson from el mirage arizona really regret saying that publicly but whatever i suppose i really kind of thinking of what i would say all day and honestly it would just come off as potentially emotionally manipulative being oh you know heartstrings i love the coyotes whatever also that man over there shane doane is a saint but realistically speaking hockey can change lives sports live sports from the youth to the professionals real world impacts on top of that tax dollars and revenue from people coming flying in for different places especially canada as a hardcore fan of this team for so long canadians really are a lifeblood of this organization and this team thank you very much anyone watching and please just consider the proposal just go to negotiations worst case scenario it doesn't work out you tried right thank you absolutely thank you appreciate it anyone else wishing to address the city council please get my attention yes sir please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council alrighty i didn't plan on speaking oh i'm sorry my name is tyler meisterheim i live in glendale i used to actually live in tempe for a little bit everyone's faced it sometimes the drive to the games does suck so my girlfriend and i decided to move across the street from westgate not even two weeks later the coyotes announced they were going back to tempe i rolled over in bed said hey guess what we're moving back to tempe [Laughter] [Applause] and you know we might we might but the hockey community has been great i'm also one of the admins melissa was back there she was up here earlier one of the admins for our coyotes page we have over 6 000 members on there we're in full support we've seen what happens at westgate it is a great place to be during games um trying to think of what else to say i didn't plan on speaking um donor the acardo family lindsay frye javier gutierrez the owner i've had a pleasure meeting all of them they want nothing but the best not for just this team but for tempe they've already donated so much money to asu go devils um yeah that's all i really have to say is i don't see what you guys have to lose it's all you're doing is going back there and talking about it i see why yes it wouldn't hurt just to talk thank you thank you so much is anyone else in the audience wishing to address the city council please get my attention yes please please come forward state your name in place of residence you have three minutes to address the council this evening good evening my name is elena jacobson i'm also from el mirage arizona and i wanted to let you know that i am an asu student however i choose to take my classes online because we can't really do the drive over here however if the coyotes choose to move tempe and we approve this and we build it we would be driving almost every single game over here from el mirage the 41 miles or whatever it is more than happy to give you our business our time our tax dollars everything so i implore you to approve this so you can get my dollars my husband's dollars a lot of it's money so thank you thank you appreciate it thank you so much is there anyone else in the audience wishing to address the city council please get my attention all right i'll ask one more time anyone else in the audience wishing to address the city council before i close this portion of the agenda all right seeing none that concludes all of the live speakers now i have the written comments 228.

i'm going to start reading uh my uh colleagues have very generously offered to relieve me if my voice begins to go at some point no real oh they didn't okay okay a couple of my colleagues offered to help me not all six um all right here let's go uh first first one here is from john john nunez from tempe arizona i wish to register my opposition to the hockey center development owners have repeatedly demonstrated they are not financially responsible traffic is already at an all-time high will create a bigger divide between north tempe and tempe we'll put tempe at odds with the faa tempe can't afford it next one i have lance labun from tempe looking many years into the future i do not believe that a professional ice hockey arena is the best use of space in tempe looking five to ten years of the future how many people are going to be able to afford to travel to sporting events either from out of town or from across the valley without people attending the events the hotels and restaurants will generate little tax revenue for the city tempe has done a good job of having a diverse tax base and the tempe town lake was a brilliantly creative use of a unique resource on the other hand when tempe has tried to follow other cities such as building a performing arts center the results have not been beneficial to the community in the case of the performing arts center neighboring cities already have them and so tempe came late it is not competing effectively for audiences the time for local governments to help professional sporting teams has passed tempe has been a leader many times let's not be a follower on sports venues next yes make a suggestion what if we just read those from tempe because who live in tempe well i think you should read them all this one i mean i've already kind of communicated to the clerk that they were all going to get ready so i want to make sure i'm being consistent so okay so thank you i appreciate it um next up is arthur vigil from phoenix arizona uh comments here not in favor of the hockey development the area around the airport is already crowded the stadium should be located in an area that is directly adjacent to a light rail station these stadiums do not generate business as everyone imagines they are more reliability long-term the entire tempe town lake area is over developed with corporate users that that it feels like a suburban office park rather than a true neighborhood these big developments are all missing the element of quality neighborhoods that people enjoy tempe town lake should be the center of convivial activity but despite the large projects it's relatively dead and lifeless this stadium away from light rail will only be a traffic nightmare money would be better spent creating quality complete neighborhoods that everyone will enjoy especially those who are not hockey fans the community needs quality neighborhoods for everyday life next up is samantha baskin from tempe i would like to city council to consider the tax implications of welcoming the coyotes history to tempe the owner of the organization does not have a historically great track record of working with the city where the team resides it must be ensured that the coyotes pay a fair city tax because bringing the organization to tempe will require major infrastructure enhancements and other burdens to the city if they cannot commit to that then i would ask the city council not allow them to bring their business to tempe next one is from niles wright from tempe i'm in favor of the proposed hockey center development as a longtime resident i support projects that enhance our city and bring much needed tax revenue to our community i would also like to request that careful consideration be given to any impact on the environment and residents in the immediate area next up is dale brandt from tempe i would love to have a professional hockey team nearby in tempe i attend the coyote games before they moved to glendale i never went to a hockey game in glendale due to the time it takes to travel there i plan on attending the games at asu next season next up is james appleton from tempe as a homeowner in north tempe on the north side of tempe town lake arizona native and someone whose family worked on the coyotes project in the late 90s to locate the team to los arcos instead of glendale seeing another opportunity present itself to place the team an accompanying business on this side of town is tremendous the good that this business entertainment district offices and housing that will be brought into our neighborhoods is much needed and heavily supported by those in the area this is our second chance to finally get this right for the long haul as a property owner voter and taxpayer in the immediate impacted area this is the type of thing i want my representatives to champion and push for making a reality this team has been involved in the youth community working with schools and boys and girls clubs to get kids active and engaged in the sport they host their own youth skating and hockey lessons their players take the time to talk to every child excited about them and that is never forgotten we have the chance to better our kids lives by putting them right in the heart of our city please keep these impacts in mind when considering the business proposals next one is from richard wasser from phoenix arizona as a tempe business owner i am in full support of the proposed arena and related development at priest in rio salado it will be a great addition to the city and provide jobs and economic development in the next one is from ryan fiedler from tempe arizona i would like to voice my concern about the proposal to build a hockey stadium at priest in rio salado i believe it will negatively and significantly impact traffic in the area i also believe that the economic cost of building a stadium with public funds will outweigh the benefit the city of glendale learned this through experience and hopefully tempe will not repeat the mistakes of that city thank you for hearing my concerns next one is from courtney borman from tempe arizona with all the places available at rio salado to the east of rural to the 101 wouldn't it be a better location over by the old karsten golf course or north of the 202 where the soccer stadium was easy access to the 101 and 202.

next one is from jay schroederer from tempe i oppose the development of a hockey arena for two reasons first professional sports over the years have priced out most people particularly families from attending games with the success with a successful team playoff games ticket prices are untouchable for most professional sports by and large are for the elite and as a tempe resident i would prefer land use to be for activities that are accessible to all secondly the coyote organization does not have a good track record and sadly has a poor reputation next one is from jordan lowe from gilbert this district would further cement tempe as the heart of the valley outside of regular business use there is a need for a district like the one to propose to attract people for events and in general to spend dollars in the city the arizona coyotes have a dedicated ownership group that is dedicated to providing a facility and community center piece that will be funded privately you could not allow the city of phoenix to scare and fabricate numbers in their best interests it's time for tempe to stand up and partner with the right group and the right project this is the one a perfect end cap to an already amazing lake district that is a gilbert resident i can't wait to visit often maybe one day my son who was arizona born will be a coyote and follow in josh stone and austin matthews leading scorer and mvp footsteps next one is from leslie clock from tempe as a tempe resident amateur hockey player and hockey fan i think that a professional hockey arena and other accompanying businesses like hotels and restaurants would be great for tempe's economy and culture having an nhl team would really put tempe on the map many of my friends and i have gone to very few coyotes games in the past because the venue has been so far away the proximity of a venue in tempe would allow east valley residents to see many more hockey games it would be ideal if the coyotes could subsidize some of the money that goes into building an arena so that the burden does not fall solely on taxpayers shoulders considering that the coyotes currently don't have a home i feel like tempe get has some bargaining power a hockey arena can also be used for other entertainment events as well which should help to generate income next one is from selena coleman from tempe arizona i want to express my full and enthusiastic support for the city to proceed with negotiations with bluebird development llc on behalf of morello group in the arizona coyotes the prospect of hosting a major sports franchise in tempe is an exciting one and will hopefully revitalize the mill avenue district which has been losing popularity and appeal for years tempe is a perfect destination for the coyotes being centrally located in the valley and its proximity to the airport for welcoming away team visitors tempe would see huge economic and tax benefits from this something which has been sorely lacking with the massive development projects by asu and their many exemptions for municipal taxes as a homeowner in tempe and a parent of two young children i see this as a great development for the city and would happily purchase season tickets once this project comes to fruition i encourage council to vote yes of this proposal to move forward with the negotiations next card is from nolan williams from tempe arizona this opportunity is outlined in the original rfp could be very good for both parties involved for tempe there's an opportunity to have a major sports arena much needed housing new jobs and a huge inflow of funds for from hometown for all our city's best initiative thank you nolan um all for relatively very small capital costs the city should take this deal and negotiate hard with the understanding that new businesses and new people living in our city are worthwhile and in of themselves traffic concerns are overblown as they always are and as someone who spent time in the immediate area it is all the parking anyone could ever ask for next one is ethan thomas howley from tempe arizona i live in northwest tempe close to the proposed side of the hockey arena i would not like to see this built in my neighborhood and extremely opposed to any tax breaks or incentives being given to the developers our neighborhood is composed of many lower income families close proximity to a sports arena would encourage predatory property practices like airbnb to increase in displaced residents next one is from molly briggs from tempe arizona i'm a resident of maple ash and i do not want the city council to continue negotiations with the coyotes i did not support the further development on the riverfront i want the city to invest its time energy and resources towards parks schools and revitalizing mill avenue which is a disabled dirty and drunken strip of debauchery it's a lot of d's uh i do not think the core the coyotes corporate values reflect the city's commitment to diversity and more forward-thinking wholesome principles i've been to the current glendale stadium which is a ghost town of dilapidated and empty restaurants huge unused ugly parking lots and filler box stores this is not what we want for our beautiful unique tempe community finally the city has not has not thought traffic through these small neighboring streets and the stadium would completely exacerbate the problem please reject this proposal and focus on what residents want good parks walkable streets a vibrant arts and music scene cleaned up streets with adequate housing for the homeless and strong schools next up is stephen luttrell from tempe arizona having a professional sports franchise in tempe would only enhance the good image that the city has cultivated over the years the benefit to surrounded retail businesses also goes without saying next one is william fox from tempe arizona i strongly support proceeding to a formal negotiation phase for the professional hockey arena development project this project will almost certainly attract many visitors to tempe and increase tax revenue over the long run communities like nashville columbus and raleigh have greatly benefited from hosting an nhl franchise it would be a shame to further investigate to shape to further investigate this attractive opportunity thank you next one is from uh sam campana from from scottsdale mayor and members of the council we in scottsdale had the opportunity to have the coyotes in scottsdale over 20 years ago a citizens initiative kept it from happening i believe then as did a majority of the council and still do that the arena would have been a big value added to our southern reaches now sky song sits in that site a most welcome addition too but we could have had both the large property to the west is now just going to be dense although also needed high-rise living in the right location not isolated from its fan base as it was in glendale it will be added value to your community i wish you and your citizens every success former mayor sam campana next one is from ronnie soo lee from tempe arizona i'm a neighborhood association chair in northeast tempe regarding large developments in tempe my concerns lie and how much the developers will contribute to our radical pivot and tempe towards one having enough affordable housing including for lower wage workers two installing many more protected bike lanes for commuters three having a very robust public transit system that encourages fewer cars and tempe roads includes more stops and stations for shorter walks supports the transit needs of those who don't have cars and those work work night shifts and offers protection from the heat at each stop heavy investments in these should be a requirement for every developer in tempe we are far too behind to take a mild moderate approach to environmental damage and affordable housing issues those who come to tempe to make large profits must help tempe accelerate um let's help accelerate tempe's ability to address these thank you i'll read a couple more then i'll pass i'll get to 25 here next one is john malone from tempe i'm a long time resident of tempe and very proud of tempe and feel that it has led the way on very progressive projects over the years town lake development light rail streetcar etc i feel the building of the hockey arena and entertainment center is another very positive opportunity for the city that will enhance our city in many ways as always there are pros and cons with the new project but i see this project as having many long-term benefits for the city with very little downside if any i am 100 in favor of building a hockey arena entertainment center in tempe thank you next one is from barb harris from tempe hoping the council strongly considers traffic issues this project could create the area is not designed for that amount of traffic and would impact many residents living within a few blocks we recognize that it is often overlooked that many of us live in the downtown lake area but this project would have a very detrimental impact on our properties and quality of life due to the traffic jams that will be created next one is from jennifer jennifer mcvaugh from tempe hello please do not allow the arizona hockey team to call tempe home they are proven poor business partners and we would like to keep the team out of our town thank you next one is from kurt quarter from tempe i'm writing to the council in support of a yes decision by the council to proceed to formal negotiation on the proposal by the morello group and arizona coyotes to build a professional hockey arena hotels offices retail and residential on city land i was very supportive of the mayor and council's decision to solicit ideas to maximize the benefit of the currently underutilized city-owned property near the west end of town lake and while the city will have ample opportunity to negotiate the best possible outcome for the city and residents like myself the proposal received provides an excellent vision for a mixed-use development that would provide more market rate housing shopping sports and entertainment having the arizona coyotes anchored the development would be an excellent addition to the entire valley east valley which is currently lacking in local access to high-level sporting events next one is from marion durham from tempe tempe residents need affordable housing for working families not a multi-million dollar sports facility we do not need financial linkage to a developer and sports team owner whose reputation in history has been less than ideal for paying his bills taxes and fulfilling signed agreements tempe voters and taxpayers do not need the burden of facility which will continue to cost us money which will create traffic issues and will not bring in the resources needed by the residents who live near the proposed building site we need grocery stores medical providers and long-term high-wage employers we do not need the coyotes next is brian humphries from phoenix arizona for the record i am in full support of the coyotes hockey arena in tempe our family loves hockey and would look forward to attending mini games in tempe it seems like a win-win to me for reviewing everything i've seen so far please get it done tempe next one's from aaron lloyd from phoenix arizona the arizona coyotes are an important part of our community the coyotes will bring jobs and economic viability to a current landfill it is hard to imagine a better project than this that will bring people from all over the valley to tempe i strongly support the coyotes development project and want a yes vote for arizona coyotes the valley and tempe please share my support with the mayor and council with the public meeting on june 2nd 2022 the coyotes have shown they are committed to tempe through their partnership with asu and it is time for tempe to return the favor and allow the team to move forward with this amazing project as a father with young kids i look forward to bringing them to games and other events in tempe for years to come next up is guy fitty from phoenix arizona there's a wealth of information the council is privy to that i am not so i can not only assess from the perspective i can only assess this from the perspective of someone who reads the news with one exception that i believe can be successfully worked out all the points seem to favor going ahead with the project all private money additional revenue for the city additional residential commercial retail and entertainment options for everyone in the valley all wins for the city traffic on game nights is the one point i'm unsure of but i don't see it as being so extreme that it negates the aforementioned advantages personally i'd like to see a parking structure as part of the project apart from whatever parking the commercial residential developments may have packed on game nights it may still be useful for the retail sector on non-game days obviously it should be paid parking to offset the cost of construction and maintenance game fans are already used to a 10 to 15 game charge for parking so this won't be anything new to them one of the considerations should be to not unduly affect traffic at asu property for me i'd be taking light rail to any games i might go to seems like an easy decision to me but as i said you have more information than i do okay i'll do another couple here and i'll be and i'm going to pass it um next one is from michael hansen from tempe i'm in support of this arena i do not feel the developer is asking for any unnecessary public money i worry if we pass on this that the developer will move the project to nearby salt river reservation and we will have all the headaches and none of the benefits thank you next one is lindsey steinberg from phoenix i'm currently a resident of phoenix arizona soon to become a tempe resident of the fall i've been a lifelong coyotes fan and i believe i can speak for many when i say the coyotes would thrive in tempe and also help tempe thrive even further as a city not only do they plan on building a rink but an entire entertainment district pair this with arizona state university and the college students it will give way for major profits across the city as well as add many jobs to the area to help the cause even further as stated by the arizona coyotes themselves this development is privately funded and is going to help turn nothing into a tempe landmark with that i urge the council to work with the arizona coyotes to allow them to go through the develop with the development of the entertainment district and rink and this one's from justin kolich from tempe arizona i personally would love an nhl arena in tempe as a recent graduate with an engineering degree i think it would be another great reason to attract people to tempe for games as most of the population based lives of the southeast valley i'm happy to pay more in taxes for this to be accomplished as well i think the arena would be pivotal in growing the game of hockey in the state of arizona as well as new fans would be attracted to a new arena with an exciting team all right who wants to take some okay i will give you uh this back here all right that's cool thank you vice mayor all right everybody i'm not the strongest public reader and i'm terrible in names so this might add a lot to my blooper reel um the first comment is from jana gerniel uh hockey proposal my concern is my concern is the coyotes build is for their financial reputation in history with their previous host city what went wrong last time what could go wrong again what are the warning signs to mitigate and take action so that tempe is protected and finally a concern for loss of tax revenues with the build i am not anti-development if done smart and and it considers the impact of surrounding residential areas and overall city benefit next comment is from mary jane bricka the proposed hockey complex in rio salado is that it oh excuse me um i'm in favor of the complex traffic issues need to be addressed can a trolley type thing or something like like a sky train be built to connect the light rail across the river to the complex also is it a way to connect mill avenue in the light rail or and the trolley there this would help bring lots of people the rest of tempe's entertainment district next comment is from alkia victor and the comments are yes to proceed with to discuss the project i like that one um next comment is owen grundle that no one says oh my lord uh owen wrote a lot uh i didn't deliberately you did this on purpose i know you did i've been a coyotes fan my entire life 20 years now and i've been through all the highs and lows way more lows and highs while supporting this franchise i never felt more confident in our ownership group we have people who care for us as fans and the team in general youth hockey in arizona is blossoming every year kids are intrigued by the sport and want to have a reason to watch i grew up watching the coyotes because i love hockey but i learned that i love hockey in arizona even more i love the community and environment we've created we are inclusive we are diverse and we're trying to elevate the sport in a state on a yearly basis with new programs for all types of people this is the first time i've ever felt this team could go anywhere as a fan it's my job to support them but as a person i have to be a realist and as a realist it's been it's been really damn hard supporting a franchise while they've been in glendale tempe you've changed tempe you are the change we've needed you've given me and countless other fans hope we have an owner that has intentions not only just making our lives better but better for the city of tempe and its residents i love to be able to drive 15 minutes to westgate to support the coyotes considering i live in peoria but this time i'm done i am done being content with westgate and the situation the coyotes are put in i want to drive 35 minutes to tempe i want to be able to spend my money and my time in your beautiful city and i want to do i want to have a reason to do it 41 times a year this team has done has so much going for them and as a fan base we really care tempe please please as an arizona as an arizonan as a sports fan as a lifelong coyotes fan this is everything to me your decision will impact my life in a massive way no matter what you decide on but please understand you're giving people like me and thousands others across the state some hope i don't want to worry about where my team will be next year i don't want to worry where my team will be playing i want them to play in tempe arizona and being able to track fans from all over arizona not just one select part tempe please everyone reading this everyone reading this please this team is everything to me and i know i'm not alone when i'm saying that make the right decision for your city and as trajectory make the right decision for the coyotes and their die hard fan base make the right decision for arizona by voting yes again he's addressing me directly if you're reading this thank you for the opportunity and i hope you make the right decision it's very very nice uh next is from chris lane president of phoenix and he writes i believe the arizona coyotes are essential to bring the community of greater phoenix together and believe that this arena will be an asset to the city of tempe for many years to come carol ann hagman of tempe writes dear council members i respectfully request the city council declined the proposal of the developer to build a hockey arena the owner left the city of glendale with a financial mess the city of tempe and residents should not allow it to happen a second time we live with one of the highest inflation rates in the country we should be fiscally responsible and not deal with a high-risk situation in addition the traffic the area is already overburdened let's make matters let's not make matters worse kind regards carol hagen next is trent hess of arizona he says please vote yes this is good for tempe dump the dump build the ted make that to a hashtag alec bushman of gilbert writes the city of tempe should agree to build the coyote stadium it's a massively popular area and will only bring business to the city i've tried to go to 10 games a year in glendale but the commute during rush hour on weeknights made it very difficult i know i speak for myself my family and this community when i say the coyotes being in tempe would be huge for them and the city the coyotes have plenty of loyal fans a majority of whom live in the east valley i know that i and many others will convert to season ticket holders and spend our money at the stadium and in the city of tempe should you give the coyotes a home there fletcher hickey of tempe arizona writes as a tempe resident i'm cautiously optimistic about the prospect of the coyotes moving to tempe i am a hockey fan and a casual player so i've seen firsthand the amount of work these owners have put into growing the game supporting youth and specifically women's hockey in the valley i do not support a blank check given to the team and their financial issues are well documented however if they present a reasonable a reasonable proposal where billions were the billionaire and millionaire owners of the team have the risk of investment in the city is only on the hook for the cleanup of the site and expanding infrastructure i think the investment is wise do not support cutting costs at any department outside of the police to make it this happen i do not support a special taxing district beyond to cover the cost of city responsibilities and the team should be responsible for any cost overruns annie king of tempe writes do you remember why tempe town lake was developed it was started as a main recreational area providing parks multi-use paths a lake for recreational sports and activities our own mini central park in the middle of tempe over the last decade plus that focus has changed where office high rises condos apartments parking areas have taken over the area you can't see the lake from most of the freeway anymore adding to a huge development that adding another huge development that includes an arena completely changes the focus of the area and will cause congestion don't do it let us enjoy the lake cramming another development of this magnitude will destroy the outdoor recreation we have left on the lake get creative let the developers purchase an arena where oceanside or big sur far why not build a new ice rink where oceanside is don't build don't build bigger just because you can ryan bletcher of new mexico writes hello yes please vote yes on the tempe entertainment district to tempe and the coyotes to tempe that is what it says i live in new mexico my family is on the east side of the valley in gilbert we would enjoy more games on a closer drive as well as bars restaurants entertainment thank you joshua q collins of mesa writes the coyotes arena proposal would bring a lot of cash into tempe i have been a season ticket holder for 10 years and live in mesa i spend a lot of money in glendale and happy to bring that business to tempe i'm hoping the deal proceeds with some more negotiation and appreciate your review of this note adam guy of levine writes hello as a resident of the valley this is an amazing opportunity for tempe the premier place for family visitors and everyone in between the tempe has done so much for the valley and being so close to asu will make the sport of hockey blossom and it requires no public money i ask you give your i asked for a yes vote thank you kaylee northrup of tempe writes this is a bad idea there's a reason why glendale ended their agreement with the coyotes you would think this would have a good return on investment but it won't they'll create more traffic which tempe has shown for some time we can't handle and i know you will vote yes because this isn't actual because i hold on she kind of did a capitalization thing this isn't actually coming to a new arena it just allows for a proposal got it but it would be remiss if i don't remind you this is still a bad idea and you should vote no today and stop before it goes too far jeffrey sloan of sherwood park writes city of tempe my name is jeffrey sloan and i'm from alberta canada visiting the great state of arizona is something i enjoy doing and it's because of the arizona coyotes i've gotten to know the city of glendale very well and i've enjoyed patronizing local businesses from westgate to the thunderbird conservation park it's sad to see the coyotes leave glendale but it's a great opportunity for me to explore the city of tempe over the next three hopefully more years as a coyotes fan i would show up then watch them play in a rundown shack let alone at one of the top universities in america the idea for a new arena being built in tempe is an amazing thought i would not only entice coyote fans like myself to visit in tempe but hockey fans from all over the world i know a lot of canadians who like to call glendale home during the winter would gladly make the trek southwest and call tempe home see you at asu in the winter jeffrey d goulier writes as attempt as a 10-year arizona hockey season ticket holder an avid hockey fan supporter i encourage the council members to support a proposal with a yes vote this is much more than just hockey granted i know myself and thousands of other lifelong coyotes fans will spend 41 plus days a year on that property going to game shopping dining pre and post game but hockey or your typical sports friend but hockey or your typical sports franchise the coyotes and their leadership team are about family and the family experience my daughter was diagnosed with epilepsy nine years ago and sadly she was bullied at school for being different knowing how much she loves the coyotes i reached out to coyotes foundation if there was anything they could do to help brighten her spirits i cannot tell you how proud of the moment as a parent i was when i was able to ask my daughter through the team if she'd be willing to go bowling with the players the players and staff were all amazing took the time to listen to her and getting down on her level cheering her on each time it was her turn to bowl a knight neither heard nor i will ever forget i know that i am not the only one with experiences like this so beyond the revenue aspect which are a key factor i know i could only picture the endless children like my daughter to experience exciting life events that she did that evening all the while in the great city of tempe thank you for taking the time to listen duran samuels of laguna beach writes hello tempe my name is duran samuels and i wholeheartedly say that this is deals an absolute win for your city i ask of you i ask of you to listen to what this arena entertainment district happened not the naysayers and the pundits who do not want the coyotes to succeed this deal is privately funded and will transform the old landfill into a thriving entertainment district for everybody taxpayers aren't paying for anything we all all we want is to give you is a lot all we want is for you to give us the land and we can start building what will be an absolute awesome venue for everyone in the city think about it this way the coyotes finally get a fresh start to thrive in arizona a proper location asu's men's and women's basketball teams will get a new facility which would save them money rather than fixing up the old desert financial arena the district's numerous amount of jobs which will open up for construction workers and businesses will make the shops in this entertainment district creating more revenue for tourism for your city to benefit from approve this incredible deal we want to be here forever and be part of the community do it for me do it for you the coyotes tempe asu shane doan matt short leighton achero echarado vote yes jason chin writes of gilbert writes i'd be over the moon to have an entertainment district in tempe i wanted to be the coyote season ticket holder since the day i moved arizona but the west valley is just too far from gilbert my kids absolutely love these games and they're the only function that gets us all together as a family without screens their memories i really cherish and i can't imagine losing them with to a team moving elsewhere the fact this is private a privately funded venture will bring me to the city where i would never go otherwise to spend money and provide revenues that seems like a no-brainer i heartily support this proposal and hope the city will move forward last one darren robredge i think that's robiage yeah of gilbert writes also a book uh a couple years i spent a significant amount of time in temp a couple years ago i spent a significant amount of time in tempe and i really marveled at how it had begun to transform itself into an international feeling type city a professional sports franchise certainly continues to add to this overall international feel of the professional nhl franchise is a perfect partner in order to continue this path forward additionally this seems like a home run for the from a financial standpoint i know when i drive to glendale i spend a significant amount of money when i attend the games both in the arena and the neighborhood businesses around the arena due to a much more favorable location with the new arena proposal i would not only continue to do this but i would inc but it would increase significantly in the past gila river arena has been a major component of my life not only from a personal perspective but also professional one and the relocation and partnership with us in the city of tempe will only reinforce this further this said i do understand some potential reservations the city may have but as someone who has sat through a significant amount of things like city council meetings with the city of glendale in regards to the team in the past it's abundantly clear to me throughout the years that the city of glendale has been ultimately been the coyote's biggest problem with this new engaged and well-funded ownership a separation from glendale and a separation from glendale in tow i feel there are a lot of issues that have been so prevalent and in the case of certain agenda-driven reporters like kd strang of the athletic extremely exaggerated will be left in the past and and in the past team in partnership with the new municipality hopefully tempe can continue to shine this proposal from where i sit is an absolute no-brainer this proposal from where i sit is an absolute no-brainer and must be approved it's normally beneficial to the city its residents the team the fans and the nhl long-term thank you thank you vice mayor keating councilman qb reuben rivera phoenix this is a game changing project for the city of tempe and for all fans of the coyotes hockey belongs in the desert and tempe is the perfect place for this team to have a permanent home approving this project is an absolute no-brainer eric bales tempe the coyotes organization didn't cover themselves in glory in the relationship with the city of glendale and yet you would invite them into our town earlier this week the coyotes emailed me an invitation to get drunk at varsity tavern in the hours before the public meetings so that could be part of a raucous childish childish selfish crowd howling in support of this risky proposal may suggest in these tense times that the city of tempe restrict itself to business with honorable organizations and not those that seek to undermine their partners and have a clear track record of doing so somebody's funny wrote jimmy hoffa but american labor union but it's really tim mckinstry who's a tempe resident um please do your homework and don't give the farm away the city of tempe should not give so much away to every single developer do we have enough water to support this development if you go forward please include a streets portion of the development that includes making sure the surrounding streets are in better condition that when the project started lean learn from past mistakes traffic pedestrian and cyclist friendly vision zero has to be included in the development do not allow the development that does not put safety at the forefront do the right thing what mistakes did glendale make in their wooing of the coyotes please don't make the same mistakes justine hecht tempe a very strongly opposed building the coyote stadium in the city of tempe at this time city residents are facing ever-increasing costs of housing with landlords who are able to charge whatever they want while also not maintaining their properties and wages are not high enough to cover the increasing cost of living our houseless population continues to grow and tempe offers few to no services for these neighbors it is more than time that the city put the needs of the people who live here now first and stop spending money in developments that only worsen aforementioned problems the most recent affordable housing proposal is not enough the city must act to curb unjust landlord actions and increase the hourly wage and provide services to houseless people as long as money is spent on entertainment for consumerism rather than community needs people in tempe will continue to struggle paul kent tempe whoops i trust that tempe staff and elected officials would protect its citizens from any of the incredibly bad terms and conditions negative impacts agreements and loopholes that glendale and or related entities experienced if the decision is to negotiate the site in question already has a big loophole issue in that the idea campus developer did not have to build a phase since its remediation cost hit the limit that allowed them not to build the future phase and the site sits unfinished on the south side of the parking garage this is the type of thing along with the issues experienced for years in glendale that i trust my city officials staff to not allow to happen again terry oxley phoenix the proposal to privately fund and build the new arena in tempe makes a lot of sense council should adopt this now once in reality you will see me more often in tempe right now i go there once a year when a friend flies into town to visit a relative if you want my dollars on a regular basis build as directed in the arena proposal ps do what's best for tempe citizens not interest groups from phoenix and glendale seth hare gilbert i support the building of the hockey arena and the business residential district associated this will generate revenue for the city in a district that currently generates no revenue provide much needed accommodations and jobs and present zero risk to the city itself as it's privately funded there's no risk of loss or accidents with sky harbor which is this city of phoenix facility that serves the valley area additionally there are multiple other airports and airport facilities that are able and ready to take on the growth to better serve the valley this project is a slam dunk for the residents of tempe in the greater area as a whole karen shedler tempe i oppose i'm sorry i approve of the city tempe moving forward with potential plans to allow the arizona coyotes hockey franchise to build on the designated site as a resident of tempe for 51 years i believe this will benefit our city as it will provide professional sporting venue improve the current blighted view of that area enhance revenue and conform well with planning for a futuristic city that is responsive to the diverse needs of its residents thank you susan soroka tempe i am urging city council members to vote no on continuing negotiations with the coyotes team having this organization reside in the city of tempe is not beneficial to residents or the city a best predictor of future behavior is past behavior i am certain council members and mayor woods know the history of the coyotes organization with respect to their host city glendale please listen to your constituents and other surrounding entities that do not support having the coyotes in tempe thank you caitlin anderson phoenix i'm in favor of building a hockey stadium in the proposed location i i believe it will have a favorable economic impact on the area and will help generate additional interest in asu's growing hockey program please consider approving this proposal dylan henderson el mirage we got a big el mirage turnout tonight i wanted to write to you encouraging a yes vote to begin negotiations and building an arena partly for the arizona coyotes i do not currently live in tempe but as a supporter of the team i will have more reason to visit and spend money in the city and there are tens of thousands of people in the same boat the land currently brings virtually zero value to the city of tempe in such a state of art development will surely bring tons of sales tax revenue and increased prestige for the city of tempe for these for this reason i strongly encourage a yes vote jeffrey placencia mesa i've been a season ticket holder for the coyotes for over three seasons i spent the last three years commuting to glendale for coyotes games and don't think for a second that i enjoyed that commute it was terrible i live in east mesa and the idea of coyotes moving to tempe take all my money i'm an asu graduate i love the city of tempe continuing the awesome memories of the city with the addition of the oats sign me up asap please get this arena deal made people want it team wants it let's make it happen ethan mazzarius tempe i would like to convey that i wish for the city not to move forward with the negotiations for the proposed hockey arena being a nearby resident to the proposed site i have concerns regarding the impact you would have on transportation currently the area has less than ideal alternatives to driving and i fear the addition of a large sports complex would encourage the building of more car-centric infrastructure in the area i also have concerns that the intended occupant of the area given a track record with other cities specifically their history of withholding payments to municipalities and the potential for them to push the city to give them large tax breaks and other incentives if this was just an issue of allowing the development itself i would have fewer concerns however it is the developers intention to charge the residents of tempe for the privilege of them building a hockey arena in one of the most desirable areas in the state then i see there being a number of key priorities that the money would be much better spent on eric tony's tempe yes to pursuing development with the arizona coyotes but any agreement needs safeguards that the city will receive all tax dollars due for any similar business in the city sean burke and just arizona to the council while i'm not from tempe originally i'm a loyal and native phoenician i've spent my life in the west side of town traveling to coyotes games while it's amazing as a fan and my hometown team to get up to be up in the street from them my heart knew they would not be financially viable on the west side when i knew it was time for them to move i came to terms with this fact that going to tempe was the best option i might not like the fact the franchise is moving 45 minutes away from me but it's important to keep the franchise in the valley i beg of you in accordance with the thousands of other arizona counties coyotes fans excuse me to please save this franchise it is through you and the city tempe we will have a professional sports franchise that has provided countless numbers of moments to loyal fan base over the last 25 years chris lawrence tempe oh it's a long one everybody get some coffee this is new i was going to say what i was going to do too is also keep an eye i'm going to look here too with the ones that say uh that they want them red i think there's maybe only two or three more that have actually specifically asked to be read and i'm going to find those and we can probably cut this a little short so also so yeah it's a loop there's a couple of folks i know um they didn't okay yeah this one doesn't want to be red so i mean i'll take this um this is jay zimmer from marana oh see this is support for just provide written comments for review okay christopher hansen phoenix and provide written comments for reviews so okay done what you'll see council is a lot of one under please select an option many of them say provide my written comments to the council prior to the meeting for their review so if it says that i know there were a couple of people um you know ron tapscott who asked for his to be read and i believe phil amarosi will ask for his to be read so if we can just look for those yeah i know they i know they specifically reached out in advance and said i want mine red yes bills um councilman adams do you want to read phil's if you haven't i'm sure thank you mr mayor thank you this is from phil amarosi uh tempe [Applause] mr mayor and council don't be fooled by the bright pretty drawings with exaggerated perspectives look behind the slides if mr morello is actually privately financing his entertainment district why is he asking the city to create special taxing district so he can rake in all the sales tax for the next 10 years he'll claim it just so he can recoup his costs of the remediation of the soil i bet the city would do do it cheaper with on their own without the burden of empty area with an empty arena and get something that the neighbors really want in that spot the city won't see a penny in sales tax but it will have to pay for the emts and the police that have to go there let's do an independent traffic study your maintenance your new maintenance yard just west of priests already got an f grade for not being able to turn to turn out onto priest after it gets built there will be a lower grade than f for the neighbors who won't be around will people venture out to to out out to mail when they visit doubt it after hassling with the traffic they'll give their money to mr morello and leave mr morello also has threatened to leave 10 years after the gravy train runs out then tempe will be stuck with an empty arena the valley is already saturated with arenas theaters and stadiums people only have so much entertainment dollars to spread around this is not the best use they do want to live and work in tempe so let's use the land for something that people want that the taxpayers can make money off from day one thank you for your time thank you that it wouldn't find uh mr tapscott's email by chance not found it yet either because it looks like it might be the only one left i don't see us [Music] i don't have any more to read mr mayor i don't think uh these are all okay i think i might have i might have it in my email i have it here counselor would you like to read it please thank you sure he sent it to you and me um marin council are elected representatives about to issue act three of the theater of the absurd the first act was months of secret and behind the scenes alex murillo whining and dining lobbying and throwing money around act 2 was issuance of an ill-thought-out rfp one that only alex morello and team gambling could respond to one devoid of open documentation and analysis one that set the stage for legal and relationship issues with phoenix and sky harbor by violating the iga the pending act iii would have us believe history is irrelevant this the weirdest of all acts is self-flagellation as a form of denial can't we consult with our partner cities and learn from their experience can't we read a newspaper pick up the phone ask glendale ask tucson and the tucson convention center asked nevada where morello was sued for over 450 000 of unpaid license fees the culinary workers union who called for a state investigation into murillo's impending purchase of the sls las vegas ask the nba in the atlanta hawks what will they say morello does not honor his commitments and has questionable financials but you know that your own city staff's financial analysis scored them in the basement why would one be surprised that the tempe citizenry is pondering that the fix is in lest we forget the city development processes and council have been corrupted in the past it's documented the city council has all the necessary information to terminate the current rfp and begin another and i'm not buying that they'll sue us let them protecting tempe from scam artists and charlatans requires courage a more presentable and rational rfp would would open would be open to all potential projects and developers one that does not rely on tax giveaways and one that attracts honest bill paying less sketchy developers you have a responsibility to the taxpayers to ensure that deals that may look good on public relations materials or on developer handouts don't collapse leaving the taxpayers on the hook an exhausting continuation of this process launches a campaign of attrition one that exhausts tempe residents and gives sketchy marilla the opportunity to wine and dine and pump money into campaign financing posture philanthropy philanthropy marketing efforts as well more secret behind the scenes arm twisting and cajoling i'd rather skip the energy draining sideshow and focus on the complicated and complex issues we are forced to face the affordable housing crisis the growing number of unsheltered residents living on our street swelling traffic volume i would rather learn from history not repeat the known history that is documented and obvious and rather not become the laughingstock of who got played the fool by alex murillo ron tapscott tempe resident sounds good thank you council really appreciate it so the rest of the comments that people noted were fine to be just simply included for the council for their review so and those are all all be available to the public as well but want to make sure that we have enough time because once again we have a midnight uh cut off here so i want to make sure we have enough time for council discussion and also executive session if needed uh i'm gonna ask actually let's actually let's just go in the order here just to make sure so number six is city council discussion i'm gonna look to the council to see if there's any conversation questions that you have once again i'm gonna try to limit everyone at least to one or two questions it doesn't mean you can't ask more but i want to make sure that everyone's involved in the conversation if they want to be so with that i will look to my colleagues and see if there are any questions that anyone has councilmember qb do you have a couple of questions for the uh for the coyotes whether it's nick or xavier um so back in the day i whenever i first met mr morello um i presented information about a cba community benefits agreement we see across the country when there are successful sports stadiums involving public subsidies and tax breaks there usually is a community benefits agreement that comes along with it and i skip to the future on the website you commit to pay the prevailing wage for major subcontractors for their arena only so i want to ask you why not for all the subcontractors like you heard from the um carpenters union what is what is a non-major subcontractor are they not worth the prevailing wage which is which is essentially a minimum wage for skilled labor and just for the arena why not for the entirety of the project is there a labor agreement or a pla which will ensure that workers who are going to be given the prevailing wage are treated fairly because a pla will enforce the prevailing wage when is that going to be done what is the status of prevailing wage and pla for all workers so i think they're building the building yeah uh mayor uh councilmember qb we have been in discussions uh with representatives of union labor the morello group has a long-standing relationship with union labor for example in the um [Music] um the grand sierra okay which is the largest resort hotel in nevada in fact in the country with over 900 rooms that is all union the morello group owns five major sub-count contractors they're all union as well so we've begun having conversations with representatives of the union and the leader of the local union group uh we anticipate that we will have an agreement with them um as we go forward so do you commit to to all the subcontractors and not just for the arena only but for the sport stadium district the sports entertainment district are you committing to paying prevailing wage for for the um the entirety of the trades that will be working for the building all the subcontractors you say will pay the prevailing wage for major subcontractors but for the arena only so i'm asking tonight are you willing to commit to that i think what we're willing to commit to is again we'll have an agreement with uh union labor representatives what that will end up being i can't i can't tell you well but you are you made a commitment already to the major arena subcontractors yeah we did and again it was for an rfp and it was important for everyone to understand that the morello group is very happy and willing to commit to that now what the final you know terms of an agreement will be i can't tell you but we will have an agreement with union we're not getting committed and i'm also asking about you know prevailing not just prevailing wage but for a project labor agreement because that's how a prevailing wage gets enforced and there's compliance and such but i mean i i sense that i'm not going to get an answer tonight but i just want to put that in your noggin and then i want to ask um ask you all you're you're asking the city and the taxpayers to contribute funding to this project yes no we are not asking for any taxpayer money for any private portion of this project there's public infrastructure which is typically the obligation of the public to pay however as i mentioned in my presentation it's important for mr morello's standpoint that all of the buildings all of the improvements that are done are all personal and personally financed and that in all public infrastructure that he is paying a portion of that as well and i think i broke down the how it would be done right so it is customary and we've had this um um told us by staff for developers to cover all costs associated with the development which typically means all the costs for the infrastructure that you're mentioning so we're talking about the undergrounding of of power lines water and and gas we're talking about you know the water utilities are grading the site private streets and so that is that is a public a public um expenditure i mean that that is certainly a public expenditure and i believe you know i've seen and i've seen it repeated erroneously in in letters that we're getting from the fan base that this is all privately financed but if there's a community facilities district that's paid for with with tpt taxes that that's not that's not a a private finance that's a public financial mayor council member qb there's a difference between half street improvements for example the difference between extending sewer lines or water lines for your own project of course that is always picked up by the developer and we always do that we're talking about here something extremely unique that doesn't exist anyplace else and that is you own a piece of land the city of tempe does that has basically um i think the number ended up being uh 40 or 150 130 million dollars worth of additional expenses that don't exist on any of the projects that includes the under that's undergrounding those power lines and these aren't just power lines along the street that right but are you willing to have the city retain all the city taxes so 100 of the tpt not the 25 that you're proposing and then the commercial lease tax the city primary property tax because what happens is there's very little left to fund the costs that you're going to generate from the sports entertainment district for example a police station it's fine to have a police um a space for for police but there's a lot of expenses associated with having a police station and we definitely will need one because i once went to a fight and a hockey game broke out so sorry it's my only joke um but so you know if we have a police station we need to have funding for that and there's full-time employees and you know millions and millions of dollars to fund that station so there's very little to fund those costs and you are asking the city and the taxpayers to contribute funding to this project so i'm done with my questions but i'm going to have commentary but those are the questions i have sounds good no thank you councilmember qb any other council members any questions you'd like to ask councilmember navarro thank you mary um nick can you once again just explain uh what you guys are proposing i heard two million dollars giving back to the um affordable housing fund um can you go through that list again of things that you guys are considering or potentially wanting to contribute back to the city again and then i have one more question sure so the funds that will come from the morello group on behalf of the coyotes will be 40 million dollars in cash up front before any dirt is turning before they buy anything that 40 million dollars will be placed in escrow and it's non-refundable um again they won't we won't own the property it's just given to the city and that'll be the first part used to begin the renovation um then there'll be another eight million dollars for phase two again that'll be you know contributed and be non-refundable then we go into the things that are very unusual as i try as i tried to explain that are not typical public infrastructure that's the remediation um as i mentioned you've got um the cost of the remediation goes into get my notes make sure it's right so we've got um 1.5 million tons of hazardous waste at 30 feet in depth um the cost of that and all the other things are 62 bucks a square foot so it's 130 million dollars so basically what we would we're suggesting is that uh the city was basically half of its tpt generation would be used to pay for those things which again are located on city property and are understandably a city expense but rather than asking the city to pay for all of it we're only asking for half of the city's tpt the other half that the city will keep is about 215 million dollars over 30 years which averages about seven million dollars per year net for the city then to cover the rest of the bonds uh the marilyn group will charge itself in all of its operations and businesses and all the businesses that operate on the site uh six up to six percent surcharge so the city's contribution will be point nine percent right was half of what its tpt is but the marilla group is committed to basically pay up to six percent in addition plus putting up two point um one billion dollars worth of real estate is collateral securities for the bonds so there's no way that the bonds will ever not get paid there's no way that the bondholders will not get paid but we're doing this and we're paying more money on the interest rate for the bonds because we're doing a cfd if we did an improvement district now to be on your balance sheet and it would affect your financial condition but now it's off balance sheet and that really becomes our obligation but again this is very unique this isn't the typical you know do the do the landscaping along the street this is very serious 30 feet worth of brownsfield stuff and all the things that go with it so the the benefits yeah those kinds of those yeah so let me go through the benefit list for you let me let me add in a couple of things immediately to address your question councilman navarro yes we committed a two million dollar investment to the affordable housing fund initially our proposal uh was envisioning possibly doing a workforce housing fund in which we would invest alongside with a developer to co-invest and actually create potentially a hundred million dollar fund of equity which in aggregate could end up being close to 400 million dollars of investment in housing throughout tembe so that's number one number two we obviously uh also included several other community benefits we would have about 15 000 square feet for city usage roughly 7 500 in each phase we also committed to about a million dollars of investment in terms of creating inclusive areas for uh for families with multiple abilities in their families we also talked about about a seven million dollar investment in public art we also talked about a 25 000 a year venture challenge that we would partner with asu to fund for the next 20 years and i believe there was also we uh we also committed to having tempe uh be part of the naming of the entire district which in looking at our third party analysis would come out to about 130 million dollars worth of naming value and branding value for tempe and that you have in our study from our market feasibility partner and we would be contributing to streetcar fun as well as to light rail uh one of the things i wanted to to mention in addition to the benefits of two million dollars for example that will be paid into the affordable housing fund just for javier so that will be expanded one of the great things about the morello group is you've heard a lot about what they do and they don't talk about but other people do the community has benefited a great deal and there's two things that came up and that was housing right the affordable housing again is a big help for that um but also just the neighborhoods themselves right we haven't been out in neighborhoods knocking on doors um it was my opinion as our council that it was inappropriate for us to do that because we could not do either direct contact with you or indirect if we start going out and knocking on doors and asking people to let you know how great we are now we have a violation so uh if you allow us to go forward one of the things we would do as part of during our negotiations is we'd now start meeting with the neighborhood representatives get our traffic engineers working with your staff talk about all of the questions regarding what impacts this project would have in the surrounding neighborhoods we love this site simply because we are on the freeway we're right off a priest and we do want like i said the streetcar we do want to use the light rail and all those multimodal forms of transportation but but the revenue to the city and as i mentioned earlier is far in excess of what my client is taking and not only that but it's it's millions of dollars more which is which i've never seen before and i just want to say that i mean right now the land is generating nothing right now no taxes or no revenue anything right now and i want the audience to understand in those concerns about affordable housing these projects like this or others that we have been doing we've been collecting money into our affordable housing fund probably more than i anticipated we would collect in x amount of years too i mean it's it's really amazing but those funds are the funds that help us provide our affordable housing that the city owns in perpetuity the only way we get good affordable housing in this city is the fact that we own the land we own the housing and that's what helps our residents i know we have some people out there they're asking hey i want to move back into tempe but i can't afford it this is what we truly see as an opportunity a partnership like this and other partnerships that we've done in this city has generated these these funds to collectively doing that we've bought a grocery store we have the potential to have a grocery store and some affordable housing above it um in a great neighborhood off apache i mean those those are just great examples of what our negotiations and and what i'm trying to say is there might be some stuff here that we want to negotiate on we want to go further down the road with you guys on because there's opportunity in that and we see opportunity in this city so i just want to start with that one little piece but then the other thing i want to add on to is when you talk about the faas and any of the violations or any concerns via the faa if the faa or if there's any unsafe [Music] issues with the project tell me what could happen so we talked through them for example the the the issue that you heard from a number of the uh stakeholders with the airport pilots association and others and that is a safety regarding building heightened cranes we took that to heart when we first spoke to representatives of the airport they said we really can't have your buildings get that close to the one engine out surface we can't have you piercing now our buildings we never designed the piercing but when you start putting cranes on top of it even though they're temporary they begin to pierce it now you have multiple cranes and it causes a problem and it's a safety hazard so we went ahead and decided to just build our building shorter so the cranes go up 40 to 45 feet above the buildings and even at that at height now they're below that oei surface which you heard concern from from the pilots association in particular so these are so we're very proactive in our responses to these things uh and solving them and like i said we we were committed during these negotiations to continue our discussions with uh in the faa and um and working through all those issues to the extent that there are any other than obviously the issue regarding the residential right and that's one of the things none of those council and i and i see this for me personally is is we definitely need to go forward to here and to help negotiate and have staff and negotiate and one of the concerns is obviously is working with the airport and trying to figure out solutions and we want to make sure we have those partnerships too but at the same time we want to know absolutely that we're doing a safe and the right thing for the city and i think that's always something that we're always going to be looking at um so going forward you know there's that's why i think that you know in our my opinion um having these these discussions letting you actually vet these out with staff and having the ability to really dig into this i think it's a great opportunity for us so i'll stop right there thank you thank you councilmember navarro councilmember eridano savage right thank you mayor it's really good to see you i know we've been talking about this a long time but i know we've all been really respectful of the blackout period and you guys have definitely done your due diligence and i think we've all done our due diligence too of of trying to learn and understand as much as we possibly can so thank you thank you for everybody that has come here tonight and and spoken to this council to me i think this is like a true testament of how we how our process works and how much we really value input um you know from all of our stakeholders so to me being able to get the input and this feedback and ask questions and is is all about what makes us tempe so unique right and so i'm really grateful for that opportunity now of course there's always concerns right i mean i got to tell you i haven't really been a huge coyote fan i mean don't shoot me for that but i always like to tell myself that i have kind of like a like a slap shot that i use when i'm golfing and i'm stuck up against the wall and so i kind of do it that way so maybe that's kind of like my idea of being a coyote fan but anyway a couple things i just want to ask really fast in regards to finances i mean one of the things that we continue to hear is obviously there was a parting of the ways with glendale and i understand how that stuff happens but to really help us feel that we are coveraged and we are covered with this risk and i know nick you mentioned about the 2.1 billion that's going to be kind of put up for collateral i don't think those are the right words you used and i don't even know if you told me tonight exactly what that means if i'm going to really fully comprehend exactly what that but that looks like but i would love to just hear a little bit more if you could share a little bit in regards to those finances what that looks like and if there was to be something that um there was a situation and the payments weren't made who gets paid first right sure i mean obviously i want to be that first one up on that box to be paid first so what what does that look like so with respect to the bonds in the bond structure as i mentioned it's a it's a cfd and we work with an underwriter as an independent underwriter and and of course and it would be the city's you know underwriter and you're you're buying council and you have very good buying council by the way and he's sitting here in the auditorium i've known him a long time um and you've got a a great advisor in curt as well so what they'll do is help put together really the the structure the most important thing to a bondholder if they're going to buy the bonds because they don't buy the bonds there's no project they don't buy the bonds my client put up 40 million bucks and doesn't get anything for it but assuming that the bond structure is put together there's the first thing is a source of repayment is there a predictable and reliable source of payment for those bonds and that's why we're creating the two sources one would be our request would be of course that the city would apply half of the tpt generated toward the bonds um as well as a portion of the bed tax for example and and the property tax after the g blitz would run out then the second would be a big portion and that of course is the up to six percent of additional equivalent tpt and that's the surcharge that will be charged on all the same business activities so if you spend 100 on a ticket you wouldn't just pay an extra dollar eighty right to the city you'd pay an extra up to seven dollars and eighty cents potentially so that money then would be collected on site at that point of sale and um then of course the the department of revenue gets you know the city's share and then uh the portion is applied to make the payment and of course on our side it goes right to the trustee right and and we did something similar in glendale when we had a surcharge there as well but then the question is what happens right if all of a sudden everything gets shut down what happens if there's no revenue there's a pandemic that's a hundred thousand times worse than what we just experienced right um but what happens right well the bondholder says where's my collateral security how do i assure that there's something there now property taxes right you pay a property tax bill it's a really a non-recourse obligation but what happens if you don't pay your taxes if you don't pay your taxes there's a tax lien and the county goes ahead the county assessor goes ahead and sells the tax liens now if no one pays that holder to that tax lien everyone gets foreclosed out the banks if there's a lender there any any any interest in that property including the owner's interest is gone so here this there would be an assessment lien an assessment lien is the equivalent of a property tax lien if you will it would have that level of priority for payment so for example if there was zero revenue because everything gets shut down okay either the developer is paying it out of out of in this case mr morrell's own pocket and any other owners within the project but more importantly the banks have an interest to protect because the banks are going to be lenders in this and and they will step up and make a payment if necessary as well but mr morello has a financial wherewithal to handle all of that and it's one of the things that javier will talk about and more importantly if you do allow us to go forward negotiate [Music] the financial condition will be open right to to your folks very open um asu did something very similar when because obviously they heard the same things about how the negative things that you read about or heard about so they want to make sure that they did their own due diligence financially and we intend to do the same thing for you under no circumstances do we want this city and mr morello committed i don't want this city council right to be be subject to any undue criticism for anything so yeah the financial condition will be open yeah yeah if you don't mind i'd like to add on that because that's clearly been a topic for this evening i think a couple of things that you can hear as far as our commitment the first and foremost is now that we're able to have these open dialogues we commit to allowing you to have direct access to our financial institutions that have lent money that have been part of not only the financial um lending but but been there for not only alex morello but for the moral group and that's something quite frankly as nick mentioned that we did with asu they hired a third party due diligence firm that had direct access to assess and analyze the financial strength in addition as i mentioned to you we have banks already that have been 20 plus year lenders to alex morello and to the morello group that have recently done an underwriting successfully of the coyotes and the head of all expressed interests if and when there is an approval to move forward with this project to potentially provide financing so these are the commitments that we will make to you we are open we are transparent we are looking forward to having you have that uh dialogue directly and we are very uh certain that it will show the financial strength financial capability for us to move forward with this project and well and like i said too and i think nick you mentioned it and i i appreciate that information but i would be really important as if if we do move forward that you know we're able to work together and that that our staff feels very comfortable um with with what we're hearing and what we're working on at the um because not only were we unable to have any contact with you we couldn't even work with your staff i completely understand so i feel like i almost kind of want to i appreciate the feedback and the information that you're telling me but at the same time i know how important it is to ensure that our staff is involved in this conversation because they are like the professionals uh for the city of tempe and for me and and and that's really important so i guess i'm kind of expressing some of my concerns and things um to be talking about and i know we had a little bit of conversation about uh the dollars that are actually coming into our general fund versus that are going back to paying for the project and that would be something that i hope would be worked out um as we move forward too because i do appreciate i think those numbers have changed a little bit since we talked last a long time ago and i'm very very happy to hear that i think it's really important i think you mentioned it earlier that we need to ensure some of those dollars um not only help pay the project but also we're going back into all of the tempe residence pockets so i think that's important and one of the things i think kim mentioned it here is you know this is really valuable land and and people i think sometimes don't really realize um what it is when our economic development actually scores it is it is scored at like a 22 out of 25 when it comes to a valuable piece of land in the city of tempe and that scored on a few things location the size the proximity to innovation hubs and the proximity to city investment and those are all fives the one that gets a two is the value of the land and the value is because it is a landfill it is not a clean site and that's one of the challenges that i think we have to kind of overcome and realize that we have got to help in that instance to be able to create something really dynamic you know whether it's whether it's a partnership with the coyotes or maybe somebody that may come after you if this doesn't work out but i really want to make sure that we are all and i'm really comfortable with that economic impact right so i i mean i can see um that being a really positive thing and i know council member navarro mentioned the faa and how important it is to make sure that you're ensuring safety and i even had when we did meet with phoenix they did talk about how you have really made some changes and adjustments to address a lot of their concerns and i know that this housing thing is something that we have really need to work through and figure it out and i really want to make sure that i'm comfortable with the interpretation that i mean i read it myself i didn't really see anything in there that says you cannot have multi-family housing but still i want to get that clarity from our legal team too and just feel very comfortable moving forward and last thing i want to do is have a bad relationship with the city of phoenix that is never anything um that is positive moving forward so and then uh the other one thing too is that's going to be really important is if we talk about this and move forward is ensuring that we have synergy with downtown i know a lot of people are very concerned when we have an entertainment district that it's going to take away some of those individuals that may be going to the downtown well i look at this as they could really complement each other but it would really be good to know what your thoughts are and how we're going to make that happen because to me that's going to be something that is going to be really instrumental as we move forward so people can really understand that we are not trying to cannibalize by any means you know our restaurants our hotels or anything to that effect that we are really trying to enhance them that's going to be one of the things that hopefully um we can have that conversation a little bit about and the one thing i i'm telling you you guys kind of really want to make me become a coyote fan because what i heard so much of tonight was diversity inclusion and the ability to really give back and be part of a community and you know and you know me and i love that i think that's phenomenal you said a lot of the really great things and i think people need to remember i think council members brought these up is we talk about the benefits to the community but there's a lot of benefits to the community that you are voluntarily giving back to the community that you don't have to do your your partnership that you have with your nonprofits is pretty amazing the money to our school districts you mentioned the money uh to the streetcar we talk about traffic i mean traffic is going to be an issue we're going to have to get that figured out so i love the idea that you are very supportive of the streetcar that you're going to create a valley metro partnership whatever that might look like i think that needs to be vetted out just a little bit more and one of the things that we've been working for putting money towards the affordable housing our affordable housing projects is great police substation and then just the ability to clean up the site so i mean there is just a lot of excitement about those things that you've mentioned that really uh really you know for me was was pretty exciting to hear and i just want to make this one comment because it really it really kind of bothered me when some people say why are we giving tack breaks to a billionaire and this is like i kind of resent that just a little bit and i'm going to kind of tell you why because it has always been so important to me on my 12 years of being a council member that we work so hard to be a business friendly community and for me being a business friendly community is being open-minded and flexible you know that we are meeting the needs of the businesses our current businesses our future businesses and that we're implementing programs to help all of our businesses but first and foremost that we treat all business all of our businesses equitably and consistently and what we do for one we should do for all right and i think to me that is just something that is about my integrity and what i believe is really important about being a representative of this community and on this end of this ward and we have used incentives in so many ways that those projects never would have been done if we weren't able to put something before them and we talk about the arizona mills the marketplace um 100 mil and now the tempe depot there's so many different ones that we've been able to utilize and have and come up with such a successful project that i think has just been really a phenomenal thing so for me i'm just going to tell you i i 100 believe that you have earned my support to advance this conversation uh no question about it um i want to definitely see us move forward with these negotiations um i'm like shane doane said i'm going to be on the bench when this comes forward as many of you know i'm like in my 30-day window of being off this council however i know that um the future council members or the new line i'm not sure if that's how you say when they come in are really paying attention they're going to do everything that they can to get up to speed and they'll be able to address this and and i think do the best and make really great decisions for the city but um i i think that what you bring the opportunities that are before us here today um the ability to be able to create a really iconic landmark it to me it's just an opportunity to transform something into really remarkable and and i i wish i could be here to be a part of that i'm but i'm happy i'm here to at least be able to hopefully push that a little bit forward down the road and i am looking forward to conversations in the near future and really do appreciate you wanting to be a partner with tempe so thank you mayor thank you thank you councilmember eridano savage uh next up vice mayor keating then councilmember adams uh thank you mayor i had a lot i wanted to say but in the interest of the longest council meeting we've had i'm going to just kind of abbreviate everything and hopefully get everybody home at a decent hour because i know it is a school night um first first a point i say that now i'm going to speak for a long time that's what all politicians do i'm going to keep it short 45 minutes later i'm wrapping up but just before we start i want to say mr doan i have your jersey from 1998.

um and that's because my brother lived in tempe at the time i lived in michigan uh the red wings did beat you in the semi-finals of the western conference um it was six games though you guys put up a fight and the red wings didn't go on to win the stanley cup so there's there's no harm there right um so that's pretty cool [Laughter] um yeah well yeah but still i mean um you know one of the things i i really appreciate your willingness to to seek a project labor agreement you know as councilmember kubi pointed out i think that's something that is that is important to this community there are definitely stakeholders and interested parties that would like to see something like that particularly we're talking about spending well not we but you are talking about spending you know 2.1 billion dollars on on construction it is important that you know these are these are highly skilled individuals that are good at the job and and have have credentials to prove so so i would i would strongly encourage you moving forward to take a very strong look at that community benefit agreement of course i know you've already agreed to that and and that's you know fantastic as well um to me it's indeed indicative of the kind of partners the coyotes are trying to be you know with the city of tempe and the east valley as a whole so i appreciate your willingness to look at those those avenues certainly it means a lot to me i'd also ask that you speak with the local tribes um gambling i know was a concern for residents in the city of tempe not necessarily because gambling is bad quote bad because you can gamble on your phone right now right like that reminds me i forgot about about the celtics tonight and does anyone know if they won celtics no spoilers here [Laughter] just kidding everybody i would never do such a thing um you know but but it's because you know gambling revenues are something that is important to the tribe so to the tribes right so i want to make sure that we're not stepping on any toes with that aspect of this project i'm sure there's some agreement that can be reached they haven't reached out to me personally or as far as i know the council but i could see this coming up in the future should this move forward tonight so i would please ask you to do your due diligence there my computer turned off and it has the rest of my other goals i do want to say that i was very very inspired by miss fry's and mr morrison's story um certainly i grew up playing hockey myself you know with shoes on and a ball you know dragging your stick in the street would make it you know sand down to a little thing and then eventually we got rollerblades because i am old enough to remember before rollerblades were actually a thing like it was roller skates and then rollerblades and it was like it was a brand new invention then eventually on to ice and i played for about 12 years so hockey's always been an important sport to me and i recognize the community and the opportunity that it creates for individuals to be part of something we all need that right mr morrison kind of hit on that that he found a community and a piece playing hockey and i think that that's important miss frye you know the first arizonan winner olympian that's crazy you know she flew flying to colorado to play hockey because you couldn't play hockey here when i moved here in 2003 i couldn't find where to play hockey i was trying to play roller hockey in the roller hockey league and i was shocked that you just couldn't do it here just shocked um you know a vote tonight to to move forward with negotiations isn't necessarily a vote for the project and to say yes i'm willing to keep talking and go down this path to see if this partnership works is not a guarantee that i'm going to end up supporting the project at the end of the day i want to make that clear because again there are there are things that people are going to need right you guys have done in what is in my opinion an excellent job tonight of addressing some of the concerns that we have heard we have not been able to talk so you know we see we get these emails that say a certain thing and we don't know i can't call you up and ask you if this is true or not i think you guys did a very very good job of kind of setting kind of resetting the tone right this now feels different than it did coming into this meeting tonight and that's a testament to the the organization and the presentation that you guys have put on so i certainly applaud you for that um and i own an apology by the way yeah we were at a fundraiser and i i saw a councilman keating at the fundraiser and he came up and said hi i said i can't talk to you and i walked away so that was true i was just going to ask him for his drink ticket it's a true story too yes it was for our good friend yazmin i'm sorry is one of her five or six birthday parties she threw um look i i miss provine said something i think that was pretty profound right she she said that it seems like this has been in the works for months and no one's known anything about it and and and the fact of the matter is this is a normal process that we follow for all rfps an rfp that the city issued and asked for and you guys were our only respondent so i can see why it could seem like that to the public where hey we all you know coyotes are talking about coming to tempe and the council member can't talk to us about it there's been no public meetings i could see how that looks out of the norm but the fact of the matter is it is the normal process it's just this is quote unquote sexy so therefore there's so much attention on it that it seems like why is everyone now why is this thing different from the other thing the thing is no one cared about the office space rfps and things like that that doesn't have the attention that this has so it is important that we have a public process and a public process is impossible it's illegal without a vote to move forward tonight you will not have the opportunity to engage the public we will not have the opportunity to engage the public we will have the opportunity to address these concerns that we've heard from the public in a thoughtful meaningful way because we are currently restricted from doing so so moving forward we'll be able to ensure that this deal doesn't live or die in a room no doubt filled with vegetarian pizza and diet coke but it is a public process in which all involved are able to all stakeholders residents coyotes this council is able to engage in and move forward and see if it makes sense for us to to be in partnership together so i do want that public process i'm not i'm not going to sit here and say i'm going to support the project or i'm not going to support the project because i don't have enough information yet i will say i like what i have seen but the process still needs to go on the process is important and i'm very thrilled that we seem to be able to kick off that process tonight should we vote in favor of continuing negotiations and should we end up coming to a final vote on this project the coyotes being part of the tempe community will have started tonight and it's important to me that the coyotes are as good a partner with the city as as we could possibly have and vice versa the city needs to be good partners with the coyotes too so should we move forward tonight your legacy or whatever as as tempe community members kicks off with this vote so it is a responsibility that i know i take very seriously and everyone on this council does too as the people that we represent and i certainly hope you do as well um with that i will be voting to move forward with negotiations tonight thank you again for your time in this very long meeting i said i'd keep it short but i lied thank you vice mayor keating council member adams well i really will keep this short the vice mayor did a really nice job at summarizing things uh so i agree with everything that vice mayor keating said um thank you for your presentation uh it's it's nice to actually be able to have a conversation with you um the labor unions are very important to me and um so you know we i want to make sure that we have the top quality product when it's done and the labor unions will make that happen so thank you for your commitment to work with the labor unions this evening i feel really good about that uh and um we need to promote transparency and negotiate this this project in public and and see where we land we don't i don't know where we're going to land but i know we have a lot more information that we need to get and uh so i will be supporting this this evening and by the way i will use the same apology again we saw each other at a function and you know councilwoman adams came up and you know nick how are you i can't talk to you i'm sorry so um yeah he's just pointing out that he just goes to a lot of parties that's all he's pointing out i was going to say in the spirit of making sure that everyone gets to go first before we go uh seconds uh councilmember garland and councilmember qb thank you nick i'll have to say that i like this tone of your voice much better than earlier i get i don't react really well when people start getting mad and yelling so i like this i like this nick that's a nick i remember um so i i just want to say that i you know i there i know the people who are getting up here and and saying how much they love hockey and um and i just have to say i i love hockey i married a minnesota guy we play broomball on the pond when it's frozen um you've been to hockey games i love it so i just you know there's going to be a butt sandwich here um but so i have i have a lot of questions um for you first before i list my comments comment second so questions first okay so um one of the things is is i was doing a lot of research and as my colleagues know i like to read a lot and do is i have a big huge notebook down here by the way um bigger than hugh holman's i think um i just have to say so um one of the things i was looking at was that the average lifespan the typical lifespan for an arena her stadium is like 31 years um and i know that that's the amount of time that you wise or you guys are requesting this abatement what are you doing after 30 years when that abatement is gone are you gonna be gone and i mean one of the things i was looking at is that you know there are some cities that have had their arenas stay empty for 10 years before they were torn down and done something else with and i i went through football basketball baseball went through hockey and i just want to know what happens to us in 30 years sure mayor councilman garlad one of the differences that's unique here is all of the other arenas that have kind of a 30-year life before they either have to go through some kind of major renovation or sometimes earlier is they were built with taxpayer money and of course it's always built by the most responsible cheapest bidder right here mr morello is using his own money and he's investing in something that he intends to last for more than 30 years so just structurally it'll be significantly improved which is one of the reasons why union steel for example i mean you're going to have the best con subs that are going to be working on this thing and make it work but then beyond that uh however you want to talk about you know the long-term future yeah well that 30 years is not long yeah there's a couple of comments i would make uh the and council members good to talk to you appreciate it mayor thank you for the the question um one we are looking also at additional teams to own here so that is another opportunity for us to look at this as how we maintain our presence here beyond that that moment in time uh second as nick mentioned as it's privately invested it's private real estate we will be seeking to adjust every call it five to ten years in terms of additional investment to keep it modern to keep it uh up to date if if any of you have gone actually to the san jose sharks arena that arena is actually almost 25 27 years old it looks brand new and the reason they did that is they actually put additional dollars every year they didn't do it all at once what you see a lot and i'm sure you saw it in a lot of your research is there's really not that major investment except after 10 years after 15 after 20 then it becomes not a 2 million a year investment it becomes a 60 million 80 million dollar in this instance we are already tracking what would it take every three every six every nine years and obviously it's our money at risk and so we're very much focused on that and probably more importantly now that we had to put about 20 million dollars into asu it's not even the physical infrastructure it's the technological infrastructure it's a lot of the data right now everyone goes to i don't know i'm sure you all have had this experience you show up at a game you're watching the game and you're also on your phone and that data cap that data engagement by the way that second screen experience is actually becoming part of the game experience all those are investments that we've already begun to you know think about and so that we don't find ourselves in that oh my gosh it's 15 years out and we're still using you know whatever technology from 15 years ago we want the latest and so that's actually how we would address that okay i appreciate that thank you and then one of the things that's in the paperworks that they gave us on um the abatements one is that you're now looking for 30 instead of would you say earlier yeah 65 years um but 30 is still a really long time i mean i it's i think about that and um i have mentioned this before but i just i have a new grand baby my first one and he'll be 30 when you guys start putting money back into the city or the taxes start going back into the city um so one of the things that the other one was the eight year abatement and so my question is on the eight-year abatement it says at the end of um it says as the eight-year abatement expires and properties are assessed property taxes the primary portion of those property taxes which is 38 percent which would normally go to the general fund or propose to go back to the cfd so i i haven't heard that mention and i'm not sure anybody has really like looked at that but it's it's that eight year is not technically eight years because it looks like in here that you guys are requesting that that primary 38 continue to go to you guys um after the eight years is over is that correct well a portion of the property tax the city's portion the primary property tax is seven percent and then a portion of that that property tax would be used also to be to pay for part of the cft costs yes okay so so it's not technically an eight year abatement it's more it's longer than that well it's no because we're paying it i mean for example at the end of eight years um mr morello owns a building for example he will begin paying property tax so of course you know the schools get their 73 percent um the the county and the state will get many other taxing agencies will get their 20 and then the 7 will go to the city we're asking is for a portion of that now again it's a negotiable number we're asking for a portion of that property tax that we're paying right to go to again to pay for the uh the cfd expenses so but then then the question is so that money then after eight years that you would like it to go back to help pay for the cfd again that's not going back to paying for the infrastructure or the police officers that are being used the roads construction anything like that that's going back to you guys that's not going back into the general fund i'm just thinking it says eight years and um for both of those taxes and doing an additional on the primary and not the secondary but just doing this edition on the primary i that that money just it just seems like it should be going back to us at that time that your cfd needs to be something different uh mayor councilman garland you're correct but there's there's so many elements to this right that we looked at when i put this thing together and that is granted there's a seven percent portion of the property tax and we're asking for the city to think about taking a portion of that which of course we're paying we're writing a check for it and then put some of that toward payment of the cfd um but at the same time just on the sales tax alone the city is netting an average based upon our current numbers about seven million dollars so it's again it all the way we worked it out and and and our analysis regarding the community benefits versus what we're receiving you know we're compelled especially because of the latest litigation in supreme court cases on gift clause we have to give back a heck of a lot more than we're taking and of course that was my charge at the beginning i want to contribute more than i receive so basically again this isn't money that goes into mr morello's pocket at all he'll be writing a check for the property tax and then um it goes to pay the cfd it's not something that he pockets the cfd money does none of cfd money goes to him not a penny it all goes into resolving all of the issues that are there on the property today yeah so we can also say none of it goes to the city either i'm sorry none of it goes to the city general fund either it's just that's well but but it will i mean half half of the tpt will and then whatever portion we negotiated the property tax for example i mean we may end up again it's all negotiable and that's what we want an opportunity to do is sit down and negotiate it and because it has to work for everybody it has to work for you it has to work for us if it doesn't then there's no deal but at least it shouldn't be for lack of effort so and that's all we're asking is the opportunity the chart that i saw was 4.9 no 4.7 to 5.9 million a year is what at least the charts that i read earlier is what's gonna go back so i'm not sure i didn't see the seven million i saw the 4.7 to 5.9 yeah we decided voluntarily right to change the percentage of the applicable tpt originally we suggested that um there's when you look at the 1.8 tpt that the city receives you already are committed with 0.6 of it to other bond obligations and then you know the rest of it basically would be general fund money if you had no other use for it so we're suggesting that we apply that 1.2 percent toward the payment of the community bonds however we thought you know what that's not what mr marilla wants he wants more money to go back into the city that you can use for other things as well so we're helping you pay down other unrelated obligations and then have other free percentages as well these numbers and these are very conservative numbers i mean i'm glad to hear all these people traveling here from outside of tempe to spend their money so it's good okay um and then another question is um it has it listed that there are two phases this is going to be in why is the housing in the second phase i mean so i guess an additional question is my my concern is if the housing is in the second phase if things don't seem to work out you want to do something a little bit different than what would keep you from selling off that land and then it something else happens to it i'm just curious sure so i'll uh council member garland mayor a couple of responses to that there is 180 units in the first phase so there is some residential there the primary reason quite frankly was fitting the arena and fitting the practice facility really made the most sense to do so there we also looked at uh in our conversations with sky harbor when it came to where are the best locations of uses given heights given noise given all the things that we've heard about tonight so our determination was if you put the arena on the e on the easternmost side you put the practice facility you put primarily all of that parking there that really leds itself to having the residential be on the westernmost side and it really became a maximization of use it's also you know and i'm sure we're going to have plenty of conversations which we look forward to which is where do you have the best locations for more open space right now we've committed to 150 000 uh square feet of that but we're obviously open to figuring out what makes the most sense for what the community is looking for to do that but that's ultimately what made the decision was to really fit the arena the practice facility uh in the and the easternmost portion yeah and if i could add something we will negotiate some form of prohibition of just flipping the land and making some money out of it you know having the bonds there is a component of that but again the idea here is is the development agreement will require right thresholds and percentages and any amount of production um so yeah we'll negotiate all of that into the agreement okay and then um the other question is i i was asking some questions this week um in with staff and my understanding is that we've never set up a community facilities district for a private business my concern is our thought is that we do this for you when other businesses are going to be asking us why aren't we doing that for them why did why are you interested in doing the community um facilities district and doing instead of doing something else that the city doesn't have to start and i in my concerns is being responsible for and i know you would answer some of these questions with councilmember redondo savage but my my thoughts are you know if things don't get paid and you were talking about the worst scenarios um that you know you go to the bottom at the end they're going to go to people with the deep pockets and that's the city and so my concern is is i'm not super comfortable with us setting up an uh cfd or starting one for a private business i would rather not be a part of that and just let that sometimes you guys figure out something else but why did you pick that instead of doing something else so mayor councilwoman garland um it was the the best format for us to basically take care of under the statute using transaction privilege tax in a way that's safe right first of all we had two options and that was one as an improvement district and one is a cfd so we talked about the improvement distance a little bit improvement district now the city's full faith and credit is behind it and that means that the bonds are cheap they're cheaper because you'll have a lower interest rate because they're tax exempt so but the problem is it goes on your balance sheet and it affects you um and we promised right right from the very get-go we would not do that so instead we do the cfd which is the other option and it's not for a private developer right we receive no funds from that on the contrary we are committed to help pay for it we're committed to to build basically the economic engine that will pay for it and then we're placing his cloud security all the privately owned land right to assure so so let's say if you have on a home right you have to say have a half a million dollar home you're going to borrow 300 000 dollars they have two hundred thousand dollars worth of equity um you know your your lender is happy to lend you you know three hundred thousand dollars because there's plenty of equity to cover their debt if anything ever goes wrong well but you've got five hundred thousand supporting 300.

well here we've got 2.1 billion supporting 150.

so it's lots of security and you have so many deep pockets all the banks that you heard right the banks that'll lend they're all behind that obligation so their their pockets are deeper than ours um yeah so so again we so we chose that vehicle to be the safest for everybody i still think they should use their deep pockets to help you pay for it in the beginning and we don't have to go through that but that's my opinion but the city will never be on the hook for a penny uh of obligation other than the contribution if you agree to make the contribution as to a portion of the tpt okay all right those are all the questions i have right now thank you mayor thank you okay thank you very much uh councilman cubie and now we're moving in sort more into the comment stage so you guys can sit down can i miss you oh you have questions yeah i just got a couple of quick comments and then i will go back to counseling so i'll be super quick um everyone's covered at all very well appreciate you both coming and giving a very thorough presentation uh just a couple of quick points just to hit on i i too appreciated the conversation about uh talking with union labor uh that was very important to me and i appreciate the fact of you talking about uh the morello group's background and experience working with skilled labor because that's also a huge issue too when you're working with people many times who don't have those relationships and have never actually worked with people uh who are union labor it becomes very very challenging because they just it's just not what they do but the fact that you have that experience it makes me a lot more comfortable uh clearly you know we there's been conversation about uh you know sky harbor and the faa and look i very much value the relationship with sky harbor in the city of phoenix you know mayor gallegos a friend of mine and i would love to see if there is something we can continue to do to work with them uh to see if we can you know mitigate the concerns that they have about this i i appreciated the fact that they came and voiced their concerns to us in person and i appreciated their presentation as well but it's by hope that you would continue to work with them and see if there's something that we can do to uh you know make them you know feel a lot more comfortable when it comes to the safety of their pilots and runways and everything else um and also mr gutierrez really appreciate your comments about uh showing us the financials because that was something that was you know covered in the paper and you know one of the main questions that i was asked in the probably 48 hours leading up to this meeting was you know the score from the procurement department about the financial stability of the team and so i appreciate the fact that you're saying look you know if we choose to go forward this evening you're willing to open up your books and show us everything that makes me a lot more comfortable and i'm sure it makes a lot of our residents a lot more comfortable too so i appreciate that commitment to transparency so so thank you um other than that uh i honestly i'm going to keep that very short i mean everyone else covered everything i don't want to i don't want to repeat everything but just really appreciate the presentation and with that i i'll let you i'll let you sit down and i'll turn back to councilmember cubie if you've got other questions or counsel discussion amongst all of us i guess but let me ask one quick question um before uh we had uh executive session if necessary does anyone have any questions of a legal nature that would require executive session it doesn't seem like anyone does but i want to ask the council before we shift into comments i'm am i related to related to the housing issue okay but we could talk about that a little later okay sounds good um in that case yes please one other comment the councilman garland we also i think you received a copy of a letter from a major corporate tenant that we are talking to and that are interested in moving their headquarters so again one of the things all these questions that you're asking they ask us the same questions as well so yes that sounds good thank you appreciate it thank you very much thank you so much with that i'll turn back to you councilmember cubie for comments thank you mr mayor first a couple of quick things from things i heard that i just wanted to um counter or just remark on one is about the mention of the contribution to the affordable housing to hometown for all so we recently had a sale of land sale from tempe south pier and it was a 36 million dollar sale over phases and it's going to mean a 10.6 million dollar contribution to hometown for all with possibly more from the actual land sale but there's a commitment of 10.6 million um in this case it's a 48 million land sale that will go immediately back to the coyotes for remediation but it's a two million dollar contribution so that's a very stark difference not very much i would say to go to hometown for all there's been points made that we're not getting any money now from the site that's it's about opportunity cost right we don't really have another option to look at this is the only option we have to look at and there is no money being generated from the site but there could be with another option another opportunity we just don't have that opportunity to to compare um the assessment i know in order to pay off the bond that's proposed you're going to look at a six percent charge so all the tickets will get charged six percent restaurants they're going to add a six percent charge they're gonna add six percent to jerseys sold to everything sold there so um i know you haven't received any uh letters of intent from prospective tenants that might be a concern because not only that's six percent charge but you're going to have to go and do an assessment an assessment to pay back the um the bond especially in the earlier years of the bond so that's that's a concern it might be why there might be some reluctance of some tenants to sign up because that's a pretty big a hefty amount of money that the tenants are going to probably have to pay the other thing is commissioner bettman said he promised the draft an all-star game would come to the facility well that promise is also made to glendale and that never happened they never saw an all-star game they never saw the draft there so that just made me wonder whether that was a true promise so i'm despite the massing of the fan base tonight i think you probably got all the fans and all the coyote fans here tonight and outside it could be all of them this isn't about hockey this isn't about hockey some will say it's about it's about gambling sportsbook gambling but this isn't about hockey it's not providing a location for a hockey arena to make the region whole and have a hockey team or or make the fans happy we need to think about tempe residents that's why we're here tonight we're not here about hockey we're here to think about the tempe residence and at minimum at minimum this is a 30-year commitment that we're talking about a 30-year commitment i don't want to mix sports metaphors but we're we're going to the mat with this development group and a lot has happened since this rfp was issued this rfp was issued and you know i i was one of the ones that you know the council does this as consensus we issued an rfp because we've been talking about this for two years there was always these discussions saying this is decided and the staff agrees we're doing this and we say we wanna it's i don't wanna be crude and use that crude term but it's like get off let's do this and get off the pot let's see exactly what you're proposing so we can actually see it here we are nine months later finally being able to to think about and talk about it so it's been a really long process um so the main issue is the background of the developer it's it's the history it's it's we're getting into a long-term relationship will this be a reliable partner for us and i say there's a highly problematic history whether it was the 1.3 million dollars in taxes owed to the state of arizona the tax liens that resulted the 250 000 of rent owed to the city of glendale and the back rent owed to the city of tucson for the roadrunners club the farm team and i understand now that you're in a payment plan with them a monthly payment plan so i want to show you all something and i would ask um jason to please post this i want to turn to a dunn and bradstreet summary review on each of on the enterprises that the murillo group and the coyotes are involved with so i don't know if you can see it very well but i'll kind of read it along but it shows on the left ice arizona hockey the coyotes ice arizona hockey tucson the caitis foundation morello group morello enterprises morello media grand sierra resort and then on the left you see the delinquency score the failure risk the overall risk and the credit recommendation you can see for ice arizona hockey coyotes the delinquency score is high the failure risk is moderate to high the overall risk is high and the credit recommendation is a maximum of 5 thousand dollars the maximum amount recommended for credit so when i looked at this and and this is available this is non-proprietary this is allowed to be shown tonight i confirmed that when you look at those categories the information is even more alarming let's talk about delinquency score for the coyotes it's listed as high what is delinquency score means it means it predicts the likelihood that an organization will pay its bills in a severely delinquent manner over the next 12 months it's the likelihood of non or late payment or bankruptcy that's a high score and that's the highest score failure risk what is that it's moderate to high as we see listed on just i mean they're all important all those groups because they all involve merlot but we're looking at the coyotes one especially the failure risk what is that it's the indication of severe financial stress over the next 12 months according to dunn and broad street it's moderate to high now overall risk what is that there are three categories that this number summarizes let's look at the summary for again ice hockey arizona and um you know the majority owner is out is alex morello so it's three categories overall assessment of this organization over the next 12 months significant stability and payment behavior concerns number two based on the predictive risk of business discontinuation is higher than average risk of discontinued operations or business inactivity number three the third category based on the predicted risk of severely delinquent payments very high potential for severely delinquent payments let's go to the last category credit recommendation that's the maximum amount recommended for credit based on the severity of the delinquency score so five thousand dollars like my kids can extend a much higher credit than five thousand dollars so we've heard from developers and the fans writing to us that it's a privately funded project the truth is they need public involvement as as councilman regardless pointed out and tax dollars to make this project viable we're talking about a 200 million dollar community facilities district and the 48 million dollars mixed into that because that's the price of the land sale that will immediately go into paying for all of that so we won't see you know it's not like we're going to get the land sale and have that put into our general fund and then there's a giblet which will mean skip skipping of property taxes for a certain time of year time of many years so i think our community the general region has very little appetite for public financing from a billionaire owner sorry robin but he is a billionaire owner of a sports team and multiple casinos and it is customary for developers to cover all costs associated with the development which means typically all the costs of infrastructure that's needed is borne by the developers so we've talked about this before i won't go on and on and i mentioned again that police station because we're talking about we're talking about we're going to get a police station out of this but we have to fund the staffing of that police station and that can be a very costly affair and we need to do it because often there is crime associated around arenas and especially when you bring in the gambling and the sportsbook betting parlor we need to be concerned what we're bringing into the city the city will be responsible though for the maintenance and operation of this public infrastructure and that's really important to know because that's a that's a cost that we're not really talking about tonight now the giblet let's talk about the giblet it would be relief for property taxes they're proposing 30 years on the stadium so you think about it a stadium has about a 20-year lifespan and then it becomes a depreciating asset and then who's going to be responsible the entity that then owns it the city will own it during that giblet period and will be publicly owned for 30 years and you guys will save a lot in taxes i think it's about 100 million if i'm not mistaken it could be different so in 20 years when you need renovations it's going to be on the taxpayers dime and you can say that's not going to happen but that happened with the time backs and it happened with the footprint center and that's why i don't think there's an appetite in this council i could be wrong i shouldn't speak for you but i don't think there's an appetite in our city to have a 30-year giblet is giblet simply a tax designation no it is a tax subsidy that has to be voted into existence we will be in the same situation as the suns and the diamondbacks looking for you'll be looking for public money for renovation and this is seen throughout the country peer-reviewed research shows this this happens again and again so where are we who are we we know that affordable housing we know that homelessness we know that traffic are amongst the three major concerns that our city has we've seen it from community surveys we've seen it from discussions countless discussions in our city from our council i ask how does this proposal help us to solve these big city problems why not a bond why don't we think about a bonding mechanism for affordable housing the city of durham did it they passed a 95 million dollar bond for affordable housing we haven't done a bond for housing but we're thinking about a bond to really help a private business owner to realize his vision and for coyotes fans to realize their dream to have the coyotes stay in the valley i contend that it is the wrong place for this development that is a very that intersection is rather small you cannot exit out on priest i mean to get to the base base basis of the discussion i'm going from high level to low level you can only access the street from rio salado so that that's not necessarily a good location for us it's good in its center of the valley but it's not good because traffic there's only one way out and then we haven't talked about sportsbook gambling when we had that rfp go out really hadn't even passed i think was in september august september when we started to hear about uh sportsbook gambling someone contend it is all about sportsbook gambling because not one but two sports book betting parlors would be allowed in our city and they often target poor communities and students and we have a lot of students in this region i've heard people say we'll become a mini las vegas i say don't bring las vegas into tempe i'm worried about the impacts of sportsbook gambling on our communities especially our more vulnerable and our poorer communities and we gain no revenue from this the trickle down from the state is the taxes that come from sports but gambling minuscule i worry about cannibalization on mill avenue i worry about the tca our premier music venue being sort of cannibalized i worry about the fact that there's no other metropolitan region in the country that will have three big sports arenas so there's going to be cannibalization um and we say there'll be a halo effect perhaps and that ours will be better but we're going to be people have a certain amount of dollar to spend on entertainment it's not like they're going to suddenly find all this extra money to spend we're going to be cannibalizing from from other cities and we are we are in a region we exist in a region and then i'm very concerned about the safety issues that we've heard from the pilots we've heard from the traffic controllers we've heard from from faa we've heard from sky harbor these issues have to be have to be concerning to us excuse me did sorry did you say did you want to say something okay um we have to be concerned about this and that's why you know i ultimately think that we need to look at the rfp and amend it to remove housing or we need to look and expand the rfp to look at other options to look at opportunity costs because the opportunity cost is the loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one alternative is chosen in light of in light of what we could be getting so i have issues with the iga in in housing and these aren't going away we know we probably have a lawsuit coming our way yet we're willing to to sort of shake our heads and say let's move forward to me it's it's inexplicable why we're in this position but you know it all comes down to the ownership group and you did a good job of bringing out your fan base i you know i and we've had a lot of tempe people write to us before things got more controversial more known we had hundreds of letters from tempe residents in opposition far less supporting i do think if we need if we do go forward and like robin i will not be making the ultimate decision if we do go forward it's very sad because i'm involved with three years and if you could see how many pages of notes i have and how many questions i have and would like to keep you all here until midnight with those questions but i've always said we need to get a forensic economic analysis it's essential that we have a forensic economic analysis we have to consider using asu's model contractual language which might provide some guidance for us considering the history of the owner and the history of this team we need to consult with srpmic and that's very important point that vice mayor keating made no i can't speak i can't speak for srpmic but i know i've been told at different times that they don't want to be they don't want to come and give their opinion they want to be asked they want their opinion asked and we need to really reach out and engage srp mic and our um the indian community i'm very concerned about avoiding a lawsuit from faa in phoenix aviation and what might result with our other neighborhoods and the noise that they'll face um i'm concerned about the best use of our city's bonding authority as i mentioned i think we should apply it to where our priorities are and i also think we need to get unbiased sports economists there are many in the country there's five or six i could name off the top of my head but we need to have it um by sports economist because there's been large amounts of academic peer-reviewed research done on sports stadiums their impacts on community their impacts on gentrification their their lack of the lack of community benefits that actually result but there are some good models the staples center is a good model there are good models when a when a community benefit plan is done in in the early days um i'll sort of leave it at that i believe that we need to um i'm not going to support going forth going forth and negotiating i think there are too many issues there's too many problems this has sucked all the oxygen out of the room of our staff in some ways of our council it's going to exhaust our residents we're going to have to deeply involve our residents but i believe that um this is not who we are as a as a community and i think we really need to see think seriously about this rfp now we have options we have a number of options we could we could motion just to terminate the rfp and open a new one that doesn't have housing and it is broader in its scope so we can look at other options other opportunity costs we could vote to go forth and negotiate but but get a resolution of the sky harbor issues at first we could move to renegotiate to negotiate the rp but say you know again we're not interested in residential so you know i ask you and we're going to have a conversation everybody's going to obviously get a chance to speak and say what they think but i do think we have to consider the housing element which was not brought to our attention very early on and now we're faced with this issue and we could go to a lot of effort and then the lawsuit will stop us from progressing and we'll be years into this before we put shovels into the ground is that what we really want don't we want to get businesses and don't we want to get properties on the tax rolls that can see immediate influx into our general fund are we going to be stuck and mirrored in lawsuits as we fight all of this out so i think we need to think really seriously tonight we don't have to just go forth and negotiate we should think about that housing element because it's it to me it's very crucial that we resolve that before we get into deeper discussions and i thank you thank you councilmember qb uh i got a quick comment on when i go to councilmember navarro so just a quick thing regarding the the length of time with the process because i've seen a lot of conversation about that in the public and i just want to say one of the reasons why it took so long i've been mayor now for almost two years but one of the reasons why it took so long was because our staff doesn't do deals like this every day when it comes to professional sports teams with entertainment districts and all of the corresponding retail uh mixed with residential and one of the things i really appreciate our staff is they bring a tremendous amount of expertise to the table each and every day and they're really the true unsung heroes of the city we get to sit up here and make decisions but they're the ones who keep this place running in this situation they made a decision that they were going to go out and seek additional people who were consultants and folks who have done this kind of work before because they recognize while we have a lot of expertise in our staff we frankly need to seek some people on the outside who can help kind of supplement some of the knowledge that we already have that process takes time and i would much rather when we're talking about a project of this magnitude that the staff takes their time to really thoroughly vet this and get opinions from outside experts as opposed to rushing something just to make it look like it's being more transparent i don't want them to come forward with something in six weeks if they can't really do a thorough job and give me a very sound solid recommendation and i think that's exactly what our staff has done and i feel it's very important to state that because of all the comments i've heard from many people in the community talking about lack of transparency when the reality is our staff is doing their due diligence that's what we ask them to do and that's frankly what your tax dollars pay for is for them to actually study these things to be experts to bring in help when they actually need it to help supplement the knowledge they already have and provide recommendations that the council can actually hang our hat on so i appreciate all of their work i mean it's been it's been a huge haul i agree with councilmember cubie it's been a lot of time and it's been a very heavy lift but i just have to say first and foremost i appreciate all of you i'm looking at our economic development team i'm looking at our finance team and i know so many other folks it was a huge cross-departmental effort to ensure that we could actually get to the place that we're at today secondly just saying before at before two i i have plenty of questions about this and i've talked about that before i mean i'm i you know can can talk about you know i remember you know javier and i have only had one in-person meeting before probably about 10 months or so ago because due to the blackout period when the rfp is out as we all talked about here council members aren't allowed to have interaction with the team that's responding at that point we can talk to our staff uh we can talk to other people but we can't talk to them so we haven't talked in nearly a year and the reality is i remember when xavier and i would talk and i would i was peppering him with a number of questions he knew i had concerns and i still have some concerns and i have some questions but that's actually the fundamental reason why i want this to go forward the reality is those questions i feel can be answered that is why people enter negotiations it's to have conversations about some of the finer points of the details and the particulars of this deal and you come to a place where either you vote for the final project or you don't you get to a development agreement or you don't i don't know if i'm going to vote for this project at the end of the day i haven't seen all of it yet there was a lot of information put out there tonight some of it which i've just seen for the first time and so the reality is i need time just like i'm sure people sitting in the audience and people watching at home do as well to process all of this information and see exactly where they stand as it relates to a very big potentially game-changing project here in the city of tempe but that's precisely why you go forward to negotiate so you can actually figure out if this is indeed where we want to go as a city and where our residents want us to go and going back to the whole question about about uh the transparency issue when people talk about this conversation happening in executive session or in private meetings or in staff conversations that has how it's been up to this point but we've been here sitting here since two o'clock for nearly eight hours for the purpose of actually bringing this entire process into the light and the beauty of it is now if we actually go forward and award the rfp i've already had long long-time community members have conversations with me and say i would actually love to have the coyotes organization come up to a neighborhood meeting in my part of the city so we can actually ask them questions and tell them exactly what we'd like to see for them to be good partners in the city of tempe even more specifically in their particular neighborhood because talking about why how long it's been talked about behind closed doors doesn't mean we should try to short-circuit a a further community process i think that's exactly what needs to happen going forward and i would not want to deny our residents the opportunity to frankly tell me exactly how they feel whether it be pro recon on this deal this is tremendously important to our residents and i think they deserve an opportunity to really weigh in on this in a very thoughtful way the last thing i will say on this too is just that and it's really it's more of an anecdote about my father you know when i when i used to ask my father questions when i first got into the professional world in my early twenties i i would always ask him about you know what should i do and i don't know if i should do this deal or two and my father's very simple advice at all times was corey it never hurts to talk what's the harm you have a conversation with someone you may get to an agreement you may not but what did you really lose you had a conversation and that's all we're voting on tonight is the purpose of actually continuing negotiations and having a conversation and i don't see anything wrong with that so i'll be supporting this mayor um i was going to go off on a little tangent on this whole thing but i think he did a great job in summoning it up um and at the end of the day uh i think it was as simple as one of the members that came up here one of the gentlemen that came up here and said so you talk about it it works out it works out if it doesn't it doesn't and that's where we're at i make a motion to approve to go forward okay it's been like when conversation happens after the first episode so motioned by councilmember davar seconded by vice mayor keating comments now uh councilmember garland and then i get to go back to council cubie well no that's not that's how robert thrills works the first the second and then we go to comments all right so um thank you i just want to make sure i got my chance to get my comments in there so you know i just want to say first uh thank you really want to thank all the fans who came it's absolutely amazing that you guys got here at two and you're still here it's incredible you guys are great fans and and you know the coyotes team i have no issues with the coyotes team itself um and i also want to thank our staff there's an awful lot of work and i had questions up until literally the last like half hour before we got up i would say probably 20 minutes maria bugging you again so i just want to say thank you to our staff also and our council members you know what the i at the end of the day up here we're all on the same team so even if we don't agree on all these um um issues and points we are we're up here trying to do all of us are trying to do what's best for the city of tempe and i think that's really important for all of us to remember that it's not a negative on somebody it's just a positive way of looking trying to look at what we can do for our city for me based on glendale's experience with the organization that set up some red flags for me my my issue one of the things that i think mayor giuliano was saying earlier today was it's about partnerships and i think that's really important to me it's a 30-year partnership that i want to feel 100 comfortable about and i'm not sure that i'm there i know i'm not there i'm not even really close to being there feeling that this is the best partnership for the city of tempe i'm not convinced that giving a 30-year abatement that's for the arena headquarters practice facility and music venue um and selling some of our last acreage that the temp city of tempe owns is the best long-term financial interest best for our long-time term financial interest for our future um you know the 30 year tax abatement means that we don't get that those funds going into our general fund that's going to help us you know take care of all of the uses that the um that the fans and the coyotes will be using and and i'm not very comfortable with that and i i have a map and i didn't think lauren qb got her map up there her stuff up there but i passed it out to our council members i know you guys can't see it it's really far away but it's something that you can get on our gis can you put it up there what work what this map is it's a map of the city of tempe and it's a map of that what the city owns and i wanted you guys to be able to to see it because what's really important here is that we think about if you look at this map the red part is what the city of tempe owns so if you look at this if you scratch off the um the parks if you scratch off the golf courses the preserve what you have left is a small um corner up there where the coyotes are the property they're looking at which is the 46 acres the little tiny red dots you see all sprinkled around those are the parks that we have that are attached to our schools so for me what's really important about looking at this deal is that this is our last bulk of land that the city of tempe owns we are a land locked city this is it this is we have to be thinking about when we're making these decisions for this property is it the right fit is it exactly a hundred percent what we want there because we can't go back once we have made the decision to sell this last bulk of land that we have literally you look at the whole entire map it's scary that's it so i i want to be a hundred percent sure this is that this is exactly what the use is it's the right thing for our city that's the right thing for the neighbors that live around there the traffic that it's going to cause the i mean i've sat i've been to a coyotes game i've seen the parking lot afterwards i mean i i just don't know if that's what i want for our city you know we have to think about this also is let's not forget that uh that a project this size puts a significant burden on our infrastructure and the operations of the city having the coyotes in tempe benefits the valley and the state but the complete cost burden is is on the city of tempe it's a burden that we will carry alone so i think that's another thing that we got to be thinking about um and again i want i like i know everybody else here on council wants our residents to be able to take part in this process we all believe in transparency we all know how important that is every single one of us for me i am not comfortable supporting this rfp and it starts from the beginning it's not even has anything to do with the team it starts from the beginning i'm uncomfortable with the narrow rfp that we sent out i think with that narrow rfp we hooked we could only hit one hook one fish and we got one fish and now we're trying to find ways to make sure that that oh skip things now i'll say okay like a square peg into a round hole we're trying to make it work and if it's not exactly 100 what we want i'm not comfortable moving forward with that you know i would like to see us maybe because we have so much resident response that maybe we work with our residents in advance and say you know let's start a new rfp let's make it broader let's do something a little different let's talk to our residents let's ask them exactly what they want and will this be able to um touch every single person in our city it making it equitable for everybody across the board you know big concerts a lot of people can't go to concerts a lot of people don't like hockey but we're going to be paying for it a lot of people don't like concerts they don't go concerts but all of those things that we are going to be paying for so i was thinking you know we could create a an rfp that's a little bit more broad that really touches all of our residents um you know in any negotiation it's important to know what's the best alternative to the deal that is on the table and and i honestly believe that our best alternative is to slow down with this specific rfp i know that it's not slow for the ones who've been on council for a long time this has been going on forever and i apologize um but i i think it's to hold on to this land i think it's i think it's important for us i think we should look at holding on to this land sending out another rfp and just please be sure that this is exactly what we want to do with the last land that we have and again i would love to have the coyotes in the southeast valley truly i would i mean it was a long drive when i went out there for the hockey game i'd love to see him in the southeast valley and it might be the right fit for one of our neighbors who are not landlocked who have more land than we have but i don't think it's the right fit for tempe especially again when we have just that last block of land that's left up there so you know i will not be supporting this rfp again not because of you it's because i think that we that we i messed up at the beginning when we got this rfp put together and i would like to see a broader rfp sent out um that's the only way that i can be or maybe we can be confident that we're doing the right thing for tempe um you know it wouldn't be wise to go forward for me so again that's um i just think it's really important that we think about the last bit of land the last bit that we have for the city of tempe and i think we really need to be thinking about that thank you mayor thank you councilman garland appreciate it okay so we have a motion on the table from uh councilmember navarro at a second by vice mayor keating any further comments or questions before we go mr mayor yes councilman could i offer an amendment or can we discuss the amendment maybe we have to do a knee session only if they agreed since it's their motion so i have a motion on the table we have a second we're ready to go if it doesn't fly you can have your amendment i understand so but i still there's still discussion you can fill up us through this whole thing all night long if you want to now let's do this i mean count if you can make it i think a good you know i think a discussion is important we we have been here a long time but this is a pretty existential decision as councilmember garland made and so i actually don't appreciate you saying that my discussion and concern is a filibuster go for it thank you joel thank you councilmember navarro yeah i just um you know given them all that we heard from the airport tonight i just think we need to consider and maybe we do need to go to e-session to properly consider the ramifications of what we've heard in the past few days and weeks and you know credit to phoenix aviation they've been very transparent they've been putting everything online so it's the opportunity to read and re-read and i think we need to consider that the housing element of this and and i would want to see that the housing element be removed from the from the rfp obviously the people who made the motion and seconded don't want to see that they want to vote on it and it's my opportunity to talk about it but i think we're making a mistake and we're gonna just see the next couple years or year um entangled in this mess granting the rfp doesn't mean we're approving housing right yeah that's no that's that's that's accurate no i mean voting to award the rfp doesn't mean that we're actually approving the housing because there isn't any development agreement at this point we're really just we're just voting to to go forward with negotiations and as we talked about before things can obviously change as the conversations keep going uh many times the offer you see right now is probably not at all the same offer you're gonna see by the time we actually come back to vote at an actual development agreement it's going to lark it's going to probably look i don't want to say very different but i'm sure there's going to be some very different elements and i think we need to have that conversation but with that said um there's a motion on the floor from uh councilman navarro the second by vice mayor keating uh any for any last comments where we go ahead and vote here all right hearing none please vote let's see this screen can i do it yeah you can do voice uh public counselor adams aye and councilmember qb no okay and that vote passes five to two with council member garland and councilmember qb voting nay with that said that brings us to the end of our meeting we are adjourned at 106 pm thank you so much everyone really appreciate it